Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil

[Tech198]

Technically, who *does* what a stylus... except its like one, just can do more with it. Give it a new name.'

It would have been good it the pencil worked on OLED and LCD. but that could be because the touch surfaces worked different.

 

[ROGmaster]

Stylus were common in smartphones only a few years before the Note with WinCE and Palm based devices. Yes they have fallen out of favor over the last decade, but I don’t think you can credit an Apple Stylus as a Samsung copy.
That said the new Note looks fantastic and I have been tempted to jump ship with my next upgrade. If Apple includes Pencil support, there is no contest and I will stay Apple for a couple more years.

I clearly wrote a modern smartphones.
Users here were crediting gestures as an Apple copy no problem for example. Why would this be different?

 

[Shanghaichica]

I clearly wrote a modern smartphones.
Users here were crediting gestures as an Apple copy no problem for example. Why would this be different?

Because Apple don’t copy. Remember it’s just a natural evolution or other OEMs who had the feature first simply copied a rumour that Apple were going to do it.

 

[djas]

I was on a Palm TX & a Nokia candybar before I move to iPhone ten years ago. So I know what's the difference between a resistive stylus, a wacom emr & the apple pencil. All I'm asking is if the new upcoming iphone support Pencil, that will be great. I have no interest who does what first. It has no bearing.

Apple is the only iOS manufacturer. They control this. They can support this if they wanna. My question is: Why aren't they?

 

[Shanghaichica]

I was on a Palm TX & a Nokia candybar before I move to iPhone ten years ago. So I know what's the difference between a resistive stylus, a wacom emr & the apple pencil. All I'm asking is if the new upcoming iphone support Pencil, that will be great. I have no interest who does what first. It has no bearing.

Apple is the only iOS manufacturer. They control this. They can support this if they wanna. My question is: Why aren't they?

I had the Sony Ericsson p900 and the MDA compact IV, note 1,3,4 and 8 and now the Apple Pencil so I also know the difference. I don’t want to get the galaxy note just for a stylus. I’d rather Apple just bring pencil support to the iPhone.

 

[jeffe]

why is it so important for everyone to justify who is copying whom? It really doesn't matter to the user. Reading through these comments is depressing.

 

[LovingTeddy]

It depends on what you need the computer to do. I’d never need to do a ‘100 cell excel’ sheet so I wouldn’t run into that problem.

For me a sub £300 laptop running windows would be my idea of nightmare. Poor hardware, an under powered processor and loads of bloatware. That would be my idea of hell.

However as I said it depends on what you want to do and for some a £300 laptop would be far more useful than an iPad.

You must never went over to Amazon and looking at refurbished section of the laptop. I could find you a Core i5 based ThinkPad for less than 300 dollars. I have my own refurbished ThinkPad, it has been running greatly for past 2 years. Never had any issue with that.

I also upgrade the SSD to 512GB and installed fresh copy of Windows. No bloatware. Plus you can always unistall all the bloatware if you want (It is not like iPad has no bloatware anyway).
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I agree. Besides, the best spreadsheet jockeys that I used to work with would never use a laptop. They always had at least two big monitors and and a powerful desktop computer. They need lots of screen real estate for huge worksheets with multiple tabs and downloaded data from corporate data bases. Using a laptop to work on these giant templates was a nightmare.

You do realize that you can connect laptop with the external monitors right?
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Because Apple don’t copy. Remember it’s just a natural evolution or other OEMs who had the feature first simply copied a rumour that Apple were going to do it.

Apple didn't copy, you are right. Apple just take idea from others and claim it is theirs.

 

[I7guy]

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Apple didn't copy, you are right. Apple just take idea from others and claim it is theirs.

Well to be fair touchid is apples, but apple didn't invent the fingerprint reader. Apple Pay is apples, but apple didn't invent NFC payments. Competition, like Samsung, blatantly copies others and then pokes apple in commercials for at least putting their own spin on it.

 

[Abazigal]

You do realize that you can connect laptop with the external monitors right?

At what point does it stop being a cheap laptop you found off amazon, and turn into a cheap laptop + expensive SSD + dual monitors + a whole bunch of accessories and peripherals you need to get the job done properly?

