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Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil
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Drawing, may be no, writing? Well that can be a big YES!
Then there is Photo retouching, wich can be done with a Stylus (pardon Pencil) way better than with a finger, and even if not at professional level it could be done on an iPhone, video, cutting with a precision device is easier than with a finger (there's iMovie for that), i mean Drawing is probably about the lest obvious to me.
Not many, but it's cool to have the option for the few that do.
I would love for Pencil-supported iPhone to go along with the iPad Pro.
Apple's always thinking ahead. The pencil has a hidden secondary function - extended selfie stick.
Apple's second-generation iPhone X, and a widely expected 6.5-inch model dubbed the iPhone X Plus, will both be compatible with the Apple Pencil, according to Taiwanese publication Economic Daily News.
The report, citing "industry insiders," claims that Apple Pencil support will be limited to those OLED models, meaning that Apple's upcoming lower-cost 6.1-inch iPhone with an LCD will not work with the drawing tool. Taiwanese research firm TrendForce shared the same prediction earlier this week.
Apple Pencil launched in November 2015 alongside the original 12.9-inch iPad Pro, and it works with all other iPad Pro models released since. Last March, Apple expanded the tool's compatibility to the new sixth-generation iPad, a lower-cost, 9.7-inch model targeted at students and the classroom.
If these rumors prove to be true, this would be the first time Apple releases its own stylus for the iPhone in the device's 11-year history.
When introducing the original iPhone in 2007, Apple's late co-founder Steve Jobs quipped that "nobody wants a stylus" with a smartphone, but Apple has played the semantics game in insisting that the Apple Pencil is a drawing tool. It's also been over a decade since Jobs made that comment--things change.
It's unclear if Apple will release a smaller Pencil for the iPhone, as the current version could be rather unwieldy for use with an iPhone. Apple has yet to update the Pencil's design since it first launched three years ago.
A stylus on a mobile device is nothing new, but only a handful of modern smartphones have one, including the Samsung Galaxy Note with the S Pen, which can be used to draw on the screen, handwrite notes, annotate documents, and more.
Designed to mimic the feel and sensation of using a pen or a pencil, the Apple Pencil has built-in sensors to determine orientation and angle, and to detect a range of forces for pressure-sensitive drawing and writing. On the iPad Pro, the Apple Pencil is sampled at 240Hz for minimal latency.
Apple is expected to unveil a trio of new iPhones at its usual September event at Steve Jobs Theater, and Apple Pencil support would surely be a headline feature if true. A new Apple Pencil altogether is certainly a possibility too.
Article Link: Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil
Natural evolution of hardware following the newer drawing features in Notes and Photos markup.
I know I’ve occassionally wished to jot quickly on iPX rather than open same file on orig iPad Pro 12.9 just to scribble/edit one thing.
As to size and carry issues, that will be worked out.
After moving to the X I miss my phablet 6S+. I really want a Phablet again, but the money of such a large phone will be amazingly expensive thanks to the X which is smaller.
Now remind me, are kidneys like the appendix in that you dont really need them? Because I have two for sale if that's the case.
Now remind me, are kidneys like the appendix in that you dont really need them? Because I have two for sale if that's the case.
Pardon an ESL guy here, but how on Earth does this sort as a semantics game?
As I understand it, a semantics game is when people are debating something that comes down to making irrelevant, nonexistent or meaningless distinctions between the senses of words, or playing with which word is used to imbue the conversation with the more/less favourable connotation of the speaker's preferred word as compared to that of the word preferred by the other party, or other such feckless flounderings and prevarications.
There's a very clear and meaningful distinction between an input device designed to function as the preferred or sole means of operating a touchscreen device, with or without the additional ability to function as a better way to draw, and an input device designed to function as a digital drawing tool, with or without the additional ability to function as a means of operating the device.
The Apple Pencil is neither the sole means of operating any iDevice, nor (in my experience) a preferred means of doing so, although it certainly can (which is useful, since it avoids the need to adjust your grip to operate the screen with your fingers, and avoids smudging the screen while you're working on a drawing). If it were designed to be the preferred means of operating some iDevice, it would have a very different design, as the ergonomics are terrible for that use, but excellent for drawing (despite the lack of an eraser in the back or a button on the side).
