hmm.. maybe.. but the rounded edges don't bulge very much on the 7.. maybe two millimeters.
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Another 'iPhone 8' Design Schematic Shows Vertical Dual Camera and Touch ID on Back of Aluminum Casing
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I took my 7 plus out and measured it minus the bulges and to me, it matched those dimensions pretty close. I didn't use calipers or anything though...
Probably someone said this already, but… What “work to create such a complicated drawing so faithfully”?
Quite the contrary, actually. In fact, the hoaxers likely took the rumoured changes and haphazardly edited them onto an existing iPhone 7 Plus CAD model (and those would be trivial to find with the right connections, seeing there are non-OEM back plates like this one for sale all over ebay: http://image.dhgate.com/0x0/f2/albu/g5/M00/73/14/rBVaJFh3c5uAd4wKAAOXTf8gig8985.jpg ).
Or, better yet, Apple themselves made the hoax in-house but were sloppy because they were too busy, you know, designing the real deal, and were confident that Samsung was sloppy enough on their design process not to notice they were fake.
Oh, by the way and seeing that people are already throwing measurement comparisons around and speculating whether the hole is either for TouchID or induction charging, did anybody bother to check whether the measurements and scale on this leaked drawing are accurate? It's fairly easy, just measure the Lightning port cutout (which is the only standard part) and calculate the scale from that. I'm betting that you'll arrive at precisely the same size as the 7 Plus back plate, thus confirming the values (and the whole thing) as being bogus.
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Probably someone said this already, but… What “work to create such a complicated drawing so faithfully”?
Quite the contrary, actually. In fact, the hoaxers likely took the rumoured changes and haphazardly edited them onto an existing iPhone 7 Plus CAD model (and those would be trivial to find with the right connections, seeing there are non-OEM back plates like this one for sale all over ebay: http://image.dhgate.com/0x0/f2/albu/g5/M00/73/14/rBVaJFh3c5uAd4wKAAOXTf8gig8985.jpg ).
Or, better yet, Apple themselves made the hoax in-house but were sloppy because they were too busy, you know, designing the real deal, and were confident that Samsung was sloppy enough on their design process not to notice they were fake.
That's a photograph you linked. Photograph is not the same as a 3D cad model.
They're different lol.
Well, I couldn't find one on Google, but you don't think those photographed cases materialize out of thin air, now, do you? And they're probably not done on the same factory as the original (not all of them, at least), they are milled with CNC machines programmed with… you guessed it, CAD drawings.
Haven't you seen that video of the guy who bought all the components and hand-assembled a whole 6S model in China? At some point he bought a plain back plate and had it laser-engraved (down to the industrial QR-codes and rough surfaces on the inside where ribbon cables and other components are supposed to be glued, not just the branding and regulatory information on the outside) in a small shop on some back alley.
If those guys had access to internal Apple manufacturing spec files or close approximations thereof, it's safe to say that the CAD drawings for the back plates themselves, especially of a mature model like the 7 Plus, are all over the place now. Maybe not on the surface web or in sites written in English, but if you gave me enough time, a decent VPN provider, Tor, a Chinese course and a link to whatever Google clone the Chinese use currently (or some combination thereof), I'd probably find those much quicker than even the best 3d expert could reverse-engineer and redraw the models from an actual part (even if that was what those manufacturer originally did in the first place, back when the thing was released).
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Not only the 7 but the iPhone 6 and 6S.
Looks the same to me too just that these renders show a glass enclosure as opposed to the metal we have now.
If this is the next iPhone it's a FAIL in my opinion and I will not put down the 1K+ to get one.
I'll just stick with my Jet black 7 Plus.
I hate Android but my god, the Galaxy S8 looks better than these renders.