 

[LovingTeddy]

At what point does it stop being a cheap laptop you found off amazon, and turn into a cheap laptop + expensive SSD + dual monitors + a whole bunch of accessories and peripherals you need to get the job done properly?

So you are saying one port MacBook or two port USBC MacBook Pro is pointless? Because you need whole bunch of accessories and peripherals as well.

I might just go Amazon for a cheaper Windows machines and save my money.

Because you know, a refurbished ThinkPad, Plus a monitor plus a keyboard and mice is way cheaper than the entry level MacBook
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Well to be fair touchid is apples, but apple didn't invent the fingerprint reader. Apple Pay is apples, but apple didn't invent NFC payments. Competition, like Samsung, blatantly copies others and then pokes apple in commercials for at least putting their own spin on it.

So tell me how did other copy Apple if Apple didn't invent any of them?

NFC payment has been used in both Japan and China way before Apple comes up with its own Apple Pay. Japanese has been using their phone to pay for subway for long time. If anything it is Apple bluntly copy other.

Apple, the trademark of copycat.

 

[Shanghaichica]

So you are saying one port MacBook or two port USBC MacBook Pro is pointless? Because you need whole bunch of accessories and peripherals as well.

I might just go Amazon for a cheaper Windows machines and save my money.

Because you know, a refurbished ThinkPad, Plus a monitor plus a keyboard and mice is way cheaper than the entry level MacBook
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So tell me how did other copy Apple if Apple didn't invent any of them?

NFC payment has been used in both Japan and China way before Apple comes up with its own Apple Pay. Japanese has been using their phone to pay for subway for long time. If anything it is Apple bluntly copy other.

Apple, the trademark of copycat.

Did your ThinkPad set up cost less than $300?

Google had Google wallet but were not interested in it. It was a mess and on the verge of being abandoned like all the other google projects. Then Apple announces Apple Pay and google quickly revamp their payments system and samsung snap up loop pay and come up with Samsung pay.

 

[Mainsail]

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Of course, but the spreadsheet jocks I knew would never work on these giant files in laptop mode (lack of screen real estate), so they would just use a desktop rig. My point is that they might be just as well off with a desktop plus an iPad, rather than have a laptop, since they aren’t going to work on the spreadsheets in laptop mode anyway.

 

[I7guy]

So you are saying one port MacBook or two port USBC MacBook Pro is pointless? Because you need whole bunch of accessories and peripherals as well.

I might just go Amazon for a cheaper Windows machines and save my money.

Because you know, a refurbished ThinkPad, Plus a monitor plus a keyboard and mice is way cheaper than the entry level MacBook
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So tell me how did other copy Apple if Apple didn't invent any of them?

NFC payment has been used in both Japan and China way before Apple comes up with its own Apple Pay. Japanese has been using their phone to pay for subway for long time. If anything it is Apple bluntly copy other.

Apple, the trademark of copycat.

So tell me...exactly what did Samsung invent? Oled, nope, wifi chip, nope. Processor, nope. SD card, nope. Stylus, nope. speaker, nope. Bezeless design, nope. Wireless charging, iris scanner, fingerprint reader, waterproofing, all nope. They literally invented nothing on a Note 8, except the dimensions.

Samsung, the copycats of copycats.

 

[djas]

I'm an Apple user through and through. But this is getting ridiculous. Hail Apple! We're the best.

I'm outta here.

 

[Jsameds]

Cracks me up how defensive people are over apple. Why in the world would that bother you for someone to say that. Smh

Cracks me up that you’d feel so strongly about it to reply to me about it.

Ess Emmm Aitch!

 

[LovingTeddy]

So tell me...exactly what did Samsung invent? Oled, nope, wifi chip, nope. Processor, nope. SD card, nope. Stylus, nope. speaker, nope. Bezeless design, nope. Wireless charging, iris scanner, fingerprint reader, waterproofing, all nope. They literally invented nothing on a Note 8, except the dimensions.

Samsung, the copycats of copycats.

By your definition, Apple is copycat of copycat of copycat.
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Did your ThinkPad set up cost less than $300?

