Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil

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1993 just popping by to say hello

The context is 'who wants to have to use a stylus in order to operate a phone? You've got to get them out, put them away, you lose them - yeurgh. So we designed a phone you can use with your fingers'

An iPhone with Pencil support doesn't detract from Jobs' stance as it is not essential to operate the device.

 

[gaximus]

The phones are getting bigger and bigger every year, and now possible Apple Pencil support. It's just another step closer to phone functionality on the iPad. 10-15 years from now, apple will just make one mobile device that consolidates all the current ones, lol.

No they won't, 10 years ago, they had one product per category, now they are all about making more products per category. Used to be 1 iPhone a year, then 2, now 3 (according to the rumors).

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

"It is actually a good thing to have a choice." right it's great isn't it?

Now for MacBooks let's strip out all ports, squeeze in a subpar keyboard (old one was too good), solder everything inside a fanless chasis and include the wielding machine as accessory for just an extra $699. Courage.

Why would they want to do that?

If you think that is what Apple HAS done, then you are sadly mistaken.

 

[Swift]

What was the "stylus" that he said no to? The Windows phones of the day used a stylus. What for? So they could run a mini-windows on their screens, and you needed the pencil to choose the menus on their stupid screens. That's right, you couldn't use it with your fingers. So, introducing a phone you didn't need a stylus to use was revolutionary.

If a stylus is available to work on the new iPhone, it will be working on a genuine multi-touch screen that you'd only need a stylus for for handwriting recognition or drawing, not for the making the phone do what you want. (Okay, maybe there will be some commands you could execute with the stylus as well, but first you'd have to be able to do it with fingers, or by using Siri.)

Jobs was never making commandments. He was making design decisions about a moment in time. It isn't changed by an Apple Pencil that works with the iPhone. It makes the iPhone also function as a note-taker and a sketch pad. Are you ever urged to sign your name on an iPhone screen with your fingers? It's a legal "mark", but it's not good at all at being verified as your signature. If somebody has your phone, they can scrawl anything you want. But if you do that a lot, now you could put your actual signature on that screen in a way that id you much better.

 

[pat500000]

This is just like note 9 with ios...geesh

 

[gaximus]

Everyone quoting Steve but are vastly overlooking the “you have to get ‘em you put ‘em away you lose ‘em” part. At least the Note has the pen built in for you to slot it back in and has functionality immediately ready with their software when you pull it out which is part of its appeal in the first place. The iPhone won’t have that because Apple won’t create space for it inside their phone when they remove headphone jacks to save that precious space. With the pencil you will be more likely to lose it because of this, also it most likely won’t have the same useful functionality as the Note anyway.

Steve jobs was referring to the built in slot for styluses. All devices back then that used a stylus, had a slot for them.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

This is actually smart on Apple's part.

Apple iPhone Pencil support will probably be of little focus, but the support is good enough to push more iPhone users to the iPads that support the Pencil. I believe once users try the Pencil on the iPhone, a percentage will want to upgrade their iPad to one with Pencil support.

Pencil support on the iPhone will not be comparable to the S-Pen on Note phones. And I don't think that's Apple's true reason behind it.

 

[GuruZac]

First person to make a mock up of the pencil charging out the bottom of an iPhone wins the internet for today

 

[pipis2010]

Apple's second-generation iPhone X, and a widely expected 6.5-inch model dubbed the iPhone X Plus, will both be compatible with the Apple Pencil, according to Taiwanese publication Economic Daily News.

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The report, citing "industry insiders," claims that Apple Pencil support will be limited to those OLED models, meaning that Apple's upcoming lower-cost 6.1-inch iPhone with an LCD will not work with the drawing tool. Taiwanese research firm TrendForce shared the same prediction earlier this week.

Apple Pencil launched in November 2015 alongside the original 12.9-inch iPad Pro, and it works with all other iPad Pro models released since. Last March, Apple expanded the tool's compatibility to the new sixth-generation iPad, a lower-cost, 9.7-inch model targeted at students and the classroom.

If these rumors prove to be true, this would be the first time Apple releases its own stylus for the iPhone in the device's 11-year history.

When introducing the original iPhone in 2007, Apple's late co-founder Steve Jobs quipped that "nobody wants a stylus" with a smartphone, but Apple has played the semantics game in insisting that the Apple Pencil is a drawing tool. It's also been over a decade since Jobs made that comment--things change.

It's unclear if Apple will release a smaller Pencil for the iPhone, as the current version could be rather unwieldy for use with an iPhone. Apple has yet to update the Pencil's design since it first launched three years ago.

A stylus on a mobile device is nothing new, but only a handful of modern smartphones have one, including the Samsung Galaxy Note with the S Pen, which can be used to draw on the screen, handwrite notes, annotate documents, and more.

Designed to mimic the feel and sensation of using a pen or a pencil, the Apple Pencil has built-in sensors to determine orientation and angle, and to detect a range of forces for pressure-sensitive drawing and writing. On the iPad Pro, the Apple Pencil is sampled at 240Hz for minimal latency.

Apple is expected to unveil a trio of new iPhones at its usual September event at Steve Jobs Theater, and Apple Pencil support would surely be a headline feature if true. A new Apple Pencil altogether is certainly a possibility too.

