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Another 'iPhone 8' Design Schematic Shows Vertical Dual Camera and Touch ID on Back of Aluminum Casing

I really, really hope this is either fake or a backup plan for Apple.

I don't want a phone bigger than my iPhone 7.

I definitely don't want Touch ID on the back. I often unlock my iPhone while it's laying flat on a surface. PITA if I have to pick it up each time.

The renders where there is a 4mm bezel on all four sides is what I hope becomes reality. That is rumored to be roughly the same size as my iPhone 7.
 
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shplock said:
I may be wrong but I do not think that touch id will be where it is indicated on the back. I will leave aside that it makes no sense as many posters here point out and instead talk about the position. On the schematics it appears to be where the battery would be. That is if that circle in the middle is indeed a cut out for touch id and not for something else. On the Samsung galaxy S8 the fingerprint scanner is near the top of the phone and I think it is out of the way of the battery. I could be wrong but I don't think the iPhone 8/x whatever will be thick enough for touch id to be placed on the back in the middle and not impact the battery.
The touch id module on the iPhone 7 and previous is at the bottom where the battery stops, so no conflict.
I also do not see Apple making the new iPhone so fat to accommodate both battery and touch id after years of Jonny Ive 'obsessing' over thin and thinner iPhones.
Though touch id could still be on the back near the top, out of the way of the battery though I can not see that either.
I am no cad designer etc but I just can't see it.
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I think you might be onto something there - considering the logic board layout and battery placement I can;t see them fitting an 0.5 - 1mm thick TouchiD sensor right in the middle of the device; it just doesn't make packaging sense. What would make sense is to add a ceramic section to the rear of the device to aid inductive charging. I think this is the 7S+ as others have said, and it will continue to have TouchID on the front.

Also - doing a dimensional check, the hole is much larger than a standard TouchID ring (compare it to the lightening port size - if you look on your own iPhone they are almost the same width)
 
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Looks pretty legit now that this the design.

Things I don't like are few but if Apple wanted to have Touch ID on the phone with no bezels surely inside the Apple logo would have been far better. It's location on the back is unsettling considering the logo is perfect and in a good location already. The case I have has a slight recess.

Also I'm concerned that Apple has not kept 16:9 as an aspect ratio that will keep me away from this phone. I don't want pillar boxing and currently no apps or content will look good on that format. The Miss steps are really terrifying for a company that used to get it right.
 
morcutt11 said:
Sorry Apple, but it is definitely a "NO" if touch ID is on the back. I've used Android phones that are like that and it is a pain.

I'm hoping that Apple is just trying to flood the market with false specs of different variations to keep people guessing right up to the official announcement.

I'd love to see Tim Cook come out and show the fingerprint sensor working underneath a bezel-less display and say, "What? You didn't think we were going to put it on the back did you?"
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Phil Schiller*
 
Oh crap, just looked at dimensions. Both have aspects of around 2.06. If Apple is moving home button to the back this means they have not stuck to 16:9 and instead made the screen taller. This is both bad for usability and terrible for video, I will not buy a non 16:9 screen.
 
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Calling it now. Tim will cheap out and release this watered down version.

You can link my post for this autumn :D. Omg know him so well.
 
vertical camera lens is ugly, and I really see no reason why they would opt for it, but I guess I can live with that, but touch ID on back is unacceptable.
 
TurboPGT! said:
I can promise you, Touch ID will not be on the back.
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When the rumour mill is in full spin , these schematics don't tend to lie. I don't like it either but unfortunately I see it happening. I'll quote you on that. I'll come back here to prove you wrong come september ;)
 
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Just maybe the tech under the display simply isn't ready yet and finger print scanner on the back is the only option.
 
morcutt11 said:
I'm hoping that Apple is just trying to flood the market with false specs of different variations to keep people guessing right up to the official announcement.
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This x 1000000000

The Walking Dead did this same thing with great success. They filmed death scenes for all cast members intentionally, to make it harder to say which cast member was going to be killed off, and ensure that any leaks would likely result in the wrong information getting out, so the "holy crap" value wasn't altered when the show aired.

