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Re: My Dream Rumor
Nope, Apple is not running a Super Bowl ad this year (Pepsi is the one paying for the iTunes promo kickoff). And if Apple sells OS X for Wintel boxes, kiss Apple goodbye. Apple is a hardware company that uses killer software to move its real cash-cow, the hardware. Think about it. iTunes sells iPods. OS X, iLife, and the Pro Apps sell Macs.
You'll see a two button mouse before you see OS X for CISC comps.
Nope, Apple is not running a Super Bowl ad this year (Pepsi is the one paying for the iTunes promo kickoff). And if Apple sells OS X for Wintel boxes, kiss Apple goodbye. Apple is a hardware company that uses killer software to move its real cash-cow, the hardware. Think about it. iTunes sells iPods. OS X, iLife, and the Pro Apps sell Macs.
You'll see a two button mouse before you see OS X for CISC comps.
Re: Re: My Dream Rumor
They killed project Star Trek in 1993:
http://oshistory.nerisoft.com/startrek.htm
don't think Steve is gonna dig this one out of its grave.....
They killed project Star Trek in 1993:
http://oshistory.nerisoft.com/startrek.htm
don't think Steve is gonna dig this one out of its grave.....
Re: Re: My Dream Rumor
Ha ha ha
<wipe away tears of laughter at the thought of Apple finally doing the right thing with the $70 mouse!>
Ha ha ha
Ha ha ha
<wipe away tears of laughter at the thought of Apple finally doing the right thing with the $70 mouse!>
Ha ha ha
Re: Re: My Dream Rumor
I understand skepticism but if Steve was going to drop a bomb like this do you think he would let out that there was going to be a commerical for this. Do you think that a company that has billions in liquid assests and no real debt couldn't buy a little secrecy for a week or two.
Sony and Toshiba are aligning with IBM to work with the PowerPC and rumor has it that the future X-Box could be powerpc based. So it is really a large leap?
these are rumors, feel free to dream a bit. Apple rarely follows standard business practices and this does not cut into true Mac lovers, rather it opens the door to the people who only care about how much the hardware costs. Hey, you can build your own Mac. Profit on OS is in volume and Steve understands that, if not there would be no iTMS
I am full steam ahead today
I understand skepticism but if Steve was going to drop a bomb like this do you think he would let out that there was going to be a commerical for this. Do you think that a company that has billions in liquid assests and no real debt couldn't buy a little secrecy for a week or two.
Sony and Toshiba are aligning with IBM to work with the PowerPC and rumor has it that the future X-Box could be powerpc based. So it is really a large leap?
these are rumors, feel free to dream a bit. Apple rarely follows standard business practices and this does not cut into true Mac lovers, rather it opens the door to the people who only care about how much the hardware costs. Hey, you can build your own Mac. Profit on OS is in volume and Steve understands that, if not there would be no iTMS
I am full steam ahead today
LET OSX ON x86 DIE ALREADY
This has been settled out of Steve's own lips last year. I dont feel like looking it up because you people should be stupid enough to look it up on your own.
Here's a sum up:
Steve said they have had an internal build (marklar, was it?) of OSX for x86 since OSX has been in existance. It was a back up plan when they were having problems with Motorola getting them faster chips. The second they struck the G5 deal with IBM, it went back into the closet. They will continue to keep it under development, but see no need in the near futre to release it because of their strong relationship with IBM.
OSX on x86 would have been a last-shot ditch effort to keep Apple alive. As it is, they dont need it anymore. IBM is starting to ramp up PPC for the consumer, and in a few years, PPC will overwhelm x86 in terms of speed.
In my industry (CG) many studios (large and small) are beginning to port all of their linux tools over to OSX and are switching to faster G5's. (G5's, with GCC compiling, are faster in rendering in PR Renderman than on any x86 processor) And these are large studios.
I must say Im suprised we havent seen a speed-bumped G5 yet.
This has been settled out of Steve's own lips last year. I dont feel like looking it up because you people should be stupid enough to look it up on your own.
