Awesome!! Can’t wait for the Samsung commercials showing people dropping their pencils and trying to figure out how to carry them and such. Then cutting to the Note and showing the stylus being slid effortlessly in and out of its holder.
Apple's second-generation iPhone X, and a widely expected 6.5-inch model dubbed the iPhone X Plus, will both be compatible with the Apple Pencil, according to Taiwanese publication Economic Daily News.
The report, citing "industry insiders," claims that Apple Pencil support will be limited to those OLED models, meaning that Apple's upcoming lower-cost 6.1-inch iPhone with an LCD will not work with the drawing tool. Taiwanese research firm TrendForce shared the same prediction earlier this week.
Apple Pencil launched in November 2015 alongside the original 12.9-inch iPad Pro, and it works with all other iPad Pro models released since. Last March, Apple expanded the tool's compatibility to the new sixth-generation iPad, a lower-cost, 9.7-inch model targeted at students and the classroom.
If these rumors prove to be true, this would be the first time Apple releases its own stylus for the iPhone in the device's 11-year history.
When introducing the original iPhone in 2007, Apple's late co-founder Steve Jobs quipped that "nobody wants a stylus" with a smartphone, but Apple has played the semantics game in insisting that the Apple Pencil is a drawing tool. It's also been over a decade since Jobs made that comment--things change.
It's unclear if Apple will release a smaller Pencil for the iPhone, as the current version could be rather unwieldy for use with an iPhone. Apple has yet to update the Pencil's design since it first launched three years ago.
A stylus on a mobile device is nothing new, but only a handful of modern smartphones have one, including the Samsung Galaxy Note with the S Pen, which can be used to draw on the screen, handwrite notes, annotate documents, and more.
Designed to mimic the feel and sensation of using a pen or a pencil, the Apple Pencil has built-in sensors to determine orientation and angle, and to detect a range of forces for pressure-sensitive drawing and writing. On the iPad Pro, the Apple Pencil is sampled at 240Hz for minimal latency.
Apple is expected to unveil a trio of new iPhones at its usual September event at Steve Jobs Theater, and Apple Pencil support would surely be a headline feature if true. A new Apple Pencil altogether is certainly a possibility too.
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I am fine with them adding support for it, although I don't think it would sell any more phones. A stylus on a phone is just awkward and very 90's to me. I have the pencil for my iPad Pro, never use it, and wouldn't for my iPhone either. For those that want the support though, glad it's coming.
First person to make a mock up of the pencil charging out the bottom of an iPhone wins the internet for today
It needs to be a mini pencil and they need to have a case ready that holds phone and pencil. $79 for pencil and $59 for case based on Apple pricing history.
Let's just put this to rest once and for all.
What Jobs was arguing was that if your device requires a stylus to operate, you've failed. Obviously an iPhone doesn't require a stylus to use the interface. You use your fingers. But of course sketching and drawing with your fingers is crude, and you need something more delicate and precise. A pencil.
This is nothing but natural evolution.
They've perfected the touch interface, and now they are moving on to the next step.
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Nah, they will be fine. Nobody jumps that easily between the phone ecosystems anymore -- the investments have become too high, the learning curves too steep.
Besides, Apple would have to REALLY pull this off and add A LOT of features to the iPhone to get Galaxy Note users to really think about jumping ship. Handwriting recognition through the keyboard application? Easy drawing on any photo; "translating" hand-drawn diagrams into properly formatted technical drawings -- a lot of things like that. Samsung focused A LOT on business/technical users with their S-PEN -- which is a different target audience than the one Apple has been mainly looking at.
I remember that especially here on this forum people have always been making silly remarks about the Samsung Galaxy Note -- first about the size of the phone, then about the tablet. But now that Apple has cloned all of those features that - according to this forum - nobody would ever want, we're back to how Apple totally re-invented all these things in "the right" way.
In the meantime, the rest of the world out there is now buying 200 to 300 Euro Chinese import phones like Xiaomi Mi A2 or the Huawei Honor series and enjoys high-end features and high-end performance for mid-range prices.
Some people say that the smartphone market has "matured" - similar to the PC market back in the day. Others would simply call it "saturated" or would say that it "has reached the end of innovation". (And yes, while AR and VR might be big things, they won't be happening on smartphones in a big way -- at least not with the smartphone as the main consumption device; it will probably just be the computer powering the rest of the necessary wearables.)
The iPad 9.7 didn't get a 120Hz screen along with Pencil support, just the faster Pencil polling (X already has 120Hz finger polling).
Remember this is a unconfirmed rumor. It is Apple rumor season after all.
It does not make sense logically to enable Apple Pencil capability. On second thought, the idiots who think there is going to be a iPad mini refresh, the 6.5iphone could be thought of as their mini, or what the rest of us will call, a phablet, I can see the pencil being desired. They are the minority and it still does not make sense.
I can already see Samsung making fun of the pencil sticking out of the Lightning port (which actually is stupid indeed). Personally, I don‘t see the point on a phone, but if there are people who want to use, it’s fine.
I don’t use Excel but Apples version called Numbers works fine on the iPad so does Pages, Word and even things like iMovie.
Yea they do you are correct but the iPad is a better form factor for some, for example my dad has my 2015 iPad Pro and it’s his only computer, it replaced a crappy cheap plastic Windows laptop that he was using, he’s much more happy with the iPad.