Moreover, it is clear that Steve Jobs, for all his various flaws, understood (and- by context- was, with regard to the iPhone, referring to) the simple fact that a stylus is one more thing that can go wrong, and inferior to multitouch as a means of operating the device. When you are making a phone, you are making a device the users will sometimes use for emergency phone calls, and the last thing you want is for them to think they're carrying a reliable phone, only to realise they're missing a critical component (hands up anyone here who has never misplaced a stylus or pencil or the like, and also never forgotten to bring/pack it when leaving work or home) at the time when that reliability is required. If you design your smartphone to require a stylus, you're pretty much saying the user will need to carry a phone they can rely on, in addition to the one they bought from you. And if that were the intention, they would've just released a new iPod, "now with GSM Data as an option!", rather than creating the iPhone.
No current iDevice requires a stylus, in the meaningfully distinct sense of requiring one to function.
That Steve Jobs failed to foresee that a stylus might be a valuable addition to the functionality of the phone, and the earlier tablets, is a shortcoming on his part, but entirely irrelevant in regard to the assertion that a stylus is a poor choice for a baseline input modality in a device that needs to be reliable. A stylus gets lost, misplaced, forgotten, or just plain worn out, and has different requirements for working well than does the finger operated touchscreen design (which, as we know, is now so ubiquitous that most of us can't remember the days when a touchscreen was one of those aggravating features of wall mounted terminals, the ones you operated by punching a face-sized "button" repeatedly in the hopes it would work, until you found yourself imagining the designer in between you and the UI to motivate yourself to keep trying).
Who wants a stylus?
The kind of stylus and associated paradigm it referred to when Jobs made the statement?
Nobody in their right mind, is who.
But some of us want a stylus of the modern kind, in the modern paradigm that the iPhone created, where it can serve as an accessibility aid for some, a way to keep the screen clean for others, and a way to create digital art for people like me who got one for that reason and that reason only. The Apple Pencil being one of the best options in that regard, and a welcome addition to the iPhone (just wish I'd held off on replacing my dying phone one more generation; oh, well).
That kind of stylus didn't exist when Jobs made his statement. At least, not in any meaningful sense. You did have various hacks that sort of worked to some extent, the best of them by sensing the peaking of the light intensity from the phosphors of a CRT when the beam scanned past, the timing giving the location of the tip at that point, offering a whopping 25-30 samples per second with an accuracy of millimeters. Apple Pencil is capable of sampling the tip position with pixel perfect accuracy 240 times per second, and the input can be reflected in less time than the lag sensitivity of our hand-eye coordination feedback loop's predictor function with good software. That's a whole different ballgame.
Someone arguing that the distinction between a jumpsuit/tracksuit and a business suit is "just a semantic game" because "they're both suits" in response to the assertion they're not in compliance with the dress code at some venue will elicit a chuckle and an eyeroll from the bouncer, at best.
The similar assertion in the article that the stylus comment is, essentially, retracted or backtracked on but for "semantic games", is no more worthy of consideration, nor less worthy of a chuckle and an eyeroll, than the suit comment in the analogy, and the editor should consider applying a dress code edit. Or stick some tongue in cheek emoji in there to pass it off as a joke.
And I should probably find something better to do than write several paragraphs about it, so... /bounces.
The amount of people backtracking now is insane. Samsung releases the note, ''Oh the stylus is so dated...why?". Apple brings the pencil to the iPhone, "Oh, Apple already did that with the Newton". The heck?
TBH I think the stylus is a great tool when it's NOT a requirement. When you can suddenly draw, sketch or use it as a more convenient mouse of sorts. Definitely adds more depth.
TBH I think the stylus is a great tool when it's NOT a requirement. When you can suddenly draw, sketch or use it as a more convenient mouse of sorts. Definitely adds more depth.
If you take notes on your feet (meaning, hard to use a laptop or even a tablet).....and you don't want to look like you are texting while someone is talking to you..... the stylus is great. I use Notability.....and record discussions while making time-stamped quick notes with the stylus on my ipad.
If I could leave the iPad in the car, and simply whip out my phone for notes....that would be amazing. I wouldn't have to carry anything.
If I could leave the iPad in the car, and simply whip out my phone for notes....that would be amazing. I wouldn't have to carry anything.