When you know you have one of the most desirable products/services in the world, and a multi-million dollar market exists solely around predicting what you will do with that product/service, sometimes you need to go the extra mile towards intentional confusion if you want to maintain the surprise come release time, IMO. :)
 
Dear Apple: A Touch ID sensor position on the BACK of an iPhone is an instant WILL NOT BUY for me. And if you put it under the front display, I'll wait MONTHS before I buy one so I can read about early adopter experiences before investing my hard-earned cash.

Sometimes you just seem to "innovate" for the sake of saying that you "innovated". You know, like that trash can Mac Pro that is a dog that practically nobody wants. Function over form is more important than form over function!

Mark
 
Mallwill said:
I think you might be onto something there - considering the logic board layout and battery placement I can;t see them fitting an 0.5 - 1mm thick TouchiD sensor right in the middle of the device; it just doesn't make packaging sense. What would make sense is to add a ceramic section to the rear of the device to aid inductive charging. I think this is the 7S+ as others have said, and it will continue to have TouchID on the front.

Also - doing a dimensional check, the hole is much larger than a standard TouchID ring (compare it to the lightening port size - if you look on your own iPhone they are almost the same width)
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Here's the thing -- it makes perfect sense to put the Touch ID on the back of the phone, if Apple is trying to wean users off of it, and get them to use retina scan/face recognition. This is rumored to be on the super premium phone anyway, which means that there will be fewer early adopters anyway, and the Touch ID is included as a failsafe until the retina/facial recognition software is road-tested and improved.

What doesn't make sense is not putting the inductive charging into the Apple logo, which is already a hole in the phone, and adding a separate hole for it.
 
ILuvEggplant said:
so you believe this is the iphone 6 s s s edition? get it ? iphone 6 = iphone 7
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I still think we are mislead by all the rumors and our assumptions. Not by apple itself.
There is something odd about these rumors, and things could end up to be quite different in the end.
It is just like the ipad air 3 we all anticipated and ended up being the ipad pro 9.7, or like the SE and the recently launched 9.7 ipad we did not see coming.
Apple is doing things different nowadays, while everyone says: apple won' t do that, they never did it this way, etc.

My guess is that these drawings are the 7s plus, with a good old 16:9 5,5 inch ips lcd , without the big chins and bezels and touchid on the back, with an alu unibody , antenna lines, etc. It still strikes me as odd that in the earlier evt leaked screenshots the dimensions of this model were compared to the 7plus model.

The 5.8 oled edition with a steel frame, glass back, etc is quite a different beast compared to this leaked one.
 
The Game 161 said:
Just maybe the tech under the display simply isn't ready yet and finger print scanner on the back is the only option.
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This.^ This is exactly my thoughts as well. That Apple is likely working on this technology to have the touch ID embedded under the display, yet it may not be ready for prime time release, therefore they are Remapping the Touch ID on the back of the iPhone if this rumor is accurate. I personally don't feel we will see the touch ID embeded under the display this year.
 
TurboPGT! said:
I can promise you, Touch ID will not be on the back.
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I really hope not.

Very frequently, I turn on/unlock my phone while it's sitting on a surface (my desk, bed, etc), and that would become a right pain if I had to pick it up every time to position my finger on a touch ID that's on the rear of the device.
 
I think the Touch ID will remain on the front because it can be accessed by either hand. That's functional and iconic. I'm not believing these rumors. They are just that and coming so frequently that I don't pay them much mind
 
morcutt11 said:
I'd love to see Tim Cook come out and show the fingerprint sensor working underneath a bezel-less display and say, "What? You didn't think we were going to put it on the back did you?"
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I can imagine this an it will be exactly why I love Apple. It would be the best in your face to the android phones. I am however fearful of what Apple might do. Steve isn't there any more to demand it be in the display. :/
 
rp2011 said:
I don't know, but the dimensions on that drawing are essentially the same as the 6/7 minus the round over and just flat ends.
But whatever this is, and whether it comes to fruition, that file for that drawing came from within Apple manufacturing.
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fwiw, the dimensions of the model on the front page are 72.5 x 149.5..
those dimensions specify a size that falls almost exactly in between the dimensions of a 7 and 7plus:

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(iPhone7 specs)


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Sad part is, no matter how crappy their stuffs are, people are still paying for those junk as long as it is Apple.
We need to stop this madness if we want Apple to change.
 
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