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Another Day, Another Rumor...

To be totally honest I haven’t bothered to read this whole thread because to be totally honest it’s too late and I want to go to bed. But before I went to bed I was hoping to have a quick look at macrumors and find that some wonderful new product was launched (or at least an upgrade)

But after my quick scan of this thread I feel a need to add my 2 cents on the windows/ apple debate. I think we can all agree the Steve Jobs is not stupid. I think the reason he introduced the ipod and itunes to windows (apart from the obvious financial success) was to give the rest of the world a taste of life in apple world. And reading articles and talking to people I am convinced that apple has generated more computer sales by selling the ipod on windows than sales it has lost, no one was ever going to by a mac so that the could have an ipod but I believe many will buy a mac because they have an ipod.
 
Re: Has Apple booked commercial time during the superbowl?

Originally posted by rspress
Has Apple booked commercial time during the superbowl?

This would be the date I would expect the 20th anniversary Mac to be released. Since the original Mac was released with a Superbowl commercial it would make sense for the 20th anniversary model to be released on Sunday.
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Originally posted by DaveGee
No they haven't...

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um ...

Not that the world is AWARE of anyway ... :D

Food for thought ...
 
Sheesh _ I can't believe this thread!

I agree with many here that it seems Apple would announce something near the magical date of 1/24/04 to get some free publicity about their products. Media outlets would love to have a story and photo about the 20th Anniversary Mac, and it would have been prominently displayed in Time, etc. But Apple didn't do it. So that makes me wonder - what have they got up their sleeve to make them miss this great opportunity? Maybe a better opportunity, after the Super Bowl. A million song giveaway has got to be a big undertaking, and Apple has got to be sure that the iTunesMusicStore has no problems from Sunday on, so why not keep a lid on things till after that? I've been waiting since last July for a Rev.B PM with Dual 2.6s and a restyled Cinema Display too. I'm not buying a Dell if it doesn't come out this week, but I'm hoping to be blown away by Apple next week. At least I hope Steve is holding some better cards not to toss them in this week.
 
Re: Has Apple booked commercial time during the superbowl?

Originally posted by rspress
Has Apple booked commercial time during the superbowl?

This would be the date I would expect the 20th anniversary Mac to be released. Since the original Mac was released with a Superbowl commercial it would make sense for the 20th anniversary model to be released on Sunday.
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Of course Apple and Pepsi are working togther on this iTunes giveaway thing. Hey, you don't think Steve would do something sneaky like have Pepsi pay for an ad that Apple then used to announce a new product, so that pre-Super Bowl, Apple's name didn't appear in the list of advertisers?

Nah, who would think like that?
 
Re: Re: Not all pros are knee-jerk upgraders

Originally posted by whooleytoo
Ah, but if 2.6GHz G5's come out, they're hardly being targeted at existing G5 owners. (Not very many people about on 6 month machine turnover cycles!!).
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Okay, how about reading the whole thread before responding?

I was responding to a poster who was clearly advocating that current dual 2.0 users upgrade as soon as new models are released. He reasoned that, for most professionals, ANY speed improvement, not matter how small, was worth the price. In other words, he was promoting the 6-month turnover.

Yeeeesh.
 
Hey, I just wanted to say:

"Tomorrow (Wednesday) will be a BIG day for Apple, so get your card balances down."

Or perhaps Thursday or next Tuesday. ;-)

Eventually one of these will be right.

Seriously, I think that should've been a Page 2 rumor!


Apple has done a lot:
1. G5 PMs
2. G5 xserves

But now the big things for Apple now are:
1. Getting the G5s in the PBs. Yeah yeah, I know. But, this is important. This is a big transition like the 601/603/604s to G3s. People hesitate to buy an "older" generation just because no one knows how long they'll be supported.
3. Eventually (within 1-2 years one would hope) low end G5s in the iMac and iBook.

And obviously:
4. Getting the PM G5s to 3Ghz by Fall as they discussed last year

Apple knows the reasons they need to transition the "Power" machines to G5s sooner vs later.
 
We have a winner!

Originally posted by fpnc
Yes, hardly a "peep" from Apple about the 20th anniversary. This could be very bad news (or lack thereof). I wonder, perhaps Steve Jobs is acting on his one-time advice to "milk the Macintosh for everything its worth" while Apple moved on to the next big thing. Yes, Steve actually said that several years ago at a WWDC conference (before he returned as Apple CEO).

Could Apple's "next big thing" be the iPod and similar MS Windows compatible products? Remember, it was only a few weeks ago that some Apple higher-up (VP?) said that music had become the major focus at Apple (well, perhaps the statement was "a" principal focus rather than "the"). Combine that with the lack of a 20th anniversary announcement and the fact that Apple received more revenue last quarter from the iPod than it did for the iMac and that Apple sold almost as many iPods last quarter as it did Macs and you've got to wonder what the future holds for Apple and the Mac.

