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Then buy the other device that's just as good as the iP . . . oh wait.

LOL, so buy the other device anyway, with all the "choice" you want. And then go right back to Apple.

I actually went to the other choices and found it more robust, as I rather use manage my music without using itunes(I have songbird installed on all my machines), and prefer a sound quality that is not average, but very good, after all this is technically an mp3 player first.


2.0 does look promising as it adds a few nice features, to keep the market on its toes.
 
Yeah and your Nokia N73 phone required power generator to take pictures and so bulky you need a purse to carry around. I am so surprised when people pin the drawbacks of any phone on camera! Phone is not a professional camera - there is no need for 5 mp Carl Zeiss optics - it is battery drainer show off that just adds a cost to the phone.

+1.. i remember being able to use my nokia 6300 for video.. it was rubbish! and only lasted about 2 hours on doing so! in fact the battery only lasted marginally more than the iphone just in general usage! this was a non-smartphone!..so in my book thats pretty lame!

PTP
 
Good thing the HTC HD2 puts all the Windows Mobile hate to shame. Its proof that an effective UI overlay and a 1GHz SnapDragon can compensate for the current WM shortcomings. HTC HD2 is going to be the best phone on the market, with or without WM.

+1000000

I'm highly interested in looking hard at this bad boy after 2.5 years of iPhone... I guess it's finally just gotten a bit stale
 
That reminds me of a comment a Playstation fanboy once said, that if it wasn't for Sony video games system wouldn't have DVDs. Yes, as if it wouldn't have happened. If you really think about it, it's an incredibly dumb comment.

I don't see how that is relevant since there was a few cd/dvd based system before the PSOne, like the Sega CD addon to Genesis, the 3D0 system and to some extent computer games. DVD was more of a natural progression. A little different than the case mentioned here.
 
One ****ing software update by Apple and they'll own Android. You forgot, Apple built the iphone from the ground up. From hardware(most) to software. They know their phone. So stop talking beyond your pay grade and getting excited because some new piece of a** strolled into town. Apple ain't nothing to mess with.

See, Android is a one size fits all like Windows. However, Apple and their tech is under one umbrella. Keep that in mind. They know the limits of what they can do and the resources they are working with. So stop, I'm very earnest, stop thinking cause Android go all bada** up in that video Apple is about to take a tumble. The iphone has yet to unleash its power and when it does, you'll be left in awe!
 
not too bad but....
sorry, this is still no iphone killer...

the UI still isnt as nice and smooth as iphone os. If this is verizon/droids trick up their sleeve, sounds like they are still gonna fail.
 
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McBeats said:
not too bad but....
sorry, this is still no iphone killer...

the UI still isnt as nice and smooth as iphone os. If this is verizon/droids trick up their sleeve, sounds like they are still gonna fail.

Which Android phones have you used for any length of time? How did you get to test Android 2.0?
 
Well said. I've posted quite a bit on this point in the wake of Droid's ad campaign. Many technologically savvy users (including a lot of MR readers) see the vast choice and customization available to android as a big plus. To many consumers, it's a profound minus.

With the iphone, you know what you're getting. There are 2 choices to make - 3G vs. 3GS and (if you choose 3GS) 16 GB vs. 32. These are easy choices to understand (3GS = more speed; 32 GB = more capacity), and frankly, your user experience won't be that vastly different regardless.

Not only do you know what you're getting, you know how it will work, and that's well. The same company designed the hardware and the software. It integrates with itunes, just like your ipod. If you're ever confused about where you are in the iphone OS, there's only one button to push, and it will get you back home.

Android is not like that. There are different models, different manufacturers, different flavors of android. These all run differently and have different capabilities. You have tons of options - and tons of ways to get lost, in both purchasing and use, if you don't know what you're doing.

You do have a valid point here about choice. But, I think you neglect the fact many users choose a carrier first then a phone if they are not content with the carrier. A user may go with the carrier with either the best price, best reception or combo of both. Then from there they will choose an Android phone if they are looking at one. Once you choose the carrier your choice(or are on their current carrier and looking at a new phone), looking at an Android devices become a bit more simplified. It then comes down to, what can I afford, do I need/want a keyboard, and which company(Samsung, HTC, or Motorola) do I like more/offers a better phone for my personal needs.
Or am I wrong here? Please go ahead & correct me if I am wrong.
 
It looks like Linux

I never saw this in person but seeing this video makes me realize that they still can't get rid of that Linux "geek" look.
 
I'm excited for the Motorola Droid and will purchase one immediately. To me, Android is the perfect combination of all of the smartphone platforms I have used and the hardware is very nice.
 
One ****ing software update by Apple and they'll own Android. You forgot, Apple built the iphone from the ground up. From hardware(most) to software. They know their phone. So stop talking beyond your pay grade and getting excited because some new piece of a** strolled into town. Apple ain't nothing to mess with.

