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The first ever Android device came out in 2008, iphone 2007. Let's take a look at who really copied who based on your list.
- Notification center; my flip phones had the genesis of this. Verdict Android copied.
- Split view; was doing this in windows 3.1. Verdict Android copied.
- Photo edit within Gallery. Doing this in windows prior to 2007.
- Hey Siri. Don't know exactly what you mean here, but the first digital assistant was unveiled in 1962. Verdict Android copied.
- Wireless charging. Existing long before it existed in phones. Verdict Android copied.
- Face Id. True android had it first, but it's limited and can't do financial transaction authentication.
- Apple Health. Fitbit existed before Android. Any health related claims as to copying from Android would mean android copied first.
- App Videos in the app store. Really?
- Portrait mode or computational photography. Started in the 1990s. Any claims as to apple copying would mean android copied as well.
- Big screen phones. I didn't know a phone size could be copied, just like I didn't know the size of a computer monitor could be copied.
- Apple Pencil. The first stylus came out in the late 1950s. Any claim as to copying Android would mean Android copied first.
- OLED. OLED existed long before it's use in phones. Any claim in copying android would mean Android copied first.
- NFC was patented in 1983 and associated with RFID. Any claim in copying android would mean Android copied first.
- Apple Watch. The Pulsar debuted in 1972. Any claim in copying android would mean Android copied first.
- Fingerprint sensor. https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-first-phone-to-have-a-fingerprint-scanner. This predated android. Any claim in copying android would mean Android copied first.
- Bluetooth earphones. Available way before android.
- Water resistance. I had watches that were water resistant/proof before cell phones. Any claim....
- Notch. You have some proof Apple copied the "notch" from Android.
- Lack of headphone jack (moto z). Yes sir. You are spot on with that. I concede Apple copied the lack of headphone jack on Moto Z.
As for the remainder of the list, most of these technologies existed prior to Android and Apple. But one thing is clear, using your logic, since the iphone 1 had wifi and bluetooth, and now every Android device has wifi and bluetooth, there is a whole lot of copying going on with respect to that.
We are talking about Android vs iOS and who borrowed from who, adding a 20 year old computer OS in the conversation to compare won't make you look smarter, at all. Try again.The first ever Android device came out in 2008, iphone 2007. Let's take a look at who really copied who based on your list.
- Notification center; my flip phones had the genesis of this. Verdict Android copied.
- Split view; was doing this in windows 3.1. Verdict Android copied.
- Photo edit within Gallery. Doing this in windows prior to 2007.
- Hey Siri. Don't know exactly what you mean here, but the first digital assistant was unveiled in 1962. Verdict Android copied.
- Wireless charging. Existing long before it existed in phones. Verdict Android copied.
- Face Id. True android had it first, but it's limited and can't do financial transaction authentication.
- Apple Health. Fitbit existed before Android. Any health related claims as to copying from Android would mean android copied first.
- App Videos in the app store. Really?
- Portrait mode or computational photography. Started in the 1990s. Any claims as to apple copying would mean android copied as well.
- Big screen phones. I didn't know a phone size could be copied, just like I didn't know the size of a computer monitor could be copied.
- Apple Pencil. The first stylus came out in the late 1950s. Any claim as to copying Android would mean Android copied first.
- OLED. OLED existed long before it's use in phones. Any claim in copying android would mean Android copied first.
- NFC was patented in 1983 and associated with RFID. Any claim in copying android would mean Android copied first.
- Apple Watch. The Pulsar debuted in 1972. Any claim in copying android would mean Android copied first.
- Fingerprint sensor. https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-first-phone-to-have-a-fingerprint-scanner. This predated android. Any claim in copying android would mean Android copied first.
- Bluetooth earphones. Available way before android.
- Water resistance. I had watches that were water resistant/proof before cell phones. Any claim....
- Notch. You have some proof Apple copied the "notch" from Android.
- Lack of headphone jack (moto z). Yes sir. You are spot on with that. I concede Apple copied the lack of headphone jack on Moto Z.
As for the remainder of the list, most of these technologies existed prior to Android and Apple. But one thing is clear, using your logic, since the iphone 1 had wifi and bluetooth, and now every Android device has wifi and bluetooth, there is a whole lot of copying going on with respect to that.
Your list is nonsense and I just proved it. The origin of these technologies are easily available on Wikipedia, and you can see who really copied who, irrespective of the age of the computer system. A lot of stuff in android was "borrowed" from windows and other places.
Throwing ad-homs around doesn't make your point any more valid, in fact it invalidates your point.
Why is my list nonsense? Because it doesn't appeal to you? My list just proved my point and it's there for everyone to see. Things that every iPhone user uses on a daily basis were borrowed from Android which is alright, it's not alright though to keep blindly defending Apple like a cult. Also also remind you that we are talking Android vs iOS not Wikipedia, Windows, or whatever vs iOS/Android. Stay on topic.