I would guess there will be an apple branded case that will have a space for it, and obviously only people who want to use it will buy that case so it won't get in the way for people who don't.
... and further, Apple Pencil is for drawing and note taking, not pointing and controlling most aspects of the iPhone. Seems reasonable to me, especially with larger screens coming.
Reason most called it dated was because they already used it with a Newton, palm, psion,Symbian, and or Windows ce device.... and they are all dated just like the stylus is.
Sure there are niche applications for it but that’s about it. It’s is no linger the primary method of interacting with a touch screen, resistive or otherwise.
When does apple give you choices? only before you buy it
. Not stylus for phones if you want a pen get a Ipad
Right? People tout the freedom of using Wacom pen, mouse, trackpad, etc. on Macs/MacBooks but on iPhone it's bad since they don't want to appear as copying Galaxy Note.
Apple's second-generation iPhone X, and a widely expected 6.5-inch model dubbed the iPhone X Plus, will both be compatible with the Apple Pencil, according to Taiwanese publication Economic Daily News.
The report, citing "industry insiders," claims that Apple Pencil support will be limited to those OLED models, meaning that Apple's upcoming lower-cost 6.1-inch iPhone with an LCD will not work with the drawing tool. Taiwanese research firm TrendForce shared the same prediction earlier this week.
Apple Pencil launched in November 2015 alongside the original 12.9-inch iPad Pro, and it works with all other iPad Pro models released since. Last March, Apple expanded the tool's compatibility to the new sixth-generation iPad, a lower-cost, 9.7-inch model targeted at students and the classroom.
If these rumors prove to be true, this would be the first time Apple releases its own stylus for the iPhone in the device's 11-year history.
When introducing the original iPhone in 2007, Apple's late co-founder Steve Jobs quipped that "nobody wants a stylus" with a smartphone, but Apple has played the semantics game in insisting that the Apple Pencil is a drawing tool. It's also been over a decade since Jobs made that comment--things change.
It's unclear if Apple will release a smaller Pencil for the iPhone, as the current version could be rather unwieldy for use with an iPhone. Apple has yet to update the Pencil's design since it first launched three years ago.
A stylus on a mobile device is nothing new, but only a handful of modern smartphones have one, including the Samsung Galaxy Note with the S Pen, which can be used to draw on the screen, handwrite notes, annotate documents, and more.
Designed to mimic the feel and sensation of using a pen or a pencil, the Apple Pencil has built-in sensors to determine orientation and angle, and to detect a range of forces for pressure-sensitive drawing and writing. On the iPad Pro, the Apple Pencil is sampled at 240Hz for minimal latency.
Apple is expected to unveil a trio of new iPhones at its usual September event at Steve Jobs Theater, and Apple Pencil support would surely be a headline feature if true. A new Apple Pencil altogether is certainly a possibility too.
Article Link: Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil
Woohoo, this would be very welcome. Personally I doubt Apple would go the expense of putting the necessary digitizer into the screen for the few that would use this. I would use it a ton, but I still bet it would be a niche feature.
Also, can someone please manufacture and sell that HUGE iPhone in the mockup/picture?!?!
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Most likely it will magnetically attach to the earpods, since their fit inside most ears is so good they never fall out. This way the pencil is always accessible.
Which people are touting?
How can a company copy something from another company that themselves copied an idea?
The Newton was first released in 1993. Not exactly "Many years" after 1989.You do realise the GRiDPad was released in 1989 - Mahy years before the Newton. It featured a Stylus and had hand writing recognition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton
Plus, the GriDPad was $3000 and weighed 4.5 pounds (!!!). The Newton was $700 and weighed less than a POUND. Pretty substantial price (and SIZE! and WEIGHT!) reduction (over 3:1 for price, and over 4:1 for weight).
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/messagepad/stats/newton_mp_omp.html
The GriDPad was MUCH more like a tablet TERMINAL than a standalone computing device. The Newton was exactly that.
I wonder what the failure-rate in the field was for that CORDED Stylus?
Oh, and besides, the GriDPad was just a rip-off of the Linus Write-Pad from 1987:
http://oldcomputers.net/linus.html
Of course, it weighed a "LUGGABLE" 9 pounds!!! Imagine carrying THAT thing around...