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I forgot to add that I am still a bit salty about the **** accessory bundle on the iPhone XS. For a 1179 euro phone not having a fast charger or the 3.5mm to Lightning adapter included is insulting when those are standard on a lot of phones. Hell, some phones even offer much better quality ear buds for a lot less money. Personally I'd rather they drop the earbuds if they want to skimp on cost as they are a bit ****.

So for me the phone is great, the pricing and accessories are not.

I feel you bro, It’s like they slap us in the face by not giving us those in the box options. Hey Apple, it’s not about the stock holders, it’s about us!
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Oh so you got an Essential phone? ;)

Just kidding. And yeah I agree with pretty much everything you said. I had an iPhone 6 and 6s Plus then got bored with iOS and went to Android with my Pixel 2. I miss the AOD, the way Android handles notifications, etc...

I switched to the Max because I wanted a great large OLED screen. Not a fan of Galaxy phones because I don't like what they do to pure Android, so that left only the Pixel 3 XL (which looks absolutely horrible) or the iPhone Max. Wife was going to get a Max anyway, so I jumped on board to get the $700 off promo through Verizon.

Still keeping my small Pixel 2 for now. But I love the display on this phone so much that I don't see how I could go back. I heard that maybe Android on the Galaxy S10 won't be skinned as heavily... Maybe then I could go back to Android and find a friend that wants my Max.

You know you have to add a line to get the promo?
 
I feel you bro, It’s like they slap us in the face by not giving us those in the box options. Hey Apple, it’s not about the stock holders, it’s about us!
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You know you have to add a line to get the promo?
Yeah - we switched from AT&T to Verizon. Both lines are "new".
 
I've tried various iPhones over the years and find them smooth and very easy to use. I currently have a two year old 7 and used it to beta test iOS 12. I used that 7 for about six months before returning to Android and trying a pixel 2. I only have one insurmountable problem with iPhone and that is the lack of customization on my home screen. If I can get past that I'd probably switch long term but swapping back and forth between iOS and android I quickly lose interest in that lacking feature in my 7. I keep a variety of preset launchers in a file on my pixel 2 and enjoy switching between them as the mood strikes. So while I like iPhone for the simplicity it bores me to quickly lacking customizing options. Maybe someday Apple will allow icons to be placed outside of the grid .Until then, I dunno probably stick to Android .
 
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fast charging would degrade battery life quicker if you want my honest opinion... i use a 29W + USB-C to Lightning and the phone gets freaking hot when I charge it with that. Use a 5W or 10W iPhone/iPad charger the heat isn't so significant due to less amperage being channeled into the phone vs the 29W option for fast charging.

I only use fast charging if it's urgent matters [like i really need a 50% boost in 30 minutes or less]. If it's not urgent i just stick the 5w plug in it and charge it slowly :)
 
fast charging would degrade battery life quicker if you want my honest opinion... i use a 29W + USB-C to Lightning and the phone gets freaking hot when I charge it with that. Use a 5W or 10W iPhone/iPad charger the heat isn't so significant due to less amperage being channeled into the phone vs the 29W option for fast charging.

I only use fast charging if it's urgent matters [like i really need a 50% boost in 30 minutes or less]. If it's not urgent i just stick the 5w plug in it and charge it slowly :)

Go wireless at that point, I love my fast charger. I use an 18w, and it gets a little warm but not bad. The 10sMax seems to charger faster
 
This.

AoD really is a great feature, and useful.

Without it, when walking by your phone laying on the table, the iPhone looks like it's powered off, you have no idea if you missed a call or text. You have to actually grab and pick up the iPhone to check


But AoD on Android, you walk by and can see if there's a missed call then pick up your phone, otherwise if you don't see one, just keep the phone on the table.
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Curious your review. You've been with Android a long time, will be interested in hearing how you like or don't like using an iOS device.
I likely would find this very useful if I didn't have an apple watch and I bet this is a big reason why apple don't include it
 
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I did get one, (XS) it is the first iPhone I have had since the 5S, it is a beautiful thing. I am just setting it up, but, as with any phone, there are frustrations, they are not the phones fault or the OS, it is just me being used to something different.

