Why isn't the one you have already perfect?... What will make you update?? The faster processor that you don't need ( that's what you said) the second port that you don't need or the longer battery life that....again you claim not to need?
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Having the newest one is a priority to the graduates of the business school. Besides, having the latest and the greatest is a matter of prestige. Imagine you went into a business meeting with other important CEOs and you didn't have a computer from the latest generation. You would immediately be considered being a second-grade, using second-hand device and you would lose a deal or two, be considered inferior to the others and what not. Hel* forgive if your computer was not an Apple!
In a sense, the business school graduates do not buy the latest laptop because they need to, they are obliged to
Besides, if you were rich and your money was plenty, had a trophy wife, some childern, you might want to pass the rMB down to the family and get yourself the shiny new skylake.
That's actually an argument why our buddy actually wants a SkyLake and is looking forward to it.
Having the newest one is a priority to the graduates of the business school. Besides, having the latest and the greatest is a matter of prestige. Imagine you went into a business meeting with other important CEOs and you didn't have a computer from the latest generation. You would immediately be considered being a second-grade, using second-hand device and you would lose a deal or two, be considered inferior to the others and what not. Hel* forgive if your computer was not an Apple!
In a sense, the business school graduates do not buy the latest laptop because they need to, they are obliged to
Besides, if you were rich and your money was plenty, had a trophy wife, some childern, you might want to pass the rMB down to the family and get yourself the shiny new skylake.
That's actually an argument why our buddy actually wants a SkyLake and is looking forward to it.
That's funny. CEO of my company doesn't use a laptop (uses an old desktop), rarely uses email (will call you on the phone instead,), and does business with a handshake. He's a self-made millionaire, married with kids, lives in a house on the beach, and works six months out of the year at his vacation home in another country. I guess he doesn't feel the need to prove himself to anyone by spreading any proverbial technological peacock feathers, which is fine with me (I mean, really ... what do I care?) as he lets us all work from home.
What's needs got to do with wants or better still wishes which if what most of these speculations are about.
BJ makes some good arguments as do others however they are all flawed as Apple simply has the ability to utterly disappoint or delight in thier upgrades, depending on your point of view.
I think it's worse for adamant OSX users as if they are disappointed they are stuck waiting another year where the Window user can choose to bow out and drop back in to Apple hardware when it suits with less compromise with your preferred footprint.
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See my post above regarding fan noise and travel. A frequent flyer, the example brought up by another poster, isn't on an Airplane/Bus/Train 24/7. The end destination is usually of some significance. I can only imagine a silent computer is a welcome feature. Why else would Apple design their computer to be fanless and then promote this feature to this market segment? Was it just randomness? Is your MacBook Air fan not loud because mine can get loud.
Ditch the headphone jack and replace it with lightening port complete with iPhone 7 headphone solution....adaptor or whatever. Then we can charge off the lightening, leaving the USB-C for other things. Extra port added, no need to licence another from whoever. Unlikely to see this until a post iPhone 7 world in 2017
90% of cars don't have more than 2 people in them at any given time, yet nearly everyone demands a car with 5 seats. 90% cars never travelling under 70mph, yet people want higher horsepower. 90% of my forks, knives, and spoons in the silverware drawer go unused all year long, yet we keep enough to set our largest dinner table twice.
Having just enough resources to meet your requirements 90% of the time is fine, but it's not good. A Yugo is not a good car, but it has just what I need 90% of the time. 500Kbps is not enough internet speed for me, but it's sufficient for more than 90% of the time.
As I've said in several posts on the subject, I will upgrade my RMB if/when Apple releases new features directly related to the core philosophy of the product: Form Factor.
New type of aluminum that's significantly lighter and just as rigid. New evolution of battery that's markedly thinner and lighter with no compromise to lifespan. HD cam with no increase to lid thickness. Charger with a smaller footprint.
That's a small list. Why? Because the RMB already has all the performance capability it's users need and a world-class thin/light form factor. What drives our purchase decision is portability. If/when Apple releases an updated RMB that has increased portability, I'm opening my wallet, will be first on line. The only other needle-mover would be a 14" screen size with only a fractional increase in weight, I'd be first onboard for that too.
BJ
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Good post, agree completely- to a point.
While I may need to fit 4 or 5 people into my BMW on 50 occasions in a 365 day year I never need to multi-task and process so much data with so many apps running at once and stressing the machine to its absolute limits. Never. As in "zero". Nada. Donut.
As in I've been using desktops and notebooks for 36 years, going all the way back to my Commodore VIC 20, and not once, not a single time, not ever in 13,140 days or 315,360 hours or 18,921,600 minutes or 1,135,296,000 seconds or 1.1 trillion milliseconds have I ever felt any performance issues at all for the typical student/businessman tasks I have made.
