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Anti-Vista Marketing at Apple Stores

Excellent article. A very interesting read. Thanks for posting that.
Imagine consumer software so flawless it never crashes.... oh the bliss.. :)


spicyapple said:
Not sure why uNext brought NASA into discussions... but here's an interesting article from FastCompany that discusses the protocols and testing that goes into NASA software that meets stringent SEI Level 5 designation. They definitely do not use Microsoft products.... :)
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Its funny because I switched to the Mac little more than a year ago and all I ever read on this boards was a) why doesnt Apple point out the htings that are better on a Mac than Windows and b) Apple should really make the hype surrounding Vistas launch to their own advantage.

Well, thats exactly what they have done and people are mad? Lighten up! This is the small guy going after the big guy in any way he can to draw attention. This is a GOOD thing. The Mac would have been rolled over by the Vista marketing juggernaught but at least now people are talking about the Mac EVERY SINGLE TIME Vista is mentioned. And I have saw more 'Im a PC, Im a Mac' ads here in London than anything Vista related. So it seems to be working on that level.

Sure it would be nice to be able to just show off OSX and whatnot, but that doesnt get the people talking. And quite frankly, MS of all companies deserves a little but of piss taking at their expense. Lord knows they havent done their fair share of dirty work the past 20 years.

edit - Apple has shown a little humility too. On the UK Im a Mac adverts, there are ones that have the Pc saying 'Im better at the office stuff', and the Mac saying 'Im better at the home stuff'.
 
TheBobcat said:
You should do stand-up, I haven't laughed this hard in months.

Between the beatiful iMac and your 3-year-premature discovery of the iPhone, I can't get enough. I hope you get a special on HBO, or at least a MySpace account or something.
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What is really funny to me is that if apple comes out with a piece of ****
with a peanut on top, and jobs comes out and says is revolutionary. You will be among the first to defend its authenticity and swear up and down apple invented it.

The Iphone is far from innovative-they changed the names to make it appealing smartphones and regular phones in general have been able to browse the internet for years now. Internet communicator? whatever the name is yeah thats really INNOVATIVE.

And apple tv is so innovative it should be up there right underneath da-vincis bridge 1 the best creations in the world. I mean apple is so innovative with their products i can see why their campaign is so innovative and well thought off. Steve jobs & Co resort to elementary tactics and people praise them?> NOW THATS FUNNY.
 
uNext said:
What is really funny to me is that if apple comes out with a piece of ****
with a peanut on top, and jobs comes out and says is revolutionary. You will be among the first to defend its authenticity and swear up and down apple invented it.

The Iphone is far from innovative-they changed the names to make it appealing smartphones and regular phones in general have been able to browse the internet for years now. Internet communicator? whatever the name is yeah thats really INNOVATIVE.

And apple tv is so innovative it should be up there right underneath da-vincis bridge 1 the best creations in the world. I mean apple is so innovative with their products i can see why their campaign is so innovative and well thought off. Steve jobs & Co resort to elementary tactics and people praise them?> NOW THATS FUNNY.
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Erm, forgive me for being stupid, but what phone on the market is like the iPhone? What phone has a multi touch interface? What phone has a UI that looks even remotely like that (please dont mention the LG - ive seen it. very bland in comparison). What phone lets you browse your music by cover art with your fingers then flip it over to choose a track? What phone has visual voice mail? What phone has slide to unlock?

I wouldnt go as far as saying the iPhone is revolutionary, but to say its not innovative is absolutely absurd.
 
uNext said:
What is really funny to me is that if apple comes out with a piece of ****
with a peanut on top, and jobs comes out and says is revolutionary. You will be among the first to defend its authenticity and swear up and down apple invented it.

The Iphone is far from innovative-they changed the names to make it appealing smartphones and regular phones in general have been able to browse the internet for years now. Internet communicator? whatever the name is yeah thats really INNOVATIVE.> NOW THATS FUNNY.
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There is so much of the iPhone that is innovative and that has simply never been seen in the market before. I don't have to list all of the features, they are written on the apple website. Sure, it is not perfect yet (battery life for 1), but the good thing is, It will not be released for another 5 months so they have time to change some of the features as they did with AppleTV. We can discuss that in another thread some time.
 
uNext said:
What is really funny to me is that if apple comes out with a piece of ****
with a peanut on top, and jobs comes out and says is revolutionary. You will be among the first to defend its authenticity and swear up and down apple invented it.

