Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil

[Hitrate]

Great, now make the MacBook Pro touch screen, thanks !
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It’s not really the same thing. The iPhone can support the Pencil without compromising any other features.

The headphone jack doesn't compromise any features, as documented right here !

 

[Flight Plan]

I feel like it’s inevitable. Maybe “Apple Pen” Lol.

I propose that the current Apple Pencil be renamed Apple Pen. It has no eraser, so it's a pen!

I have no interest in the pencil working on the phone... unless it can be kept inside the phone like the Samsung Note.

Even then, I don’t care for a pencil. Give mouse support on iPad!

I too would prefer internal storage for the pencil/pen device. Hey, maybe they could use the space they saved from getting rid of the headphone jack!

Buy a samsung then. Hang out on forums dedicated to samsung. I have now solved your problem. You're welcome.

It's not fair and it's not right to chase somebody away just because they're not a current user. We shouldn't do that, even if it DOES feel that they're a troll (which I didn't think is the case here; just saying).

And that leads me to this: I've noticed in this thread a lot of people are just dissing each other for not agreeing. And that thing several people said, "Apple people laughed hard when..." "Samsung people made fun of..."

My God, stop that, people! This tribalism is dumb. I hope for great products from BOTH Apple and Samsung, and from other makers too. So should you.
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There is no way that the pencil would be kept inside the phone. Just no way, even though I would like it that way. It's just opposite of Apple's design philosophy. On the other hand, they might make a case that would hold a (new, smaller) pencil, and third parties certainly would.

Actually, the Airpods are stored in their case, which doubles as an auxiliary battery. Storing the Apple Pencil inside of the device would allow for the possibility that the pencil could be charged by the main battery of the device, WITHOUT requiring that the pencil be plugged into the Lightning Port.

I have an iPad Pro and an Apple Pencil. I don't like having to plug the pencil into the Lightning port...always afraid I'll snap it off or break the port.

The main challenge, I would think, would be making room for the inductive charging components inside of the phone or iPad, and reducing the girth of the pencil so that it isn't thicker than the device it would have to slide into.

 

[Hitrate]

I have an iPad Pro and an Apple Pencil. I don't like having to plug the pencil into the Lightning port...always afraid I'll snap it off or break the port..

There, problem solved: https://www.google.dk/search?newwin...j0i7i30k1j0i7i5i30k1j0i8i7i30k1.0.wTEOyJpvTdY

 

[Zxxv]

Something else for women to put in their handbags. I think it'll be a hit.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Then don't point finger to other when someone comes up things similar to Apple. Apple folks is known to be double standard.

I don’t. I’m well aware how the industry works and am very guilty myself of copying others ideas in certain aspects of my work. All designers look at the competition and research how to closely copy without infringing patents.

I don’t view Apple vs Samsung as some kind of team allegiance like many here.

 

[PickUrPoison]

Great, now make the MacBook Pro touch screen, thanks !

The iPhone has always been touch screen, Pencil support doesn’t change that. MBP has never been touch screen, and never will be. Apple knows how slow and fatiguing it is to reach out to use touch on a notebook screen, compared to using the touch pad. It’s best for hands to stay near keyboard.

The headphone jack doesn't compromise any features, as documented right here !

There’s no room for that anymore, and Apple knew that even though they wouldn’t release the X until 2017. No bottom bezel means no headphone jack. You can be sure Apple has no intention of pushing the bottom bezel up a half-inch to accommodate a headphone jack.

 

[LovingTeddy]

You need to straighten out the narrative. Samsung folks erroneously believe the company is leading the pack has copied virtually everything, imo. That there is a double standard. Apple at least Attempts to innovate.

No no no. It is Apple folks believing the company is leading the pack and everyone is copying Apple as demonstrated in this thread.

 

[I7guy]

No no no. It is Apple folks believing the company is leading the pack and everyone is copying Apple as demonstrated in this thread.

Seems the other way around to me.

 

[LovingTeddy]

The iPhone has always been touch screen, Pencil support doesn’t change that. MBP has never been touch screen, and never will be. Apple knows how slow and fatiguing it is to reach out to use touch on a notebook screen, compared to using the touch pad. It’s best for hands to stay near keyboard.


There’s no room for that anymore, and Apple knew that even though they wouldn’t release the X until 2017. No bottom bezel means no headphone jack. You can be sure Apple has no intention of pushing the bottom bezel up a half-inch to accommodate a headphone jack.

Wrong. Take a look at Vivo Nex. This phone has even more screen to body ratio than iPhone and this phone has no notch. You know what, this phone has headphone jack on top of the phone.

Apple just doesn't want to put a headphone jack. They will instead charging you money for the dongle. You can be assure that if manufacture wants to put headphone jack in, they will figure out a way.