Here's a sum up:
Steve said they have had an internal build (marklar, was it?) of OSX for x86 since OSX has been in existance. It was a back up plan when they were having problems with Motorola getting them faster chips. The second they struck the G5 deal with IBM, it went back into the closet. They will continue to keep it under development, but see no need in the near futre to release it because of their strong relationship with IBM.
OSX on x86 would have been a last-shot ditch effort to keep Apple alive. As it is, they dont need it anymore. IBM is starting to ramp up PPC for the consumer, and in a few years, PPC will overwhelm x86 in terms of speed.
In my industry (CG) many studios (large and small) are beginning to port all of their linux tools over to OSX and are switching to faster G5's. (G5's, with GCC compiling, are faster in rendering in PR Renderman than on any x86 processor) And these are large studios.
I must say Im suprised we havent seen a speed-bumped G5 yet.
Re: Re: My Dream Rumor
I a little harsh don't you think. If you are satisified with the way things are then why write software to try and improve the things that we do. Why write apps to give us our own identity in chats, why woudl you care about how much memory is being used?
Sorry, had to respond. Mac people should be much more optimistic.
I a little harsh don't you think. If you are satisified with the way things are then why write software to try and improve the things that we do. Why write apps to give us our own identity in chats, why woudl you care about how much memory is being used?
Sorry, had to respond. Mac people should be much more optimistic.
Well since I'm a math major and have nothing better to do, lets take a look...
Dual 2ghz G5
Regular Price: $2999
Edu price: $2699
Dev discount price: $2498 (including cost of membership)
So thats $200 right there
PLUS you can save $50,$250, or $400 on displays
$60-$100 on iPods
and other accessories (as long as you buy it all at once)
Considering that the price of the Power Mac alone saves your $200 i'd say go for it. Not to mention with a total cost less, your sales tax should be less too!
Here's my thoughts ...
SJ is sitting around in Cupertino, enjoying the fact that everyone is trying desperately to figure out what he has up his sleeve. He is enjoying all of the hype and publicity. He is patting himself on the back for keeping things under wraps. He is enjoying watchin people (especially those here on the rumor sites) squirm.
Bottom line ...
If you're a real Mac enthusiast and a loyal Mac person, you're not gonna ditch your Mac no matter what SJ does or doesn't do, release or not release, say or not say ...
And for the record ...
SJ KNOWS THIS!!!
So ... in conclusion ... he is gonna do what he's always done ...
He'll release what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants ... and we as loyal Mac people will continue to scoop them up as soon as they are released ... whenever that is ... and whatever they are ...
<just an opinion>
Note: posted this under "New PMacs on or about the 20th" also.
SJ is sitting around in Cupertino, enjoying the fact that everyone is trying desperately to figure out what he has up his sleeve. He is enjoying all of the hype and publicity. He is patting himself on the back for keeping things under wraps. He is enjoying watchin people (especially those here on the rumor sites) squirm.
Bottom line ...
If you're a real Mac enthusiast and a loyal Mac person, you're not gonna ditch your Mac no matter what SJ does or doesn't do, release or not release, say or not say ...
And for the record ...
SJ KNOWS THIS!!!
So ... in conclusion ... he is gonna do what he's always done ...
He'll release what he wants, when he wants, and how he wants ... and we as loyal Mac people will continue to scoop them up as soon as they are released ... whenever that is ... and whatever they are ...
<just an opinion>
Note: posted this under "New PMacs on or about the 20th" also.
damn you...
To RailHead Design with Love:
"You suck ! Get out of my face... "
It's really too bad, I've been waiting for almost a month to get a new G5, and still nothing... Oh well, let's hope for tomorrow ! But I still like you, RailHead !! Probably Apple wanted to piss us all off and it's gonna happen tomorrow...
<cough/>
To RailHead Design with Love:
"You suck ! Get out of my face... "
It's really too bad, I've been waiting for almost a month to get a new G5, and still nothing... Oh well, let's hope for tomorrow !
