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Android Outsells iPhone Globally
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What I'm saying is Android outsell iOS, but the iPhone itself is still the biggest selling phone otu there. Androids figures are made up of over 40 phones, where as iOS's is made of 10% of that figure and only 5% of that figure are on sale now. The iPhone is still the best selling phone. I'm not saying iOS should be available on other phones or Apple should have 40 iPhone to choose from, I'm just saying the facts don't tell the whole truth. Yes Android outsell's iOS but thats not too say that because iOS is being outsold is a bad thing. I find it rather good that they can come so close to the number of sales as to Androids with less availability.
Yes it's really bad according to all the bragging Apple Fanboys do. They're always using Apples sales numbers to prove dominance. They don't care about performance, just the almighty dollar.
Are you in love with the word fanboys? You sure say it a lot. Obsession much??
I don't know, I didn't do the research, I'll re-fraise, Android outsells iPhones but the iPhone is still the best selling phone. Confused?
Who cares, would anyone actually want a world where everyone has an iPhone, competition is healthy, it pushes Apple to come up with more goods. All this info will do is push Apple even futher.
If you put the iPhone vs a specific Android phone, it wins, hard.
If you put the iOS including iPod and iPad vs Android OS it wins.
If you look at sales figures for iPhone 4 included, it wins.
If you skew the results to handcuff iPhone because of it's single carrier situation, you can come up with the thread title.
The point is, apple fans can still brag and boast using sales figures because this is only one comparison of many categories. A comparison we never even used in the past. The boasting we used to do can still be done.
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If you put the iOS including iPod and iPad vs Android OS it wins.
If you look at sales figures for iPhone 4 included, it wins.
If you skew the results to handcuff iPhone because of it's single carrier situation, you can come up with the thread title.
The point is, apple fans can still brag and boast using sales figures because this is only one comparison of many categories. A comparison we never even used in the past. The boasting we used to do can still be done.
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Are you also adding non-phone type Android devices like this Samsung PMP:
or this Philips PMP:
Smartphone marketshare has always been looked at in this way. The iPhone hasn't and won't change that. The comparisons you've listed are perfectly valid, but don't show smartphone OS marketshare, which is the whole point of this metric.
It was quarter 2 before the iPhone 4 release.
And nokia has 50% market share so by that metric, awkward nokias and outdated blackberries are better than iPhone and it's clone army.
So the 4th best phones (nokias) are number 1, the 3rd best phones are 2nd (bb) the android is in third and the most popular is in 4th.
So this backwards metric tells us an insignificant trend which is that most people in the world want no frills phones that advertise dependability over function an style to curb the masses' fear of technology.
So the iPhone is still the best on all accounts and reviews and you can just hold it in your hand to see it's the best. Just look at it. You don't need global stats to tell you that.
In Q3 it will be back to 3rd because the only reason it dropped is because nobody buys phones in the 2nd quarter because they are still under contract from the last Q3 since apple predictably releases it the same month every year for years now.
So again, we can still boast, even for this very stat again in a couple months.
I am always confused by people who think market-share is an indicator of "who is winning".
I wonder what are they winning exactly?
C.
Market share is more about sociological data and tells us more about the market itself rather than being an indicator of which device is winning the popularity war.
Why do you think that marketshare indicates the 'best' device? The 'best' device will be different depending who you are anyway.
To be able to say that you would need a comparison between all the customers on AT&T who have any generation iPhone vs the customers on AT&T who have an Android of any kind.
Lol lol lol...
Let's make that comparison shall we?
Jk, that would be too un-"fair"
Whoever wins the largest smart phone market share dictates industry standards, has the most customers and industry support. Windows won the PC market most customers, most industry support, everyone supports windows standards even Apple uses Intel chips, runs MS Office, Windows. Ipod/itunes won the mp3 market most customers, most industry support (accessories), everyone tries to support itunes software PalmOS syncing itunes, all those Android users asking how to port itunes to their phone. Even though ipod/itunes launched exclusively on Macs, they made a PC version because of the Windows market share. Look at industry leading software with majority market share photoshop, autocad, etc. They have the most customers, their software dictates industry standards.
Market share also means the company can ensure a certain level of comfort while they experiment in established, or new, emerging markets. MS is an excellent example of this. Their windows market share lets them experiment and fail - A LOT. Vista, Zune, Kin. Xbox was a money black hole for years. Market share also lets MS continue to be profitable beyond the tenure of their polarizing CEO, Bill Gates. Id argue that when Jobs first left Apple, Apple could have succeeded without him if they had a majority market share instead of Windows.
Instead, Jobs came back to a declining Apple and instituted the most spectacular and successful company turn around. However, for that success to continue beyond Jobs second tenure, Apple would do better if they had majority market share. I think it will be much more difficult for Apple to maintain their profit margins without Jobs and without a majority market share. An Apple with market share, even without Jobs at the helm, has a much more secure future. Company security matters not only just to share holders, but also customers that have invested their time, their business, their life, into their products.
I'm still not losing sleep over it.
BTW why are there so many Fandroids in Macrumors?
Loosely translated as 'why are there so many people with different opinions on MacRumours?' I'm sure I don't need to explain that one
But they are not winning the profit battle, which is the bottom line for a corporation.
http://gigaom.com/2010/08/17/apple-snags-48-of-mobile-profit-pie/
That's not true at all. Just look around and you can see that isn't happening.
Nokia has by far the largest smartphone market-share. But it is not dictating industry standards. Symbian is open source. But other handset manufacturers will not use it.
Developers are abandoning Nokia's platforms and new ones are moving to the iPhone. Not because iPhone has the largest number of customers. But because iPhone development is profitable. The iPhone has people who are willing and able to spend money on Apps.
Nokia sells an incredible number of phones that are classed as smart-phones. But their profit per phone is declining rapidly. I think it averages at $15 per phone. In comparison, Apple makes more than $200.
If the trend continues in 18months Nokia may well be in a loss-making position. Whereas Apple became the most profitable handset manufacturer last year.
And it is Apple (and profitability) that are sets the standards. With every manufacturer attempting to duplicate the success that Apple has achieved.
Your thesis is completely wrong. It is profits that provide stability and freedom to experiment. Market share without profitability is just embarrassing.
C.