I will say that the way the apps are set out on the screen is a small frustration though, with my Pixel, I could have them exactly where my thumb could touch them easily, with this phone, the apps go where Apple wants them to. In fact, for a right handed user, if I only wanted one app on the screen, by default, it would be the furthest away from my thumb than it could be. It is a small issue and after a week or so, I will be used to it.
 
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I forgot to add that I am still a bit salty about the **** accessory bundle on the iPhone XS. For a 1179 euro phone not having a fast charger or the 3.5mm to Lightning adapter included is insulting when those are standard on a lot of phones. Hell, some phones even offer much better quality ear buds for a lot less money. Personally I'd rather they drop the earbuds if they want to skimp on cost as they are a bit ****.

So for me the phone is great, the pricing and accessories are not.


Agreed. That said, I've already had the fast charging stuff since I got my OG iPad Pro, plus I used to have a Pixel 1, so I had tons of USB PD accessories. Furthermore, while the lack of a headphone dongle was annoying, the 9 dollar extra fee on top of a $1500 purchase was a time-wasting annoyance rather than a financial consideration.
 
I must say, I have a Galaxy S8+ now, and if I was going to upgrade, it would be to the Note 9. It just seems to be the "no compromises" phone to beat at the moment.

if you don't need iMessage or FaceTime or any of those Apple proprietary services, the Note 9 will be a beast of a phone!!!!! That said I do love my Max.
 
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Just switched from a Galaxy S8+

The XS max is great as its very stable, and the battery life is great, just wanted a bit of a change and kind of needed
imessage as the rest of the family has it android sms is terrible, However now i cant txt any of my android friends at all now as I dont have service inside the home and Imessage wont send txt over wifi to any other devices unless its ios so im completely cut off.

Have you turned on regular sms texts under settings? It’s usually toggled OFF by default.
 
Just switched from a Galaxy S8+
Miss AOD.. running late in the morning and in the shower?
Just peek your head out and check the time, glance over at anytime for that matter.

Then just simple things that make sense on android that you cant do on ios.
Small annoyances, like setting notification volume independently from ringer volume.
Android notifications are still better, You have tons more info right in front of you at all times easily accessible.

the customization obviously and much more freedom in a way
that is more PC like, where you can install much more freely.

Not having any full ad blocking is killing me on the new xs.

But Android this year to me is a bit boring, and the pixel 3 will have a notch, if im going to get stuck with a notch
its going to be the original..

The XS max is great as its very stable, and the battery life is great, just wanted a bit of a change and kind of needed
imessage as the rest of the family has it android sms is terrible, However now i cant txt any of my android friends at all now as I dont have service inside the home and Imessage wont send txt over wifi to any other devices unless its ios so im completely cut off.


Oh, I also miss a feature i used ALL the time, swipe from the right side of your screen to get screenshot, or take a gif screenshot of a playing video. I have not been able to find anything on ios that will let me take a screenshot from a video and turn it into a 15 sec gif on the fly.


they got ad blocking extensions for safari in the app store, try norton ad block. I literally forgot ads exists sometimes lol.
 
fast charging would degrade battery life quicker if you want my honest opinion... i use a 29W + USB-C to Lightning and the phone gets freaking hot when I charge it with that. Use a 5W or 10W iPhone/iPad charger the heat isn't so significant due to less amperage being channeled into the phone vs the 29W option for fast charging.

I only use fast charging if it's urgent matters [like i really need a 50% boost in 30 minutes or less]. If it's not urgent i just stick the 5w plug in it and charge it slowly :)

Nah , apple said plenty of times that lightning fast charging doesn't damage the batteries and a miniscule 2-3% decay over the span of 2 years is nothing since nobody keeps their phone longer then that nowdays.
 
I do like it, a few niggles here and there, it does seem to take an age to charge, but I normally just stick mine on charge overnight so that's not really a problem, quick charging would have been nice though. First time I have used face id, its fabulous. I miss the back button on Android and as said before, to place apps exactly where I want. A battery percentage would be nice on the home screen but not a deal breaker.

Reception seems about the same as my Pixel 2. The notch doesn't bother me.