But I still like you, RailHead !! Probably Apple wanted to piss us all off and it's gonna happen tomorrow... <cough/>
I'm not certain what ADC programs are offered specifically for students, however, you should note that the standard Select membership ($500 annually) does NOT come with any hardware discounts. However, after the first year you can renew your membership and get one hardware discount (so the total "cost" is an initial year of membership and a renewal or $1000 total for the first and second year of membership). You need to be a Premier member ($3500 annually) to get the hardware discounts without a previous year of membership.
But, as I said earlier, perhaps student ADC members get a different deal.
Student discount gives you a one time hardware discount. It is available as soon as you have verified your eligibility. The cost is $99 a year.
bull ****
To be honest, I'm sick of these rumors being incorrect. Apple designing a projector... not! new laptops, we'll see. Something new for the 24th, bull crap! Something happening on the 27th, negative... you give me something that makes sense and i'll give you another chance... but this is strike three... so post things that makes sense and that are from reliable sources like appleinsider... not from some bull **** source like railmyass.
thanks
To be honest, I'm sick of these rumors being incorrect. Apple designing a projector... not! new laptops, we'll see. Something new for the 24th, bull crap! Something happening on the 27th, negative... you give me something that makes sense and i'll give you another chance... but this is strike three... so post things that makes sense and that are from reliable sources like appleinsider... not from some bull **** source like railmyass.
thanks
Re: bull ****
A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.
Unverified information received from another; hearsay.
So to understand you, you are asking for verified rumors? Those would be facts.
Need more happiness here.
What you are asking for is impossible to know until after there is verification or an announment. Rumors are just that. If I may be so bold here is the definition of Rumor
A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.
Unverified information received from another; hearsay.
So to understand you, you are asking for verified rumors? Those would be facts.
Need more happiness here.
Re: bull ****
2) this is a RUMOR site, if you want for sure things log on to MacCentral for news
3) AppleInsider, in my experience is not as reliable as MacRumors, although better than some (MacWhispers, etc)
1) stop swearing, none of us want to have to see it
2) this is a RUMOR site, if you want for sure things log on to MacCentral for news
3) AppleInsider, in my experience is not as reliable as MacRumors, although better than some (MacWhispers, etc)
Re: Re: Re: My Dream Rumor
Mac people are more optimistic when doing something doesn't spell the death of the company to which they are loyal.
Don't kid yourself into thinking that creating Mac OS X for x86 processors is only going to fuel Mac sales. Despite the fact that Mac hardware is superior, 95% of the world doesn't care to spend the extra money to get that extra quality, so the loss in sales of Apple's hardware would more than offset the gain in revenue from Mac OS X. I would even be skeptical if many Wintel people would actually even buy Mac OS X to run on their computer when they've been acquiescent with Windows for so long.
Not only that, but Mac OS X on Macs is extremely reliably precisely because Apple controls the hardware. Releasing it for x86 systems would only be asking for trouble, since the hardware systems are not a constant in the Wintel world, so the reliability of Mac OS X would go down the tubes. And that's not an appearance that Apple would like to have.
So, in short, no, it wasn't really that harsh. It was just reality.
Mac people are more optimistic when doing something doesn't spell the death of the company to which they are loyal.
Don't kid yourself into thinking that creating Mac OS X for x86 processors is only going to fuel Mac sales. Despite the fact that Mac hardware is superior, 95% of the world doesn't care to spend the extra money to get that extra quality, so the loss in sales of Apple's hardware would more than offset the gain in revenue from Mac OS X. I would even be skeptical if many Wintel people would actually even buy Mac OS X to run on their computer when they've been acquiescent with Windows for so long.
Not only that, but Mac OS X on Macs is extremely reliably precisely because Apple controls the hardware. Releasing it for x86 systems would only be asking for trouble, since the hardware systems are not a constant in the Wintel world, so the reliability of Mac OS X would go down the tubes. And that's not an appearance that Apple would like to have.
So, in short, no, it wasn't really that harsh. It was just reality.