Antenna is still an issue even with Verizon iPhone, NOT HAPPY!!!!!!

[gdjsnyder]

no, You fanboys are all alike, so quick to defend apple when this issue does exist for a lot of people,,, but when I dial the call with 3-4 bars, then I drop the call while I am on it, it's at 1 bar.

I shot a quick video, Holding the phone in my left hand as I would as if it's against my ear, you can see the bars drop to 1, I let go towards the end of the video and they shoot back up. This time the call didn't drop but my previous test the call failed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapJbaeDSWQ

My point is proven: 1. You were bear hugging that phone with your palm, people usually don't do that when on a call, I usually see people holding their phones with their fingers, as I do, lightly. 2. You didn't lose complete service. Your bars dropped, it's called attenuation and happens when in weak signal areas. 3. That call didn't drop, so if you weren't bear hugging it with your palm, it also would have been fine.

 

[BriChi]

and if you read my previous post

Im not tightly squeezing it, its the same hold as if it was against my left ear resting in my palm, In the video I held it a little tighter because it drops a lot quicker the tighter you hold it, the video was long and boring enough, didn't want it to take any longer. Amazing though how I can do the same grip on all the other previous iphone and my Droid Inc and the signal does not budge, BUT CLEARLY THERE IS NO ISSUE HERE

 

[JNO4]

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Thanx I look like the only wierdo laughing at my phone from that comment. LOL!

 

[ctbear]

How can people so quickly defend Apple when the signal greatly degrades, for a lot of people like the OP?
At least the OP isn't holding the phone in an extremely weird way. I can safely assume that lots of people hold it the same way when talking.
Yes attenuation happens in most phones, but the reason why it is so big on iPhone is that Apple is stupid enough to place that spot at where most people would touch.
This, combined with congested network in big cities, can result in frequent call drops.

 

[dwguertin]

With 1 finger-Consumers Reports and Engadget agree

Not sure why some phone do it and some don't? Quality control issue with the radio chips? Here is what Consumer Reports and Engadget found. I'm going to get a bumper for mine because, it looks like Apple is not giving them out anymore.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/

 

[saving107]

Its funny how I went to bed last night it being February 2011, and woke up in June 2010.

Maybe I should go back to bed.

OP, I'll sum up the summer of 2010 for you. Yes, this affects some (not just the iPhone, but every phone), but not all, get a case or get a refund.

Next on the list of Complaints for this forum, Proximity Sensor Issues.

 

[killahbee]

Yep, I've had the AT&T iPhone 4 since launch and I've got this issue. The problem is the cheap free bumper apple sent me tore apart, so the past few months I've been bumper less so I've noticed more and more dropped calls.

I really really really just want to get rid of the phone and get another one at this point. I'm so frustrated with it. And the problem is, while in my house, this antenna issue is so sensitive.

Edit: I dunno about the whole "this happens to every phone" thing. Before the iP4, I had the 3G for two years. It was the best phone I have ever owned. Never ever did I drop calls at this rate, or notice me gripping the phone a certain way cause to degrade signal.

 

[mo25]

I can confirm, I am also having the death grib issue.

 

[tsolt]

My phone works great, No problem with my verizon iphone. sorry for the luck-

 

[possumwater]

I hold all of my cell phones with 3 fingers. If I hold it with all 5 it shouldn't do that...but I don't put my palm on the rear of the speaker. I don't know if these people with dropped calls are holding it like they are a 2nd grader or if its as bad as they say. Either way, i'll be ok bc I'm going to use a bumper anyhow bc I don't want to damage my phone when I set it down. (Plan on doing the SGP version of the bumper

 

[Vanarak19]

It amazes me that people still BUY a device even after they "dont accept" a flaw.

Be responsible. Its sad its not fixed, but why should it be. It will be in Ip5.

Or return the phone.

Again, not siding with apple, but come on. Its a flaw.

 

[Moyank24]

How can people so quickly defend Apple when the signal greatly degrades, for a lot of people like the OP?
At least the OP isn't holding the phone in an extremely weird way. I can safely assume that lots of people hold it the same way when talking.
Yes attenuation happens in most phones, but the reason why it is so big on iPhone is that Apple is stupid enough to place that spot at where most people would touch.
This, combined with congested network in big cities, can result in frequent call drops.

I think we can all agree that this problem affects some of these phones. But as the poster above said, this isn't June 2010 anymore. The problem has been well documented...the OP seems as if he is surprised...It's a chance you take when you are purchasing the phone.