After laying out a good wad of cash I would like to think I have got the best phone I have ever had, in reality, it probably is, but not by a big margin. I'm happy with it, and isn't that what its all about?
 
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I do like it, a few niggles here and there, it does seem to take an age to charge, but I normally just stick mine on charge overnight so that's not really a problem, quick charging would have been nice though. First time I have used face id, its fabulous. I miss the back button on Android and as said before, to place apps exactly where I want.

Reception seems about the same as my Pixel 2. The notch doesn't bother me.

After laying out a good wad of cash I would like to think I have got the best phone I have ever had, in reality, it probably is, but not by a big margin. I'm happy with it, and isn't that what its all about?

ah i see you have switched :). face ID is awesome. make sure you use a password manager such as lastpass or 1password. i have an ipad so i use that charger for my iphone and it charges quick enough. as for app placements, i like all my apps at the bottom so that my thumb can reach the most used apps so i built my 1st page that way.
 
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Interesting thread. I used to be a big apple and iphone fan but left for the bigger screened android world back around the time of the Galaxy S3 and haven't been back. Every year I follow the iphone launch and strongly consider it but each time so far I have stuck android. The max (or maybe the XR to save some money) has me really tempted this time and I am due to upgrade at the end of next month so I can hold out and consider both.

My note 8 has been a great device but it is far from perfect and whereas people often comment on iOS being boring, I'm actually kind of bored with android right now. Going back to iOS just for a 'change' seems like an interesting thing to do right now and this years iphones seems to be the closest to meeting my requirements that apple have managed in a long time
 
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Interesting thread. I used to be a big apple and iphone fan but left for the bigger screened android world back around the time of the Galaxy S3 and haven't been back. Every year I follow the iphone launch and strongly consider it but each time so far I have stuck android. The max (or maybe the XR to save some money) has me really tempted this time and I am due to upgrade at the end of next month so I can hold out and consider both.

My note 8 has been a great device but it is far from perfect and whereas people often comment on iOS being boring, I'm actually kind of bored with android right now. Going back to iOS just for a 'change' seems like an interesting thing to do right now and this years iphones seems to be the closest to meeting my requirements that apple have managed in a long time


What was your last iPhone?
If you don’t mind me asking.
Hopefully you won’t be disappointed with the Xs or xr
 
Interesting thread. I used to be a big apple and iphone fan but left for the bigger screened android world back around the time of the Galaxy S3 and haven't been back. Every year I follow the iphone launch and strongly consider it but each time so far I have stuck android. The max (or maybe the XR to save some money) has me really tempted this time and I am due to upgrade at the end of next month so I can hold out and consider both.

My note 8 has been a great device but it is far from perfect and whereas people often comment on iOS being boring, I'm actually kind of bored with android right now. Going back to iOS just for a 'change' seems like an interesting thing to do right now and this years iphones seems to be the closest to meeting my requirements that apple have managed in a long time


iOS hasn't changed much since you left.
 
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ah i see you have switched :). face ID is awesome. make sure you use a password manager such as lastpass or 1password. i have an ipad so i use that charger for my iphone and it charges quick enough. as for app placements, i like all my apps at the bottom so that my thumb can reach the most used apps so i built my 1st page that way.

Yes, it was all your fault. Lol, I use 1 Password. Do you mean you fill your first page so that the apps you use mainly at the bottom? There is no other way is there? Genuine question, I may be missing something. Not being technically minded, I have an iPad Pro, that would be safe to use as a charger?

What you said in your first post on the subject was the thing that tipped me, it was all true. Thank you, I am delighted.
 
Yes, it was all your fault. Lol, I use 1 Password. Do you mean you fill your first page so that the apps you use mainly at the bottom? There is no other way is there? Genuine question, I may be missing something. Not being technically minded, I have an iPad Pro, that would be safe to use as a charger?

What you said in your first post on the subject was the thing that tipped me, it was all true. Thank you, I am delighted.


Yup I use my iPad pro charger. Yeah, I fill my first page with apps I use from time to time. Then the ones I use most at the bottom so they're always easy to reach.
 