Article Link: Another Report Says Second-Generation iPhone X and iPhone X Plus Will Support Apple Pencil

No point until Apps are allowed to support it.

If Apple supports it all apps will support it too

 

[gugy]

I’ve got an Apple Pencil couple years ago for my iPad Pro. Honestly, I barely use it. If I was an illustrator or taking tons of notes I could be loving it but IMO for regular use is just not great.
Now on an iPhone, I’m not sure makes too much sense but I know it’s great for some people but for me, not much. Either way better have that option than not.

 

[44267547]

The fact that this Apple Pencil support might be an option, is excellent. It’s not a requirement to use the phone or have to purchase, it’s an accessory likely sold separately. So it won’t affect any iPhone users who don’t appreciate to have Apple Pencil support and for those who do, now they will likely have that option if this rumor proves to be true, which I hope it is.

 

[koa]

John Wick would use a pencil.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

also it most likely won’t have the same useful functionality as the Note anyway.

And how, oh wise and beneficent Oracle, do you know WHAT its capabilities will or won't be?

 

[pat500000]

I’m laughing here because people ople think they know steve better.....lol

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

LOL. No stylus! We invented multi-touch! 40 second video with all sorts of wrong. Stylus is back and Apple did not invent multi-touch.

Maybe not; but they took Multi-Touch from a laboratory tech-demo into a mainstream product with over a BILLION units in the field.

 

[[AUT] Thomas]

yeah... that's useless if you don't have it with you, because it doesn't fit in the phone. And while Samsung fits the S-Pen, Apple doesn't even fit a 3,5mm jack.

Also, I don't see why the LCD iPhone shouldn't support it... that be a stupid decision by Apple, as they could at least make money with the Pencil (which costs a fortune). Nevermind... 2018 Apple might be ignorant enough...

 

[Azeroth1]

I have no use for this “feature” on my iPhone.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Plus...any sub-300 laptop can do whatever you motioned just fine and do much more than iPad.

Including running Windows 10, Spyware Edition.

No thanks.

 

[Internet Enzyme]

I just want the improved refresh rate that hopefully comes along with the pencil support!

That would be another way of differentiating the iPhone X variants from its budget iPhone counterpart. Having a 120 hz display would make those phones feel instantly more smooth and responsive. A truly major spec update that would put the iPhone X above the rest of the industry

 

[WatchFromAfar]

Yeah I thought this but if they are charging these phones for 1k+ and selling them as premium devices then why would they have the last gen version of Pencil support (in other words no ProMotion)? The only reason the 9.7” iPad doesn’t have it was to make it more affordable and that is a low-cost device at £319 not 1k. I don’t see why Apple would skimp out on something like that for a phone costing so much that is supposed to pack the latest tech, wouldn’t they want it matching the latest iPad Pros which are a year old at this point? Then again it also wouldn’t surprise me if today’s Apple did cheap out on it but at least there’s some hope now anyway.

But it is the latest tech; it's the first time Apple Pencil works on an OLED screen. If people think it's going to be the first time Apple Pencil works on an OLED screen AND the screen will be ProMotion then they are away with the fairies; that's the type of thing Apple does over iterations.

Maybe next year.

 

[TonnyM]

Apple Pencil is not a stylus. Apple will never build a stylus for iPhone cause multitouch on iOS is super accurate and you don’t need one. Apple may add a pencil for artists and people who like to drawer sketch like on iPad , this is sth completely different.

 

[Constable Odo]

I see nothing wrong with having an optional way of inputting data. I won't be using a stylus but it's good for those who want to use one. What Samsung has done with the Note is a good thing as the stylus is built-in. Note 9 users don't have to carry around some bulky afterthought of a stylus that will easily get lost or misplaced. Samsung obviously likes to keep all basis covered which can be a good or bad thing. At least Samsung a nice assortment of high-end smartphone devices which consumers can choose from although it could be somewhat confusing choice for many consumers.

 

[The Game 161]

I have no use for this “feature” on my iPhone.

Then don’t use it...

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Oh, right. iOS can't do that -- every Android device can... Somebody at Apple missed that "little" feature that would turn the "iPad into a computer; and not like a computer"...

Nobody at Apple "Missed" ANYTHING; it was a CONSCIOUS choice. Apple (rightly) stated that an OS created for Finger-Input is ill-served with a Mouse. They are completely different paradigms.

But, BTW, Bluetooth KEYBOARDS work GREAT on iOS. Just not mice. It is completely possible to use an iPad with a Keyboard (in fact, my iPad case has a built-in BT keyboard (that I never use!)), and do your minimal clicking with the Touch interface.

And before anyone turns that into a diatribe about why we should have a Touchscreen Mac, it is entirely different. An iPad sitting in your lap, 4 inches from your face is just DIFFERENT from a laptop. It just is.

 

[Jsameds]

The context is 'who wants to have to use a stylus in order to operate a phone? You've got to get them out, put them away, you lose them - yeurgh. So we designed a phone you can use with your fingers'

An iPhone with Pencil support doesn't detract from Jobs' stance as it is not essential to operate the device.

lol 1993 vs 2007