The G5 is a very nice product, but Apple needs updates and new products ASAP (speeds well over 2GHz, G5-based PowerBooks and iMacs with the latter giving better price-performance over the current G4s). Frankly, this silence from Apple on the 20th anniversary of the Mac has me worried.
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Oh . . . my . . . goodness.

Simply because Apple refused to validate your own wildly inflated expectations, you're predicting the imminent demise of the Mac.

Congratulations. You win the prize for the most pathetic post in this thread. Your check for $0.02 is in the mail.

Please excuse me while I go throw up. :eek:
 
Re: Re: Re: Let it go...

Originally posted by mnoya
Maybe I just have a hard time with the negative. Why be pessimistic? Why not be positive?

Positive it ain't gonna happen.
:)
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Ha ha ha :D

no hard feelings arn. I think that MacRumors has had a GREAT record of accurate page one rumors over the past few months, especially night-before and day-of rumors. It surprised me that this one (so vague) made it here. But, hey, I'm no moderator.

Anywho, I've decided to be an optimist! :)
 
Just would have been soooooooo nice

Last minute thoughts post 20th anniversary... used lots of macs in my life, got really excited since SJ came back cos there was fun and surprise in the way the boxes that we use to make some dosh in this life (and be HUGELY creative musos like me, hopefully) have come out of Apple like golden, uh, eggs with style, panache, gorgeous innovative joyful software and hey... I'm typing this using my Cube/15" flat panel screen, the coolest combo ever produced.

But no. Us in the UK still have to wait for the iTunes music store, AND the iPhoto books ("coming soon") plus pay many extra bucks (aka quid) for everything Applesque. It would have been so so nice if that nice fella in the turtleneck had celebrated The Big Day with an Ive Masterpiece, even a folly, or a super limited edition piece of Apple Genius. Just cos they can. Profits are Profits but no matter how small the iPods get, You Will Not Get A Knighthood Steven.

Anyway, still hoping, credit card and amazement primed, and goodnight from London, UK.
 
So that is what takes place in this thread!!

I was always under the impression that people here supported wild ass guesses from people who have no chance of knowing what is going on. Don't get me wrong speculation and using ones imagination is a wonderful thing , a skill that can serve anyone well. But lets face it a least a few of the posts here have no basis in realty, even mild reality.

Just my perspective, this is a great place for wishful thinking and speculation but it isn't always an intellectual gold mine. Sure a few snippets of insight flow through the HTML, but usually buffered by random rumblings.

Dave



Originally posted by Krizoitz
[B
Hanging out with the guys, watching the game, swearing up a storm, sure why not. But this is supposed to be atleast a mildly intellectual realm where we discuss ideas. [/B]
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Re: Re: Has Apple booked commercial time during the superbowl?

Originally posted by DaveGee
No they haven't...

D
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This seems odd. I hope Apple does not pass up a good opportunity like this.

Of course with Jobs in charge anything can or cannot happen.
:mad:
 
Depends on the meaning of "within 12 months"

Originally posted by habanero
One question for the 3Gc G5 tho... Didn't SJ say last June (with the announcement of the G5) that they will be at 3Gc in one year?
Now everyone here writes late summer/autumn.

Maybe I just don't remember the actual quote....
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You're remembering correctly. On June 23, he said they will be at 3ghz "within 12 months".

I have no idea where "late summer" came from. Anyone care to enlighten me?
 
Re: Re: Has Apple booked commercial time during the superbowl?

Originally posted by DaveGee
No they haven't...

D
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Yes, they have! At least for the Pepsi/iTunes promotion. I doubt Apple would have two product commercials during the Superbowl but since one is pepsi...who knows.
 
Re: I'm glad I bought ...

Originally posted by QuiteSure
I get a kick out of Macrumors, but sometimes all these rumors cause more harm than good. If you need (want) a new computer buy the thing and get it over with! Instead of wasting your time reading (and, ahem, posting) to rumors sites, learn new software, write your memoirs, BE PRODUCTIVE!
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Good theory. All these rumors slow Apple's sales down and delay their new product releases because inventory on older products is high. Apple's biggest fans doing harm to the company?
 
Re: Depends on the meaning of "within 12 months"

Originally posted by splashman
You're remembering correctly. On June 23, he said they will be at 3ghz "within 12 months".

I have no idea where "late summer" came from. Anyone care to enlighten me?
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I was never clear whether he meant "within 12 months" from announcement or from *shipping*.

I remember hearing the quotation when he said it and wasn't clear then, perhaps I was just excited. ha ha ha.

Seriously though, I think that is where the confusion comes from, which did he mean?
 
Re: Re: Depends on the meaning of "within 12 months"

Originally posted by centauratlas
I was never clear whether he meant "within 12 months" from announcement or from *shipping*.

I remember hearing the quotation when he said it and wasn't clear then, perhaps I was just excited. ha ha ha.