The Iphone is far from innovative-they changed the names to make it appealing smartphones and regular phones in general have been able to browse the internet for years now. Internet communicator? whatever the name is yeah thats really INNOVATIVE.

And apple tv is so innovative it should be up there right underneath da-vincis bridge 1 the best creations in the world. I mean apple is so innovative with their products i can see why their campaign is so innovative and well thought off. Steve jobs & Co resort to elementary tactics and people praise them?> NOW THATS FUNNY.
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Why are you trolling here? Are you paid to do it, or do you just lack anything better to do?
 
dynamicv said:
I wouldn't say that, but you're right that there are a couple of gaps in the product mix that could do with filling. A reborn Cube, priced properly, for one.

Anyway, that's for another thread (and another....and another...;) )
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You got that right, we need another quicksilver or Cube or something for people with nice big displays. Imac is no solution so that means Mini or Workstation. Thats just pathetic but Apple likes to put itself into little corners. Its sad as Hell they play these games hence 5% of the market. Its a given the OS is the best by far so why arent the fan boys asking whats holding us down? Its the hardware configurations that holds down the Mac and Apple not wanting to sell the OS.
 
To me this totally strips Apple of its dignity. Negative campaigns are irrating and make you look like an arrogant ass. Perhaps things like this are why a lot of people seem to be rather anti-apple.
 
i dony know why everyones so negative i happen to love apples marketing it draws alot of attention, and its really entertaining,if they dont compare os x to vista they arnt protecting their property, they had things like search and widgets first and microsoft goes and steals it and bill has the audacity to say in interviews M$ is inovative!??! i know plenty of people who never used a mac but see the im a mac and im a pc ads and get curious and go check it out plus those adds are hilarious:D :apple: :apple: :apple:
 
uNext said:
The Iphone is far from innovative-they changed the names to make it appealing smartphones and regular phones in general have been able to browse the internet for years now. Internet communicator? whatever the name is yeah thats really INNOVATIVE.
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Absolutely true, and I'm glad someone finally said it!

I mean, I had a phone where I could push buttons and talk back in 1982!!! Come on, you call the iPhone INNOVATIVE?

Finally, at last an anonymous braindead twerp in the MacRumors forums has spoken the truth no one has been willing to speak for fear of Jobsian imprisonment and torture! Apple has not a single innovative bone in their collective bodies! They tie tin cans to the tails of cats for fun! They hold journalists' families hostage, mailing one finger at a time back to the journalist who doesn't write a glowing review of their peanut-capped turds!

At last! Freedom!!!

Oh, have you seen that cool brown Zune? It's got a screeen, and, get this: it plays music. Not just any music, but music that I buy from Microsoft! I hear Microsoft's going to innovate circles around Apple and add an antenna and dial pad to it so you can talk to people who aren't even in the same room as you! I think I need to start talking into my Zune so I'm all practiced up with the Zhone comes out! Call me on my Zhone!
 
iSlicer said:
There is so much of the iPhone that is innovative and that has simply never been seen in the market before. I don't have to list all of the features, they are written on the apple website. Sure, it is not perfect yet (battery life for 1), but the good thing is, It will not be released for another 5 months so they have time to change some of the features as they did with AppleTV. We can discuss that in another thread some time.
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Wow how innovative they added a 5 year old product(ipod) and combined it with a cell phone.....I mean seriously do any of you see pass whats in front of you? Everything thats considered INNOVATIVE FOR APPLE IS OLD IN THE REAL WORLD. The only reason why is new is because is a NEW APPLE CELL PHONE PRODUCT first apple branded mobile "communicator" with an apple appeal. Nothing new about it.

Sit down and think for a minute, take jobs charisma out of your ass and see that IT IS NOT THAT GREAT. I am willing to bet money that when apple decides to support MICROSOFT in their cell phones they will outsell anything out there till then is just another cripled product restricted to what jobs believes is good for you.

Remember apple would have been stuck with their amazing 1-2% market share if they would have never decided to SUPPORT MICROSOFT.