 

[BvizioN]

Samsung is the only company who's managed to successfully integrate a stylus into a modern smartphone. First launched in 2011, the S Pen has since become a staple of the Samsung Galaxy Note series. In fact, it is what makes a Note phone a Note.

He's saying that Apple will copy Samsung.

But he is wrong (and so are you)
Just because Samsung have successfully managed to integrate the stylus on a modern smartphones (and successful word could be argued) it does not mean that they created a stylus. Just like Apple did not create fingerprint scanner. Would you say Samy did copy fingerprint from Apple, since Touch ID was the first fingerprint scanner to be properly integraded into a a modern smartphone and work as it should, followed then by everyone else and their dogs? So really, when Apple perfects a certain tech (like multitouch screen or fingerprint scanner, or face recognition ) and others do follow, obviously these technologies have existed before and Apple is not the first! However, when we have a Samy and it's Note stylus, Apple is copying? Seriously, isn't this just hilarious ?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

No no no. It is Apple folks believing the company is leading the pack and everyone is copying Apple as demonstrated in this thread.

There’s a fair bit of childish bickering about that on both sides in this thread to be honest. It only seems to be in the internet these days where people argue over such things. As long as my iPhone has useful features I don’t care who came up with it first.

 

[I7guy]

Wrong. Take a look at Vivo Nex. This phone has even more screen to body ratio than iPhone and this phone has no notch. You know what, this phone has headphone jack on top of the phone.

Apple just doesn't want to put a headphone jack. They will instead charging you money for the dongle. You can be assure that if manufacture wants to put headphone jack in, they will figure out a way.

The vivid hex uses a jammable pop up camera and doesn’t have faceid technology. I’d rather have the notch.

 

[FFR]

Wrong. Take a look at Vivo Nex. This phone has even more screen to body ratio than iPhone and this phone has no notch. You know what, this phone has headphone jack on top of the phone.

Apple just doesn't want to put a headphone jack. They will instead charging you money for the dongle. You can be assure that if manufacture wants to put headphone jack in, they will figure out a way.

Who cares about screen to body ratio?


The Vivo nex has Nasty chin, why is everyone ignoring that?

 

[LovingTeddy]

The vivid hex uses a jammable pop up camera and doesn’t have faceid technology. I’d rather have the notch.

We are not talking about faceID or anything. We are taking about possibility of headphone jack.

Notch is ugly as f**k, at least Android OEMs allow you hide notch with software trick. And I get you rather want have whatever the s**t Apple make, but not everyone will do that.

This pop up camera is seriously great, i rather want this than the stupid notch.
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Who cares about screen to body ratio?


The Vivo nex has Nasty chin, why is everyone ignoring that?

Vivo Nex has no notch and headphone jack. This beats iPhone X hands down.

P.S if you look at it, iPhone X ugly notch and top is bezel is really think as well. iPhone X does have thinner chin, but overall Vivo Nex has better bezel than iPhone X. Not having notch is priceless.

 

[FFR]

We are not talking about faceID or anything. We are taking about possibility of headphone jack.

Notch is ugly as f**k, at least Android OEMs allow you hide notch with software trick. And I get you rather want have whatever the s**t Apple make, but not everyone will do that.

This pop up camera is seriously great, i rather want this than the stupid notch.
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Vivo Nex has no notch and headphone jack. This beats iPhone X hands down.

P.S if you look at it, iPhone X ugly notch and top is bezel is really think as well. iPhone X does have thinner chin, but overall Vivo Nex has better bezel than iPhone X. Not having notch is priceless.

You don’t make any sense.

If you flip the iPhone X the notch still takes up less apace then the vivos chin.

Maybe I’m missing something?

 

[LovingTeddy]

You don’t make any sense.

If you flip the iPhone X the notch still takes up less apace then the vivos chin.

Maybe I’m missing something?

I was talking about the notch does occupying some screen realest. If you draw the line from the bottom of the notch and cross the screen, the top chin is very thick.

Vivo Nex does have bigger chin, because the front camera is there. The bottom chin does not occupying any screen realest.

Vivo Nex have over all bigger screen body ratio and it is true almost all screen phone where iPhone X has this stupid notch that you cannot ignore.

 

[I7guy]

We are not talking about faceID or anything. We are taking about possibility of headphone jack.

Notch is ugly as f**k, at least Android OEMs allow you hide notch with software trick. And I get you rather want have whatever the s**t Apple make, but not everyone will do that.

This pop up camera is seriously great, i rather want this than the stupid notch.
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Vivo Nex has no notch and headphone jack. This beats iPhone X hands down.