It's nonsense because your entire premise is how Apple have copied from Android. As @I7guy just showed you, this entire industry is built on copying features, yet you seem to think only Apple does it. That makes your extreme bias very horribly obvious.
I know the entire industry moves by copying features, even though you were the one who said to list everything that Apple copied from Android which was what I did. Truth hurts?
You have hit the nail on the head. My iPhone has served me well, why should I consider changing to an Android if I can continue to buy something I am familiar with? In my mind I shouldn't and won't.
Bottom line is whether copied from other industries or not Android OEM implemented these functions (multi-task, multi window, notification shade, folder) FIRST in mobile phone. Apple responded by following android just means apple is the laggard.
And you're wrong again. Touch Id first came out in a Windows phone. Stylus also came from devices such as Windows Mobile and Palm before that (heck, even Apple's newton comes into play there).
MultiTouch was first out in devices such as the LG Prada II - which was out LONG before the first Android - so no, Android OEM (whatever that is) did not implement that either. Just because your memory starts at Android doesn't mean that they where first.
There's many features which came out in other phones first that Android took then Apple. Equally there's ideas hat Android devices have taken from Apple - Apple Contactless Pay at stores, for example. Tablets are another example. Force touch was first available on the Apple Watch before Huawei decided to use it. Pinch to zoom was on Apple before Android as well - a feature so base, so ubiquitous it's hard to imagine a device today without it.
And it's not even Android - Android for example didn't have a stylus - that's a Samsung creation on Android. Yet y'all are calling it Android.
When you lot going to get off your high horse and start realizing this happens everywhere - and that this is not just Apple, Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC and more have ALL taken design cues, software features, heck even entire look and feel from each other AND Apple. Yet here you are bemoaning that it's just Apple. Your bias is overwhelming here.
And rather than Apple being a laggard, I'd argue that Apple doesn't leap into implementing each snazzy new feature that and Android manufacturer creates, or Google implements in it's OS. Rather they bide their time, cherry picking the ones that work, ignoring the ones that don't.
Touch Id for example - they waited until they had a viable solution before implementing it. Granted it took a cycle to perfect it, but since then it's always been seen at the top of it's game. Face Id is another one - Samsung may have been first, but they still treat is as too insecure to use for contactless payments. Apple may have been late, but their implementation is still ahead of Samsungs.
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Him - When's the last time a goddess was Male? This should not surprise me given all your other posts show a similar total lack of attention to detail.
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I also told you to list the things that Android copied from Apple (of which there are many). You failed to do that ergo showing your obvious bias. I meanwhile many posts ago listed many such items that were on an Android device before Apple. That's because I feel secure in my choice of device, you would appear to be insecure, hence your apparent need to defend it to the hills.
You should take a cue from your post. Get off your high horse. Apple does copy and follow others like everyone else.
There is nothing spectacular about iPhone X except for its spectacular price.
This playground back and forth over who came out with what feature first is ridiculous. If any of you truly believed that specious argument, you would be buying a different phone on a regular basis, just because company X came out with this supposed new feature first. Quit arguing over a meaningless point, just to try and win some internet forum points. It makes grown adults look like 5-year-olds.
The loyalty article is meaningless. What matters, is buying a phone that meets your needs and wants regardless of whether or not it is iOS or Android.
If you feel you have to justify your purchase to someone else on the forum because you want to feel like you have the inside knowledge on what is popular on the playground, you need to grow up. You don't have to agree with the reasons why a stranger (you don't know and don't care about) prefers Android over iOS or iOS over Android. What you do need to do, is stop parading your personal and subject opinion as undeniable fact.
The current arguing is akin to one kid telling another kid that his dad can is better than the other dad, and can beat him up any day of the week.
Like it or not, that is all this thread with its meaningless article has accomplished, from grown adults arguing like kids.
The loyalty article is meaningless. What matters, is buying a phone that meets your needs and wants regardless of whether or not it is iOS or Android.
If you feel you have to justify your purchase to someone else on the forum because you want to feel like you have the inside knowledge on what is popular on the playground, you need to grow up. You don't have to agree with the reasons why a stranger (you don't know and don't care about) prefers Android over iOS or iOS over Android. What you do need to do, is stop parading your personal and subject opinion as undeniable fact.
The current arguing is akin to one kid telling another kid that his dad can is better than the other dad, and can beat him up any day of the week.
Like it or not, that is all this thread with its meaningless article has accomplished, from grown adults arguing like kids.
Where did I say that they didn't. I said it happens everywhere. Apple copies Samsung who copy Apple who copy LG who copy Motoroloa who...
Yet some people seem to think this is unique to Apple. It's not. I've said it before and I'll say it one last time. It's an industry thing. Period. Everyone copies everyone else. Sometimes the first to market is better, sometimes it's the ones who came later.