So, yeah, carry around a few extra car seats you don't need that often. But processing speed? Please. Any modern-day processor in computer no more than 3-4 years old can execute typical student/businessman tasks capably.
BJ
I think I said in a different thread that if we were going based only on need, I could get by with a cheapo netbook from circa 2010. Maybe even less. Anything more than this is purely a want or a nice to have.
Yes, that is the truth. And that's the beauty of the Apple line:
Air = Base model, for the average home user or corporate associate, legacy port connectivity.
Pro = Advanced model, essential to drive a livelihood, the de-facto standard for desktop publishing and media creation.
RMB = Niche model, focus on form factor and portability over power and capability.
Can't see how anyone can complain about the line outside of the fact that the Air lacks a retina display and the Pro is too heavy and both models need USB-C ports for futureproofing.
BJ
Yes, that's the line up of Apple's laptops in its current state.
you hit the nail on the head! Namely that is the problem! The pro is too heavy and the Air lacks a retina screen and, might I add, 8GB RAM as standard. That's why we are discussing in the rMB forum, the rMB has the best form factor, retina display and 8GB RAM as standard. Give it a little more oomph (SkyLake) and it will be the perfect laptop for many. It will not be a niche computer anymore, it will be a best-seller. They will fly off the shelves.
After all they are apparently removing the Air moniker to the iPad and I can see the MacBook Air disappear as well.
What I love about the RMB is the fact that it is as light and portable as an iPad but I can do 200% more work on it. The only thing I would like really added after thinking about it would be another USB-C and that is nit-picking.
I tried the whole " iPad and smart cover keyboard" thing and it just isn't functional for me. I like being able to dive into a desktop environment by just pulling it out of my bag and not even realizing it's in there, that's how easy it is to forget its in there.
I tried the whole " iPad and smart cover keyboard" thing and it just isn't functional for me. I like being able to dive into a desktop environment by just pulling it out of my bag and not even realizing it's in there, that's how easy it is to forget its in there.
With Apple I can't tell; they usually have one not so great device for entry level price/users which tends to use older/cheaper parts giving them good returns.
I remember a similar debate when Apple had the white MacBook, Macbook air and MacBook pro, they neglected the white MacBook and killed it off (some never thought that would happen).
Apple may even do the 'unibody' name dance again and the 'RMB' and MBA trade names & places.
If the MBA does go retina & redesign and they don't kill off the 11" assuming current pricing it would be hard to justify buying the RMB over the smaller air which is also lightweight.
I just wish they would stick to a simple naming scheme for their products. I hope they just have macbook and macbook pro and maybe fold the macbook air line into the macbook line.
As for the update I hope for core m3 to m7 options, and if fold macbook air into macbook line they have a slightly bigger version, not necessarily more expensive, with i5 processors and more connectivity?? Plus more color options... I think the RAM and storage are already fine.
Maybe inclusion of a lightning port for audio and other data alongside an unchanged USBC port or two USBC ports...
As for the update I hope for core m3 to m7 options, and if fold macbook air into macbook line they have a slightly bigger version, not necessarily more expensive, with i5 processors and more connectivity?? Plus more color options... I think the RAM and storage are already fine.
Maybe inclusion of a lightning port for audio and other data alongside an unchanged USBC port or two USBC ports...
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One thing is certain: either BJ or I will be singing "nah-nah-na-boo-boo told ya so told ya so i was right you were wrong" within 2 or 3 hours. Unfortunately, as to this event today, I think it might be BJ singing.
BJ's original prediction was that the rMB would not be updated this year. He is not anywhere close to singing.
He said it won't be updated this year....I predict a silent update either today or wwdc
No silent update. Check the specs on Apple store, it's back online. Specs are the same.
Now, now. It's not like that. We're all professionals here and I'm sorry for those who were looking forward to it. I enjoyed the debate, pity it has to come to an end.
Yes! It continues.*
BJ
* For the record, I said there was a 0% chance for March, a 25% chance for June, and a 75% chance for March '17.
Nothing.
The RMB will not be updated at all this year.
BJ
And then changed to just to play safe..
I'd say there's a 25% chance that would occur in September 2016 and a 75% chance it happens in March 2017.
BJ
Then later
2. Apple has bigger fish to fry and appear to be updating the Air and Pro this year.
BJ
You were saying???
Of course if you say everything and the opposite of everything.......but one does not have to look further than page 1...
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The level of childish behaviour on this thread amazes me. To think that there are actually "adults" behind each message posted on here truly astounds me.
If it makes you happy, fine, I'll stand behind "nothing at all this year".
Like it really matters? Your life changes if I'm wrong? Let me tell you, my life doesn't change for being right.
BJ