Stick a bumper on the thing and enjoy the heck out of it.

 

[jw nyc]

Not sure why some phone do it and some don't? Here is what Consumer Reports and Engadget found. I'm going to get a bumper for mine because, it looks like Apple is not giving them out anymore. Quality control issue with the radio chips?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/

I have yet to see someone's signal drop by more than 1 bar (MAX) with only one finger on the antenna.

 

[ctbear]

I think we can all agree that this problem affects some of these phones. But as the poster above said, this isn't June 2010 anymore. The problem has been well documented...the OP seems as if he is surprised...It's a chance you take when you are purchasing the phone.

Stick a bumper on the thing and enjoy the heck out of it.

I know what you mean... I do have the same issue but I've learned to deal with it (with a skin)
What I was trying to express was how people just blindly dismissed the OP's frustration and claimed that it was never an issue at all.

 

[JD914]

How is it "still" an issue, when it never was an issue?

You gotta be kidding me right? The issue is VERY real

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD188LlRBGM

 

[Apollo 13]

I can get my phone to drop down to 1 bar and that's it. I hold my phone near the bottom part of the phone and do with all my phones. Also when browsing the net I hold the phone in a death grip type of way, but it still never goes lower then 1 bar.

 

[JD914]

I can still reproduce this on my ATT iPhone 4. Only when literally squeezing the phone like I'm trying to choke it though.

It happens to me all the time and at a full signal, my signal drops to "searching" without even trying.

I can't believe you still have a few *******s still denying that there was never a problem

 

[VforVelveta]

I really don't think most people understand the true problem with the antenna. Holding the phone and seeing bars drop does not necessarily indicate a problem. NO antenna can stop your hand from absorbing the energy of the received signal. If you cover the antenna on any phone, your signal will drop, but you may not see it unless you're looking at the signal strength in dB, not "bars."

The problem the iPhone 4 has is, in addition to your hand covering the antenna, it seems the antenna is de-tuned a bit by bridging the cell antenna with the wifi antenna, which adds a bit more attenuation. So, unless you compare the attenuation across several different phones in dB, no one can really say anything definitively.

I'm not saying there isn't an issue, and in fact I think the antenna does suffer from added attenuation, but "my bars dropped" is a completely useless statement, especially with a sample size of 1.

 

[NWI73]

Just return the phone and go back to your "other" smartphone.

 

[JD914]

It amazes me that people still BUY a device even after they "dont accept" a flaw.

Be responsible. Its sad its not fixed, but why should it be. It will be in Ip5.

Or return the phone.

Again, not siding with apple, but come on. Its a flaw.

I do have to agree with you, an external antenna design was a major flop for Apple and for Verizon people to come here complaining about this problem is absurd.

iPhone 4 is flawed hardware wise so do not complain if you get dropped due to this design defect.

 

[tjb1]

Its the SAME iPhone 4 with a CDMA chip, why would you expect them to fix it? Buy a bumper and stop whining about it, its not a new phone, its the same phone on a new provider.

 

[Johnny Gilligan]

How can you see the bars with the phone next to your ear? Are you a flounder?

Stop it!!! I just broke into laughter while sitting alone at my desk and now they know I'm not working!!!

 

[HitchHykr]

no, You fanboys are all alike, so quick to defend apple when this issue does exist for a lot of people,,, but when I dial the call with 3-4 bars, then I drop the call while I am on it, it's at 1 bar.

I shot a quick video, Holding the phone in my left hand as I would as if it's against my ear, you can see the bars drop to 1, I let go towards the end of the video and they shoot back up. This time the call didn't drop but my previous test the call failed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapJbaeDSWQ

OK, Flounder, I make a joke about how you can see sideways and I get labeled as a "fan boy". Didn't know flounders had such low tolerances.

 

[JD914]

fyi guys, I just activated my new iPhone, called my wife, held the phone in my left hand to my ear as I normally do with the Incredible, signal dropped down to 1 bar and dropped call, I "may" get a bumper or simply return it and wait to see if they fix this in June.... So disappointed in Apple

It's an iPhone 4, it's supposed to do that

 

[BriChi]

Its the SAME iPhone 4 with a CDMA chip, why would you expect them to fix it? Buy a bumper and stop whining about it, its not a new phone, its the same phone on a new provider.

because people were stating that being that there was 4 cutouts now around the antenna, that they may have "shifted" where the antenna lays therefore holding the bottom like that will not drop a call