Seriously though, I think that is where the confusion comes from, which did he mean?
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Well, I just watched the keynote the other night, to support an obsessive and pointless debate I was having with another poster.

Here's the link: WWDC 2003 Keynote. The relevant statement occurs right at 1:52:00.

Jobs didn't qualify his statement at all. Here's the quote: "IBM and Apple are today announcing that within 12 months, we'll be at 3ghz." This seems pretty clear to me that he wasn't talking about 12 months from ship date.

It's always possible that he (or Apple) subsequently modified their target date, but if they did, I haven't heard it. Does anybody else know?
 
Re: Re: I'm glad I bought ...

Originally posted by rdowns
Good theory. All these rumors slow Apple's sales down and delay their new product releases because inventory on older products is high. Apple's biggest fans doing harm to the company?
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I strongly doubt the rumor sites are frequented by a large enough percentage of Macheads to do significant damage. But that's just my opinion.
 
Re: Re: Re: Has Apple booked commercial time during the superbowl?

Originally posted by rspress
This seems odd. I hope Apple does not pass up a good opportunity like this.

Of course with Jobs in charge anything can or cannot happen.
:mad:
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You're right, we would be better off if Steve wasn't running Apple. Better off if he wasn't letting people like Jonathan Ive design great stuff. Better off if we were still waiting for Copeland. Better of if we had to choose between 20 different models and needed a cheat sheet to tell them apart. Better off if Apple was still losing money. Better of without things like the iApps. Stupid Steve Jobs. Honestly what does he know about running a succesful company anyway...
 
Rumours slowing sales?

Could the Mac buying community be so small that "rumor readers" are stifling the sales of currently in-stock products? <P>Peace
 
Better off . . .

Originally posted by Krizoitz
You're right, we would be better off if Steve wasn't running Apple. Better off if he wasn't letting people like Jonathan Ive design great stuff. Better off if we were still waiting for Copeland. Better of if we had to choose between 20 different models and needed a cheat sheet to tell them apart. Better off if Apple was still losing money. Better of without things like the iApps. Stupid Steve Jobs. Honestly what does he know about running a succesful company anyway...
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:) Great stuff!

It's amazing to think about how far Apple has come since SJ returned. The five years before he came were notable for very little (one exception being the quarterly losses, which were pretty impressive).
 
Re: Rumours slowing sales?

Originally posted by midifarm
Could the Mac buying community be so small that "rumor readers" are stifling the sales of currently in-stock products? <P>Peace
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certainly you've seen the large amount of new users that post on these forums asking if they should wait for the newer products before buying.

most of these people have been burned by apple in the past and are not wanting to see their money spent on something they see as 'obsolete.'

in general though, i don't think the rumor community has that much of an influence on the overall number of apple sales.
 
News flash: Apple 'burns' customers! Congressional investigation to follow!

Originally posted by job
certainly you've seen the large amount of new users that post on these forums asking if they should wait for the newer products before buying.

most of these people have been burned by apple in the past and are not wanting to see their money spent on something they see as 'obsolete.'
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Just curious -- what exactly does 'burned by Apple' mean? Does it mean that SJ didn't personally call each potential customer a month before a product release to divulge the marketing roadmap and urge the helpless customer to postpone their purchase?

Perhaps you'd enlighten the rest of us as to how, exactly, Dell or HP or any other manuf. manages to avoid 'burning' their customers.

Yeeeesh.
 
What about this???

Has anyone read this yet? If so does anyone know the truth behind these statements???

"It looks as though 90nm IBM CPUs are going to hit the market right after Intel's Prescott. The G5 Xserve uses 90nm PPC 970s, which is good news for the Power Mac G5 line. Word is that the new 970 only consumes 24.5W at 2.0GHz which compares quite favorably with the first-generation 970 which used 51W at 1.8 GHz. All signs point to Chairman Jobs' bold "3.0GHz by Summer 2004" proclamation being spot on." -Eric Bangeman,
taken from: http://www.arstechnica.com/etc/mac/index.html

He says after the new Prescott is released huh??

Then Michael Kanellos (Staff Writer, CNET News.com) says: "Prescott, the code name for an enhanced version of the Pentium 4 coming out Feb. 2, will let Intel bridge the gap between the PC and the television by helping computers function more like VCRs than traditional desktops.
The chip itself is tweaked for multimedia, sporting new instructions for handling video and audio files, a larger 1MB cache, and faster chip speeds that will start around 3.4 GHz and go to 4 GHz later in the year. Security features designed to thwart attacks will also be enabled with an update of Windows XP coming in the second quarter." http://www.globetechnology.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040127.gtintel0127/BNStory/Technology/

Sounds like more pc crap but still sounds like it may be a consumer compitition for Apple's G5.

Wouldn't you like to release your new power horse after the other guy released his??

Does anyone know any info on this?

-pinkus
 
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