Google had Google wallet but were not interested in it. It was a mess and on the verge of being abandoned like all the other google projects. Then Apple announces Apple Pay and google quickly revamp their payments system and samsung snap up loop pay and come up with Samsung pay.

Yes. It was refurbished ThinkPad with 3rd generation of Core i5 processors, 8GB of RAM and 128GB of RAM. I had it when the seller had sales. I put 512GB Samsung SSD. It ran beautifully.

Whatever the case is, Apple was not first of the market, they steal the idea from someone and Apple folks will claim everyone else is the copycat. I call this ********.

 

[SactoGuy18]

I think the Apple Pencil support may ONLY be limited to the 6.5" iPhone coming this fall. And it will be likely more limited in function than Samsung's S-Pen, which drives a lot of the interface of the Galaxy Note phones.

 

[I7guy]

By your definition, Apple is copycat of copycat of copycat.

See I never said Apple invented fingerprint reader, mp3 player, facial recognition, nfc, mobile phone camera, oled or stylus. By your definition Samsung is a copycat of copycats as well, I’m okay with whatever you believe about Apple.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I don’t care if Apple copy loads of cool features off rivals as long as it makes my user experience better. I don’t need to justify it or have a conscience about it as a consumer.

 

[Shanghaichica]

By your definition, Apple is copycat of copycat of copycat.
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Yes. It was refurbished ThinkPad with 3rd generation of Core i5 processors, 8GB of RAM and 128GB of RAM. I had it when the seller had sales. I put 512GB Samsung SSD. It ran beautifully.

Whatever the case is, Apple was not first of the market, they steal the idea from someone and Apple folks will claim everyone else is the copycat. I call this ********.

Why did you buy such an old processor in 2016?

 

[err404]

I clearly wrote a modern smartphones.
Users here were crediting gestures as an Apple copy no problem for example. Why would this be different?

I don’t agree with that premise. The original Note arrived to close to an era where the stylus was already popular and mainstream on smartphones to be considered any sort of progenitor to the concept. But I will give credit to Samsung for carrying the torch over the last decade.
As for gestures. First ‘I’ wouldn’t credit Apple with creating the idea. Though it is hard to argue that Apple didn’t popularize and mainstream them.
Don’t get me wrong. I do miss a stylus from my WinCE PDA days. This has made the Note tempting to me for a long time. Therefore I would be excited to see more manufacturers pick it up.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I don’t agree with that premise. The original Note arrived to close to an era where the stylus was already popular and mainstream on smartphones to be considered any sort of progenitor to the concept. But I will give credit to Samsung for carrying the torch over the last decade.
As for gestures. First ‘I’ wouldn’t credit Apple with creating the idea. Though it is hard to argue that Apple didn’t popularize and mainstream them.
Don’t get me wrong. I do miss a stylus from my WinCE PDA days. This has made the Note tempting to me for a long time. Therefore I would be excited to see more manufacturers pick it up.

What guestures do you mean? The ones on the iPhone X?

 

[LovingTeddy]

Why did you buy such an old processor in 2016?

Because it is still a fast and capable processor for relative low price. It does all the things that i need to do, it does rendering 4K video as well. I don't need the most updated processor and for less than 300 dollars, it is good.
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I don’t care if Apple copy loads of cool features off rivals as long as it makes my user experience better. I don’t need to justify it or have a conscience about it as a consumer.

Then don't point finger to other when someone comes up things similar to Apple. Apple folks is known to be double standard.

 

[I7guy]

Because it is still a fast and capable processor for relative low price. It does all the things that i need to do, it does rendering 4K video as well. I don't need the most updated processor and for less than 300 dollars, it is good.
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Then don't point finger to other when someone comes up things similar to Apple. Apple folks is known to be double standard.

You need to straighten out the narrative. Samsung folks erroneously believe the company is leading the pack has copied virtually everything, imo. That there is a double standard. Apple at least Attempts to innovate.

 

[Mac 128]

If we only had the option of a headphone jack...

It’s not really the same thing. The iPhone can support the Pencil without compromising any other features.