I've never said here that Apple are special - in fact I even admitted that they were second or even third in line with many features. However, it's the same on the other side of the fence. Difference is Apple is one company, there are plenty of Android manufacturers which makes the chances they'll come up with an idea before Apple higher than the other way round. So what?
Does this mean Apple are bad devices? No, not in the slightest. Yet folk like you feel that they are for no other reason than 'Apple'.
Apple isn't a bad device at all, and I agree with some of your thoughts. The issue is not unique to Apple. It's just people keep throwing fuel in to the fire to provoke ongoing bickering because there is some popcorn liking going on here.
Apple will always have more of the spotlight on them than other companies due to their more devout user base.
Among my Apple peers, we're split into 3 groups:
1. Some love Apple because it's Apple.
2. Some are fed up with Apple because it doesn't work as good for them as it used to.
3. Some loathe Apple because it's Apple. Historically, this has always been the case even before this forum came into existence.
Yes, I did know. Apple's iPhone, regardless of screen size, RAM or storage, is considered one phone, one operating system. Apple makes a single high-end phone, the iPhone, which happens to come at various prices points.
Just like Ford makes the Mustang, that comes with a 4, 6 or 8 cylinder engine and multitudes of feature combinations. But it's still a Mustang. When comparing sports cars, nobody compares the Camaro, the 4-cylinder Mustang and the 8-cylinder Mustang. They compare the Camaro, Mustang and Corvette.
Android is simply the free OS that OEMs put on thousands upon thousands of phones that have no relation to one another. If you can't see that, then there's no point in carrying on a conversation with you about it.
If you do accept that, then the only comparable phone to the iPhone (any iPhone) is the high-end Galaxy Note from nearly 2 years ago, and the recently announced Galaxy S9.
So now if you run those surveys again with ONLY those models, I think you'll find different results.
And in the end, nobody truly cares what you, I or anyone else uses as their smartphone. So the whole argument is pointless.
I bought a new shiny iPhone 6s Plus from Apple store last fall for less than latest iPhone.
Apple sells them because there is demand for them.
You introduced the term "low-class" into the conversation. I didn't.
Therefore I don't have to backpedal on anything.
My point was... people around the world buy $100 phones all day long. And those phones typically run Android.
It's the price that attracts them... not necessarily the platform.
The fact that you found a coupon for a $100 iPhone SE is irrelevant to what I was talking about.
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Perhaps one day, one of the dozen of messaging apps they’ve released so far will.
Or else they’ll release another dozen and try again.
[doublepost=1520832213][/doublepost]Android fans go around evangelizing for Google or Samsung and constantly bash Apple and the iPhone on Apple-related forums and discussions. You’ll never see an Apple fan go around to Android forums and do the same.
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Such as? Let me guess... rounded corners?
Hmmm let’s see:
Device Biometrics
User-controlled permissions
Full device backup and restore
Smooth scrolling
No carrier interference or bloatware
Messaging system outside of SMS
Full device encryption
Find my iPhone
Activation lock
64-bit OS
Oh... and wait... there’s also that little minor fact that they also released the very first multitouch smartphoneever, for which all Android phones that followed imitated. Or else the first Android would’ve been a BlackBerry clone.
Just to name a few odd the top of my head.
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People like you and countless others who shall remain nameless come to this forum and spend hours evangelizing for Samsung and Google and bash Apple at every discussion and we are the cultists?
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Ironic that since Android 6, Google is taking cues from iOS by suspending services and apps in the background for performance and battery-saving reasons (doze and app standby). Guess iOS got it right, huh?
Oh that’s one more thing to add to iOS “firsts”.
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LOL, considering the whole Android OS was a copy of iOS your point is refute.
Considering you have no clue what you are talking about, your "point" is refute. Not sure how something can be a copy, yet offer a more functional "replica", and features the "original", don't even posses. Pretty sure if Android was a copy, they would not be able to distribute the OS abroad.
Why are you arguing about so many hardware features and who copied what when iOS and Android are software? Or are you simply saying that Apple is being compared to several dozen (hundred?) brands of phones?
If you are talking about innovation, a much more apt comparison would be Apple vs. Samsung, or Apple vs. Huawei. The fact that a phone runs iOS or Android is inconsequential to many of the features of the phone. That would be like comparing Windows to OSX and then saying that Windows "invented" GSync. It doesn't make any sense at all.
If you are talking about innovation, a much more apt comparison would be Apple vs. Samsung, or Apple vs. Huawei. The fact that a phone runs iOS or Android is inconsequential to many of the features of the phone. That would be like comparing Windows to OSX and then saying that Windows "invented" GSync. It doesn't make any sense at all.
This isn't even close to true with PAE each process on a 32bit processor can address 4GB of RAM.