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I hope your right because it still look A LOT like the iPhone 6, 6S and 7.
sorry but they're completely different models on the inside..
look:
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just about every detail is different between these.. (like fastener placements.. reinforcements.. holes cut through the body for buttons like volume on the 7 while some other style mechanism would need to be used on the newer model.. etc)
this isn't hoaxers at play..
both of these models are very likely connected directly to apple and they're very different from each other..
Dude, what? You're looking at the wrong model, man… That's either the iPhone 6/6S, the iPhone 6/6S Plus or the iPhone 7, *not* the iPhone 7 Plus, because it has a round, single-camera cut-out instead of the pill-shaped dual-camera cut-out featured in the latter model. If you compare the mounting points and flash cut-out area from the current iPhone 7 Plus casing, they line up almost exactly with these leaked drawings, except for a few minor details, the rumoured TouchID cutout, the rotated camera cut-out, an extra flash cut-out and the original flash cut-out inexplicably filled in.
So… as for the latter two holes, why would not only the original one but also its mounting point stay there as a weird remnant? Sure, Apple might have to cave in and move TouchID to the back, but I can assure you that, from an engineering and cost standpoint, they would *never* do something so… illogical and stupid; and no, the space for a camera on the 3d Gen. iPod Touch doesn't really count, it was something specific to that model that they removed at the last moment, kind of like the el cheapo black and silver 5th Gen. iPod Touch without a camera except before it was even released; no, it's not just empty space but quite a thick layer of extraneous aluminium that serves no structural purpose whatsoever, since the part that was supposed to be there no longer is *because it was moved elsewhere* by design, instead of just having been removed after the fact.
This is almost the exact same part down to, I'm venturing to guess, the exact measurements (as Apple didn't even keep the same mounting points between the same-sized regular and S-models, so why would they just take the existing iPhone 7 Plus casing, down to the mounting points, and just scale it down?). It would make sense if it was an iPhone 7S Plus casing, but then… why would the TouchID sensor have to be moved to the back, seeing that all the remaining components would stay the same? At best, maybe this is a 7S Plus with a front-facing TouchID sensor and a back-facing magnetic induction charging window, as patented by Apple, but there's no way in hell this is the rumoured iPhone 8, and even then I have my doubts about its inconsistencies.
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oh, right.. it's the 7.. not 7 plus.
i don't think i've ever seen the innards of a 7 plus but i was assuming it would be similar.. i'll look around for a drawing.
Honestly – and I'm not being cheeky or anything –, good luck with that, but I think you'll be wasting your time. It took me a while, but that back plate I've shown you is the KIRF deal. But hey, if you want to see the actual, real deal (Designed by Apple in California and Made in China just as well), here ya go: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+7+Plus+Teardown/67384
I, for one, am much more optimistic about the chances of TouchID *not* being on the back or at least of this purported Apple-made drawing not being genuine. Maybe TouchID will indeed end up there, but this doesn't seem to be proof of that. At best, it's as legit as the other renderings we've seen before, and was just made to show the purported innards of the back plate and look more genuine, by starting from an actual CAD model and sloppily editing it instead of just mocking-up the outside of the thing; ironically enough, that very option was what gave it away as the fake it most likely is.
I'm also entertaining another thought: maybe both the earlier render and this one came from the same author, and the latter was only made because there were too many nay-sayers decrying its authenticity (MR's rival AppleInsider editors being a high-profile case, for instance). I guess that if that was the case, it might just backfire spectacularly.
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Of course.... If u are having "issues" with embedding TouchID under the glass, and having all these other goodies on the iPhone 8 u *wouldn't* want a glass back because u wanna *cut down the cost* right ?
I would say TouchID on the back..... Why would Apple have a phone with no security at all when the company is "focused" on security ? They may have better luck with facial recognition.
I would say TouchID on the back..... Why would Apple have a phone with no security at all when the company is "focused" on security ? They may have better luck with facial recognition.
Well, iPad is different.
Media always can't get correct rumors, or even can't get any information with the iPads. I don't know why.