Lets be realistic they are attacking a company that helped them get the shares the yalways dreamed off.

AND DO YOU KNOW THAT APPLE IS PAYING MICROSOFT FOR THR RIGHTS TO USE THE VISTA NAME? have any of you heard of copyright infringement?
yeah apple is attacking microsoft but in the process they are paying them lol

NOW THATS FUNNY lol

MICROSOFT IS ALL ABOUT BUSINESS APPLE IS STILL IN KIDDY LAND. very obvious with their vista attacks.
 
uNext said:
How inovative is :apple: T.V REALLY?

Innovation is havign a gaming system where it connects to your computer and i tcan turn into a PVR. and stream any file from your computer to your t.v.

Apple did no come up with the whole stream to your tv content
sorry to burst your bubble.

The iMac amazing design all in one beatiful but guess what they where not the first all in one they did however make it sexy not INNOVATIVE more like evolution.

The iPod again was not the first to do it it evolved from what was already on the market they did make it sexy and usefull can it really be considered innovative?

the iPhone? i have had a phone that can what the iphone is claiming innoavtive for over 3 years now.

Once again they are not innovative they evolve products with great ideas.
They basically steal the idea or the concept and add that apple topping on top and pass it as innovative.
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You're arguing over the definition of "INNOVATIVE".

Does it really matter?

Innovative. Evolutionary. Whatever.

The point is, Apple's taken quite a few "product designs that were already on the market" and {insert your own verb here}'ed them, creating huge hits that resonated well with the public.

Honestly, pitching such a fit about the term used to describe the products??!!
 
jettredmont said:
Absolutely true, and I'm glad someone finally said it!

I mean, I had a phone where I could push buttons and talk back in 1982!!! Come on, you call the iPhone INNOVATIVE?

Finally, at last an anonymous braindead twerp in the MacRumors forums has spoken the truth no one has been willing to speak for fear of Jobsian imprisonment and torture! Apple has not a single innovative bone in their collective bodies! They tie tin cans to the tails of cats for fun! They hold journalists' families hostage, mailing one finger at a time back to the journalist who doesn't write a glowing review of their peanut-capped turds!

At last! Freedom!!!

Oh, have you seen that cool brown Zune? It's got a screeen, and, get this: it plays music. Not just any music, but music that I buy from Microsoft! I hear Microsoft's going to innovate circles around Apple and add an antenna and dial pad to it so you can talk to people who aren't even in the same room as you! I think I need to start talking into my Zune so I'm all practiced up with the Zhone comes out! Call me on my Zhone!
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You DO realize the iPhone has no "buttons" right ?

I could go on.....
 
You know the old saying "There's no such thing as bad publicity"?

Apple sure is giving Vista a lot of publicity.
 
uNext said:
Wow how innovative they added a 5 year old product(ipod) and combined it with a cell phone.....I mean seriously do any of you see pass whats in front of you? Everything thats considered INNOVATIVE FOR APPLE IS OLD IN THE REAL WORLD. The only reason why is new is because is a NEW APPLE CELL PHONE PRODUCT first apple branded mobile "communicator" with an apple appeal. Nothing new about it.

Sit down and think for a minute, take jobs charisma out of your ass and see that IT IS NOT THAT GREAT. I am willing to bet money that when apple decides to support MICROSOFT in their cell phones they will outsell anything out there till then is just another cripled product restricted to what jobs believes is good for you.

Remember apple would have been stuck with their amazing 1-2% market share if they would have never decided to SUPPORT MICROSOFT.

Lets be realistic they are attacking a company that helped them get the shares the yalways dreamed off.

AND DO YOU KNOW THAT APPLE IS PAYING MICROSOFT FOR THR RIGHTS TO USE THE VISTA NAME? have any of you heard of copyright infringement?
yeah apple is attacking microsoft but in the process they are paying them lol

NOW THATS FUNNY lol

MICROSOFT IS ALL ABOUT BUSINESS APPLE IS STILL IN KIDDY LAND. very obvious with their vista attacks.
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Can a mod please ban this troll? A quick look at all of his posts show that all he does is incite people, as is most obvious in this thread, and adds nothing intelligent to the conversation.
 
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