P.S if you look at it, iPhone X ugly notch and top is bezel is really think as well. iPhone X does have thinner chin, but overall Vivo Nex has better bezel than iPhone X. Not having notch is priceless.

You are discussing a phone, that supposedly looks better than the iPhone but solves issues in a worse way and in the end the iPhone still looks better. The pop up camera is a ****ing abomination and still lacks Face ID and wireless charging.

 

[FFR]

I was talking about the notch does occupying some screen realest. If you draw the line from the bottom of the notch and cross the screen, the top chin is very thick.

Vivo Nex does have bigger chin, because the front camera is there. The bottom chin does not occupying any screen realest.

Vivo Nex have over all bigger screen body ratio and it is true almost all screen phone where iPhone X has this stupid notch that you cannot ignore.

I don’t seem to follow your logic.

If you flip the iPhone X, where the notch is on the bottom, it actually has more display less chin than the Vivo nex or the oppo find.

Am I missing something?

 

[LovingTeddy]

You are discussing a phone, that supposedly looks better than the iPhone but solves issues in a worse way and in the end the iPhone still looks better. The pop up camera is a ****ing abomination and still lacks Face ID and wireless charging.

Looks better or not is subjective. You seems to think anything Apple made look better.

The notch is ugly. The notch alone is making not buy for me. I like the idea of pop up camera, at least it doesn't follow the trend of copying stupid notch system. I could not care less about FaceID. The Nex has under screen fingerprint sensor which works reasonably well. I take fingerprint censor than Face unlock any day.

And talking about wireless charging. Aren't you Apple folks denounce wireless charging for years? Because it is not true wireless charging and it is pointless if one have to lay down the phone? Apple folks seems to switch side when Apple announce this pointless feature? All the sudden wireless charging is important? Talking about double standard.

 

[I7guy]

Looks better or not is subjective. You seems to think anything Apple made look better.

The notch is ugly. The notch alone is making not buy for me. I like the idea of pop up camera, at least it doesn't follow the trend of copying stupid notch system. I could not care less about FaceID. The Nex has under screen fingerprint sensor which works reasonably well. I take fingerprint censor than Face unlock any day.

And talking about wireless charging. Aren't you Apple folks denounce wireless charging for years? Because it is not true wireless charging and it is pointless if one have to lay down the phone? Apple folks seems to switch side when Apple announce this pointless feature? All the sudden wireless charging is important? Talking about double standard.

As you say, looks are subjective and you seem to dislike anything apple does. So there is that. The pop-up camera is something to jam and I want a face id implementation. Different strokes for different folks.

You Samsung folks like to discuss how android has everything and apple is late to the game. Not having wireless charging is a serious omission by android folks standards, when lesser android phones have included it. You android folks ought to get together and at least get your story straight.

 

[FFR]

As you say, looks are subjective and you seem to dislike anything apple does. So there is that. The pop-up camera is something to jam and I want a face id implementation. Different strokes for different folks.

You Samsung folks like to discuss how android has everything and apple is late to the game. Not having wireless charging is a serious omission by android folks standards, when lesser android phones have included it. You android folks ought to get together and at least get your story straight.

I wonder what would happen if the s10 had a notch?

The pixel fans don’t seem to mind.

 

[I7guy]

I wonder what would happen if the s10 had a notch?

The pixel fans don’t seem to mind.

All that biometric electronics has to go somewhere. These phone designers have various and creative ways to fit the components in the chassis using notches, chins and pop-up cameras. You pick what you floats your boat.

The pixel 2 has some character and looks better than a generic android type slab phone.

 

[Hitrate]

The notch is ugly as f... but testament to how eager to consume the consumer mass is, and how easily brain and eyewashed into thinking all of a sudden such a design failure is cool, they are - obviously going so far as to defend it, especially after they've purchased said device...Ah the naivity and gullibility of human kind never ceases to amaze me.

 

[I7guy]

The notch is ugly as f... but testament to how eager to consume the consumer mass is, and how easily brain and eyewashed into thinking all of a sudden such a design failure is cool, they are - obviously going so far as to defend it, especially after they've purchased said device...Ah the naivity and gullibility of human kind never ceases to amaze me.

Let's get this straight. You don't like the notch, and therefore the consumer mass is "brain and eye washed" into thinking it's cool? That is sure some sound logic right there.

 

[Abazigal]

I propose that the current Apple Pencil be renamed Apple Pen. It has no eraser, so it's a pen!

Not all pencils come with erasers, and even pens come with erasers these days.

And for the past two years, I have only charged my Apple Pencil via my iPad’s lightning port. It’s convenient, requires no additional accessories and works way better than many critics give it credit for, IMO.

I really don’t understand the criticism surrounding this.