I am sure Apple knows that user interface across 3 iphone models should be consistent, you can;t have 2 phones with touch id on front and one on back. And since Apple is working on putting touch id below the glass surface, 1 year later move that touch id to front. Not going to happen.
hmm, yeah.. these are different in a lot of ways though still very similar.
however, the differences are at small scale & slight change.. for example:
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...cutting a hole in the model and hoaxing 'look, touch ID on the back' (muahahaha)..
is easy to do.. changing out these basically unnoticeable details requires a lot more effort and skill and time.. i just don't see a hoaxer going through this amount of trouble.
but just so we're clear.. nothing i'm saying in these posts tonights is meant as "ooooh. my idea of what apple is doing is this _____" ..
like, i'm currently more interested in being nerdy about CAD models than speculating on a future iPhone..
and just saying, i really do doubt this is some joker on the internet doing these models...
if i were an internet joker, i'd tell you about this sweet new product apple is releasing in June..
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it's a time clock for employers to use at their place of business..
employees put their phone in when they get to work which clocks them in.. if they pull it out and start texting/instagramming/etc, they're off the clock and you won't be paying them for their social networking skillz.
subsequent features are that it charges the phones as well as joins the network and clusters for processing if needed.. for a little security, the touchID on the side ejects only the individual's phone.
(but hey, point being... it's easier to model that thing than making all those small surface changes on the production type CAD model.. especially considering the OP model is not sloppy.. it's clean, skilled, and curvature continuous modeling)
if i switch to speculation or wish mode-
i like the last 'leaked' rendering posted on MR.. the one with the double sided glass and steel band going around the perimeter..
i hope that's the iPhone8.. it's sweet and something i think i'd be happy with upgrading to from a 6s.
if this hole in the back we're seeing lately is for touchID and will be an actual product.. i hope it's for iphone7s.. or, i don't care what it's for as long as i could score that other phone from the model a couple days back
sure, i agree.
heh, it's not sloppy though.
The home button on the new iPhone isn't an actual button either, but it is both that and Touch ID in one. We will have to wait to see how Apple designs the next generation iPhone.
Cant really say at this point but if we have another schematic or part leak then its pretty much confirmed
I definitely think if touch ID is on the back of the new iPhone, it will thwart off some people from upgrading, but I actually welcome the change and look forward to us having a different iPhone in general. If it means getting used to having touch ID on the back, I can accept that. It's no different when Apple deleted the 3.5 mm Jack and that also took some time to adjust for some. So I welcome the change. But I understand that not everybody does.
More than a different feature, I think it is a step back!
It breaks completely the aesthetic of apple and the iPhone in general... Celebrating the X anniversary of the iPhone by adopting an android-esque feature? I don't think so.
Definitely they will be delaying it and release it the proper way. This is one of the MANY prototypes yet to be released.
It breaks completely the aesthetic of apple and the iPhone in general... Celebrating the X anniversary of the iPhone by adopting an android-esque feature? I don't think so.
Definitely they will be delaying it and release it the proper way. This is one of the MANY prototypes yet to be released.
Dear Apple,
Please look at Samsung Galaxy S8 and their users... .they are fingering their devices from the back.
This is neither aestetic not appropriate.
Thank you.
Please look at Samsung Galaxy S8 and their users... .they are fingering their devices from the back.
This is neither aestetic not appropriate.
Thank you.
Even if technical reasons meant they had to put Touch ID on the back, there's not a cat in hell's chance they would risk being accused of copying Samsung and doing it.
Apple will find a far superior way to continue having it on the front and implement it.
Apple will find a far superior way to continue having it on the front and implement it.
They could make the display surround the home button I guess...
For sure Apple will come up with something much more pleasing to the eye...
You mean they'll include the option to put the watch on the phone for recharging?
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The recent trend in Apple's design decisions does not reinforce me to share your belief. I feel like the design department is missing a corrective, like it had in SJ.