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VERY good information. I was going to switch from Cingular to Verizon to hopefully fix this problem. Thanks for the update. Let us know if you get better service or less dropped calls. Sucks to know you still have to hold your phone a certain way.:eek:

Why do people still call At&t Cingular?
 
dude it looks like your holding on that thing for dear life!

But in all seriousness, i cannot reproduce the signal issue. Might be your phone. Try and exchange it or get a bumper and move along.
 
I am not holding onto that hard (giggity), I am gripping it as if you were going to use the phone, maybe a little tighter then normal being that its all glass and I really dont want to drop it

I love the holster I use, Getting a bumper makes it's almost impossible to us it anymore.

Ill look around for some that may work.
 
because people were stating that being that there was 4 cutouts now around the antenna, that they may have "shifted" where the antenna lays therefore holding the bottom like that will not drop a call

One thing you have to understand Apple is a master deceiver and will go to any means to get your money.

It's an external antenna and no matter what quick fix they do you'll still have issues. No other cellular manufacturer has an external antenna design for this very reason.

I'm sure Apple will offer those ugly bumpers to pacify Verizon customers.

iPhone 4, it's gonna change everything once again :rolleyes:
 
no, You fanboys are all alike, so quick to defend apple when this issue does exist for a lot of people,,, but when I dial the call with 3-4 bars, then I drop the call while I am on it, it's at 1 bar.

I shot a quick video, Holding the phone in my left hand as I would as if it's against my ear, you can see the bars drop to 1, I let go towards the end of the video and they shoot back up. This time the call didn't drop but my previous test the call failed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapJbaeDSWQ

You're holding it wrong.
 
It's the same iPhone with a different cellular chip inside. Why would you think it would have been fixed?
 
because people were stating that being that there was 4 cutouts now around the antenna, that they may have "shifted" where the antenna lays therefore holding the bottom like that will not drop a call

So they redesigned the antenna for Verizon but not AT&T? ha.
 
I plan on going to Apple and buying a bumper until a better case comes out. I was hoping with the antenna changes this would not happen, but oh well, I knew there was a chance it would.

I am surprised that people seem shocked over this. If you read anything about the original iphone 4 then you should have known it could happen on Verizon. I'm not upset over it because I plan on buying a case to protect the phone in case I drop it.
 
All jokes aside, the call didn't drop. What's the issue here?
it didn't in that video, Like I said, the previous conversations as I tested dropped, Of course the 1 video i shot did not drop the call and I was not going to keep shooting videos till I lost a call
 
This is GREAT news for EVERYBODY!

Do you understand what this means?

1. Apple's stance is still the same. Non issue.
2. I'd hate to think that Verizon got special treatment with a "fixed" iPhone while US AT&T users have the bad version.
3. If Apple had fixed the antenna problem on the Verizon iPhone, then that's like admitting that there was a problem in the first place and you know that they don't wanna do that an piss off all the AT&T users because then we'd demand a fixed iPhone also.

Again... this is EXCELLENT NEWS YOU GUYS! Think about it for a minute. It makes sense that they didn't fix it.
 
Its funny how I went to bed last night it being February 2011, and woke up in June 2010.

Maybe I should go back to bed.

OP, I'll sum up the summer of 2010 for you. Yes, this affects some (not just the iPhone, but every phone), but not all, get a case or get a refund.

Next on the list of Complaints for this forum, Proximity Sensor Issues.

quick quick, buy some stock while you are in June 2010 (maybe try to go a little bit further back) .... this is what everybody dreams of, a chance to go back in time and buy Apple Stock.
 
The antenna is the least of your problems. If you carry it around naked with the edges of the glass exposed like that you will have broken glass the first time it drops more than a few inches. The iPhone needs a case or bumper. That solves any antenna problem real of not.

I've never been able to duplicate the antenna "problem".

I have no idea why Apple left the edges of the glass raised and exposed like that. :confused:

I think that is a much bigger problem.
 
but the problem still happens, so why did they stop. I can easily make my phone drop a call by holding it in my left hand like I always do...

I dont understand how people can defend that this is not an issue,Just because it doesn't happen to you does not mean it does not exist for other people. No it does not happen on EVERY phone, from what people are saying, it depends on the area you are in and how strong your signal is.

youtube "antenna problem on iphone 4" watch the dozens of videos on people reproducing this

they didnt stop, they just stopped doing it so publicly. If you call apple and complain about signal issues, they'll ship you a free bumper
 
Wow. Word of mouth spreads. I don't believe the antenna issue was ever real. Someone said something, it was repeated and everyone believes it? Doesn't everything interfere with reception on a wireless device? There always will be those that have to find something wrong. I think with electronics, there will always be some level of failure. Doesn't matter what company it is. That being said, I do not think that this "issue" was a failure. I am talking strictly defective items.
 
it didn't in that video, Like I said, the previous conversations as I tested dropped, Of course the 1 video i shot did not drop the call and I was not going to keep shooting videos till I lost a call

But if you have to hold it that tight for that long... You can do it, sure... but why would you?

I'm pretty sure you activated your phone then immediately went into death grip mode just to prove a point to yourself.

Just use the phone and enjoy it.
 
no, You fanboys are all alike, so quick to defend apple when this issue does exist for a lot of people,,, but when I dial the call with 3-4 bars, then I drop the call while I am on it, it's at 1 bar.

I shot a quick video, Holding the phone in my left hand as I would as if it's against my ear, you can see the bars drop to 1, I let go towards the end of the video and they shoot back up. This time the call didn't drop but my previous test the call failed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapJbaeDSWQ

it exists for a lot of people, but that is because of how many iPhones have been sold. The actual numbers work out to something in the realm of <5% affected.
 
How can people so quickly defend Apple when the signal greatly degrades, for a lot of people like the OP?
At least the OP isn't holding the phone in an extremely weird way. I can safely assume that lots of people hold it the same way when talking.
Yes attenuation happens in most phones, but the reason why it is so big on iPhone is that Apple is stupid enough to place that spot at where most people would touch.
This, combined with congested network in big cities, can result in frequent call drops.

the placement of the gap wasn't simply choice...that's where the antenna break needs to be in order for it to work properly. They did lots of research in determining that placement, they didn't just take an iPhone and say "Lets put gaps here, here, and here" just for fun
 
no, You fanboys are all alike, so quick to defend apple when this issue does exist for a lot of people,,, but when I dial the call with 3-4 bars, then I drop the call while I am on it, it's at 1 bar.

I shot a quick video, Holding the phone in my left hand as I would as if it's against my ear, you can see the bars drop to 1, I let go towards the end of the video and they shoot back up. This time the call didn't drop but my previous test the call failed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mapJbaeDSWQ

Dude. They fixed the dramatic signal loss issue in the Verizon version. You DIDN'T drop the call. Bars will go down on EVERY phone, including my Droid X for Verizon. The difference is, the AT&T iPhone 4 DROPS calls when you touch there, the Verizon phone has been proved, by many reliable sources, to not drop calls, even when "death gripped." If you want a phone that doesn't attenuate the signal when held, wait 100 years.
 
I seem to always have 1 bar on my AT&T iPhone 4, but I barely ever drop calls and my data speeds are great. If it dropped to no service, that'd be a different story.
 
It has to do this to make ATT users feel equal...however you won't have a dropped call. (This is coming from a current ATT user, switching over on the 10th) Its a verizon add on to the iOs to show that the bars are lowered but really...its the same call quality :)
 
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