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Yes. I used iPhones up to the iPhone 5 then moved to Windows Phone - which I think was the best phone OS until MS killed it off. I have been on Android from the Nexus 5 and I've had a Nexus 5x and various Samsung Galaxy phones including the S6, S7, S7 Edge, S8 and now the S9. I have also had a Pixel 1 and 2.

Last Friday I took delivery of the iphone Xs, expecting great things. Boy, was I disappointed! My phone is an adjunct to my daily life and I use it a lot. I love that I can have my Alexa shopping list as a widget on the home screen and my calendar widget is there as soon as I log in. I have macros ebabled which switch the phone into silent mode after 9.30pm, but only if it is connected to my home wifi AND is charging. This means if my plans change and I go out late the phone stays as normal. I listen to a lot of pocasts and use a calendar and contacts hosted on my NAS.

The iPhone Xs disappointed me big time. My heart started sinking just after I switched it on. I felt that iOS has remained static since the iPhone 5 and new features have been inelegantly bolted on - like the widget pane and notifications. I thought I could live with my widgets living on a separate pane, but I had no control over which aspects of the app appeared in the widget. I could get the Todoist widget to appear but it only showed the task list and I was not able to get it to show my Alexa shopping list. The calendar widget is very crude and it refused to connect to my server via CalDAV. I searched online and found there is a bug going back to last year - and it still hasn't been resolved.

The iPhone settings app is an absolute embarrassment - a huge long, largely unstructured list. One or two apps let you change setting within the app, but for most you have to use the iOS settings app. It really did feel rather nasty.

Multi-tasking doesn't really work on iOS - it is way behind Android.

There is no indication of whether the phone is fast charging and online people were saying that you need to cahrge from empty and time how long it takes, then you know. Really?

The home screen on iOS looks the same as it did years ago - a static grid of icons allowing no fexibility or icon positioning outside that grid.

The display, in spite of what DisplayMate says, is nowhere near as nice as the Samsung Galaxy S9 screen. The way Apple deals with fonts makes then less crisp than on decent Android displays.

I took some photos and was frankly underwhelmed.

I was impressed with Face ID - it never failed an was pretty instant. So much better than what Samsung offers on the S8/9.

I was expecting something amazing for the price and was left wondering why I had spent £999 on a phone which would give me a much poorer experience - with lots of workarounds needed to even approach what I am used to on Android.

I decided to return it. Thank goodness for Apple's excellent no-questions-asked returns policy. Apple does much better customer service than other phone manufacturers, I'll have to concede that!
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I want a more secure device and apple isnt as bad at selling people's info for targeted ads like google is. Apple makes their money from hardware, google makes theirs from advertising.
That's exactly why I wanted to switch, but it didn't work out for me - see my earlier post in this thread.

I have reduced Google's opportunity to harvest my data by using as few Google services as possible on Android. I use Firefox Focus as my browser and StartPage as my search engine. Neither sends any information to Google. I was using Google Calendar and Contacts. I set up my own calendar and contacts server on my Synology NAS so neither go anywhere near Google. I don't use GMail. I know that my Android phone will still send informatiuon to Google, but they know a lot less about me than before I made those changes.

I also have a little Rasberry Pi running Pi Hole which acts as a DNS server on my home network so it protects all connected devices and I notice a lot of information going to Google is blocked.
 
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I did....had iphone since the 4 and had it till 7 plus but then i tried the note 8 for a year and now i switches back to iphone and i have the max...only thing i miss from note 8 is showbox and all the songs i was able to download...can i get showbox on iPhone? Can i transfer my songs onto my iphone? If so how
 
I must say, I have a Galaxy S8+ now, and if I was going to upgrade, it would be to the Note 9. It just seems to be the "no compromises" phone to beat at the moment.

I had a Note 9, 512gb model, and switched to the iPhone Xs Max 256gb. And can't be happier. The battery life kills the Note 9 by a lot. I usually had 30% left at the end of day on the Note, and on the Max I have 70%.

The iPhone works better everywhere from Apps, smoothness, etc. No app crashes. The screen is the best screen out of all smart phones per displaymate.com.

I agree, you can customize the Note 9, but honestly everything you can customize these days isn't worth it. The iPhone can do what a person needs.
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iOS hasn't changed much since you left.

Laugh. It has changed a lot.
 
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