My mum also uses an iPad, my old iPad Air 2, granted it’s not for anything heavy but she doesn’t need a PC or laptop.
The overall point is that the iPad can replace a laptop/PC for some people, in fact the iPad Pro is pretty impressive, I use my Pro with apps like Affinity Photo and Pixelmator. Adobe is releasing a full version of Photoshop for the iPad next year.
Not everyone is going to be able to replace those laptop with an iPad, some people require lots of power and that’s why they buy machines like the iMac Pro, Macbook Pro and so on.
Personally I like to use both iPad Pro and Mac simply because I love MacOS it is the best OS in my opinion.
Well, "things change"... however here it's not just things what has changed, but the focus, the targets, everything. And it has happened because back in 2007, Apple was the best computer maker, targeting either professionals or youth learning to become professionals, while nowadays is mainly a service provider targeting teens. Then, of course, the goals, the focus, the targets... everything has changed.
I have 2 iPad Pro's and never wanted to use my Apple Pencil with my iPhone but hey ho, another device supporting it isn't a bad thing, I'd have preferred a new giant Apple magic track pad that supported it like a wacom tablet though.
All the X needs is an annual spec bump and a price cut, the rest of the lineup needs all the attention.
All the X needs is an annual spec bump and a price cut, the rest of the lineup needs all the attention.
What you say seems plausible, until you read the following posts earlier by someone that uses the Note, in quotes:
"If Apple were to add "pencil support", it would in no way provide the great experience you get with a Samsung Note. Here are a few reasons:
- The form factor of the Apple Pencil isn't going to work with a phone... and I doubt they are going to create a smaller pencil. The S-Pen is the result of years of use and is a great form factor for use with a Smartphone.
- I seriously doubt that Apple is going to create a silo for it in the iPhone. Without the silo, you lose a lot of the convenience. You have to place to safely store it. You have no way to keep it charged. And more importantly you have no easy way to trigger the iPhone that you want to use it. When you pull the S-Pen out of the Note's silo, it triggers a selector to pop up that gives you single tap access to all the pen enabled functions you'd want to use. For me, I can get to OneNote in one click, as well as all the other apps I use the Spen with.
- There are no pen enabled apps for iOS... so initially it would be pretty awkward and I doubt there'd be much support developed unless they solved some of the other issues.
- One of the greatest features of the Note is the ability to take notes on the screen without even turning the device on. If you take the Spen out of the silo while the Note is turned off, you can immediately write on the screen. Anyone that doesn't get the convenience of this is just being a fanboy and unable to see good aspects of other brands. I used to take notes on little slips of paper all the time in a pinch. Now I do it on the Note. I'm running to the grocery story and my wife wants to tell me what to get. I pop out the SPen and write it on the screen.
So just giving the iPhone support for Apple Pencil won't really accomplish anything in my opinion."
- The form factor of the Apple Pencil isn't going to work with a phone... and I doubt they are going to create a smaller pencil. The S-Pen is the result of years of use and is a great form factor for use with a Smartphone.
- I seriously doubt that Apple is going to create a silo for it in the iPhone. Without the silo, you lose a lot of the convenience. You have to place to safely store it. You have no way to keep it charged. And more importantly you have no easy way to trigger the iPhone that you want to use it. When you pull the S-Pen out of the Note's silo, it triggers a selector to pop up that gives you single tap access to all the pen enabled functions you'd want to use. For me, I can get to OneNote in one click, as well as all the other apps I use the Spen with.
- There are no pen enabled apps for iOS... so initially it would be pretty awkward and I doubt there'd be much support developed unless they solved some of the other issues.
- One of the greatest features of the Note is the ability to take notes on the screen without even turning the device on. If you take the Spen out of the silo while the Note is turned off, you can immediately write on the screen. Anyone that doesn't get the convenience of this is just being a fanboy and unable to see good aspects of other brands. I used to take notes on little slips of paper all the time in a pinch. Now I do it on the Note. I'm running to the grocery story and my wife wants to tell me what to get. I pop out the SPen and write it on the screen.
So just giving the iPhone support for Apple Pencil won't really accomplish anything in my opinion."
The posts in here are typically, now, one-sided and childish. The post above is an exception.
What he said, makes sense to me.
Companies had them before Apple. Amstrad http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=876 , AT&T EO Communicator and IBM ThinkPad Tablet (October 1992).
Sadly it’s not likely.
I fear the larger iPhone is going to replace the mini. I’m thrilled Pencil support is coming to the phone, but I don’t want to carry a 6.5” phone to get it, and I’d find a mini far more useful.
So I’m afraid this won’t meet my needs.
I think a more important point (over saving space by removing headphone jack) is that it would be really dumb to add a slot for a stylus when the majority of people would never use it.
I, for one, would be psyched to have Apple Pencil support, particularly with a Plus sized screen. I will never go back to dinky screens.
The Apple Pencil is great for taking notes particularly if you augment them with sketches. Taking notes on a laptop sux.
The Apple Pencil is great for taking notes particularly if you augment them with sketches. Taking notes on a laptop sux.
To be honest, I really don't get this. The Pencil is just so big to use on a smaller screen. It makes sense on the iPad Pro, what with the larger surface area. There will be no place to put it (unlike the Note) and it's not like it's there for easy access note taking when out and about.
Apart from look how huge the pencil is. It will require separate storage.