See, Android is a one size fits all like Windows. However, Apple and their tech is under one umbrella. Keep that in mind. They know the limits of what they can do and the resources they are working with. So stop, I'm very earnest, stop thinking cause Android go all bada** up in that video Apple is about to take a tumble. The iphone has yet to unleash its power and when it does, you'll be left in awe!

What the heck was that?
 
I don't see how that is relevant since there was a few cd/dvd based system before the PSOne, like the Sega CD addon to Genesis, the 3D0 system and to some extent computer games. DVD was more of a natural progression. A little different than the case mentioned here.

I meant that for me, the comment before made me think of the comment that Playstation fanboy said, because he's such a fan boy that he it messes with his logic. He was acting as if without Sony we would be playing games on CDs today, the way some even on this thread said that if it weren't for Apple we would be on Dos.
 
+1000000

I'm highly interested in looking hard at this bad boy after 2.5 years of iPhone... I guess it's finally just gotten a bit stale

so far im really impressed with the HTC HD2, I think it is truly the first real piece of competition for the iPhone. It looks great, and has great specs!
 
Do you REALLY think Verizon is any better than AT&T?

You'll have to forgive me. I'm not sure if I'm following you here. I was talking about Android v. iPhone OS. I'm not sure how AT&T and Verizon played a role in my comment.
 
Goodbye iPhone. Hello Android! :)

Well, for me, the droid is the only one I can choose, as Verizon is the only one with the coverage for my area.

If Apple wants to become number one, all it has to do is get on Verizon to get my money. Apple will never be number one, on a number two carrier.
 
One ****ing software update by Apple and they'll own Android. You forgot, Apple built the iphone from the ground up. From hardware(most) to software. They know their phone. So stop talking beyond your pay grade and getting excited because some new piece of a** strolled into town. Apple ain't nothing to mess with.

See, Android is a one size fits all like Windows. However, Apple and their tech is under one umbrella. Keep that in mind. They know the limits of what they can do and the resources they are working with. So stop, I'm very earnest, stop thinking cause Android go all bada** up in that video Apple is about to take a tumble. The iphone has yet to unleash its power and when it does, you'll be left in awe!

ROFL funny post. Would read again!

It reads like the Emperor telling Luke Skywalker how powerful the Death Star will be when it's fully operational.
 
Do you REALLY think Verizon is any better than AT&T?

Verizon is a ******** better than AT&T if you live in the +90% of the USA that Verizon covers and AT&T don't.

Sure AT&T has a sprinkling of towers in Lincoln NE, some spotty coverage along the interstate, and another sprinkling of towers in Omaha. For my business I need bars through out the state. After all, it's supposed to be a MOBILE device, and with AT&T I can't even count on 3G coverage inside the two major cities, while counting on NO coverage once I leave the metros.

However, one needs to cringe at the thought of how badly Verizon will screw you over costwise if you really want to use all the Droid features.
 
However, one needs to cringe at the thought of how badly Verizon will screw you over costwise if you really want to use all the Droid features.

I hear total cost in the end(for service that is) is the same when comparing Verizon to AT&T, with minutes and data limit being the same.
 
Comparing comparables

I apologise for responding to your comments as I did seeing as you were mainly focusing on mobile handets. :eek:

I agree that using the same old Quallcomm MSM7200 chipset has left Android lacking against things like the 3Gs but things are thankfully changing as more handset manufacturers are getting involved.

For crying out loud, let's stick to comparables, not mixing actual shipping products to dreams and FUD-gas. As of today the Android devices are kind of lame compared to the iPhone. Tomorrow there really is no way to say, however, it is instructive to observe and remember that the most accurate basic forecast for tomorrow's weather can be obtained by saying it will be the same as today's.

Personally, Google is getting sufficiently big, dominant and overbearing that I don't really care which mega-company runs the show, but Apple's the only one of the two that has any track record in consumer electronics.
 
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SandynJosh said:
Wait, so it is an eclair? they named their software after a brown and tan pastry? and used that as the logo as well? Oh brother...

Don't sweat it, by the time they go gold it will be a Hostess Cupcake.

Cupcake has been and gone my friend.
 
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bobby990 said:
I apologise for responding to your comments as I did seeing as you were mainly focusing on mobile handets. :eek:

I agree that using the same old Quallcomm MSM7200 chipset has left Android lacking against things like the 3Gs but things are thankfully changing as more handset manufacturers are getting involved.

For crying out loud, let's stick to comparables, not mixing actual shipping products to dreams and FUD-gas. As of today the Android devices are kind of lame compared to the iPhone. Tomorrow there really is no way to say, however, it is instructive to observe and remember that the most accurate basic forecast for tomorrow's weather can be obtained by saying it will be the same as today's.

Personally, Google is getting sufficiently big, dominant and overbearing that I don't really care which mega-company runs the show, but Apple's the only one of the two that has any track record in consumer electronics.

Does that "dreams and fudgas" thing apply to the people posting what the next iPhone is going to be specification wise?

Those benchmark figures from engadget were from the actual devices so how is that "dreams and fudgas"?
 
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