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Any Competition to the iPhone?

slapppy said:
Also Engadget has a post today that Pre will have Flash support. Looks like the Pre will have everything the iPhone can't do.
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Not a surprise to me. I think this is the best way to attack the iPhone. The competition should not try to beat the features the iPhone already has - good luck trying that. But, they should focus on developing what the iPhone doesn't (or refuses) to have. This is how they can set themselves apart.
 
Aputech said:
Toshiba are about to realease their "iPhone-killer", the TG01
I must say that it has some pretty impressive specs:

- 1 GHz processor
- It's 0.39 inches thick compared to the iPhone's 0.48
- 800-by-480 resolution. The iPhone’s screen has a resolution of 480-by-320
- The user can at all times change the micro SD to up to 32 GB.
- Flash-support

Otherwise it's comes with most of the same features: camera, gps, wifi, "accelorometer" - but bear in mind that it's a windows-based gadget, and we all know what that means.

It's probably less restricted, as most other devices are, but I bet the 3rd gen. iPhone will beat the heck out of it on all levels.
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You lost me at Windows Mobile. I would be drooling over an Android phone with those same specifications, but I've never had a Windows Mobile phone I wanted to use.

The G1 is lacking in several areas, but I do like the phone. The iPhone is the best so far because of the hardware.

I want the Lenovo OPhone loaded with pure Android unlocked and in my hand. :D
 
polishmacuser said:
well one its not useless at least the blackberry can freaking copy and paste the link, look i love the iphone but its all on preference check out the phones that are available now and rumors say the pre might come out in march. maybe the pre will scare apple into putting all the features it lacks who knows competition is great for everyone.
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*cough* Jailbreak, add clippy, backgrounder *cough*
 
I personally will probably get the new OmniaHD when it comes out to replace my iPhone 3G. Unless a new iPhone is introduced with some hella nice new stuff, I don't see myself really being swayed... The OmniaHD does everything I want a phone to do, and it appears that it does it amazingly, and looks brilliant while it does it.

Basically, I want a phone, a web browser, an excellent media player, and a good camera.

They're both phones. Check.

The iPhone's browser is second to none, I realize that, but truth be told, I don't use it enough on non-mobile formatted pages for it to matter a lot. As for being a media player, OmniaHD is a beast...

For watching movies, it has a 3.7" 640x360 AMOLED screen which is so beautiful the iPhone can only shudder in its wake. For music, it also has a 3.5mm headphone jack, so it's set.

For camera, there is no contest whatsoever. The first Omnia's camera was good enough to replace a point-and-shoot. The OmniaHD has an 8 MP camera with autofocus and flash, and is capable of recording video in 720p. Game over.
 
The competition coming up in the next few months for the iPhone is going to be intense, I think we can all be agreed upon that - the Palm Pre, the new crop of Android phones, RIM's Blackberry, even WinMo 6.5.

All of these phones and OS's are competing, or soon will be, to take the iPhone's crown as the king of the consumer smartphone - an immensely profitable sweet spot.

What I am certainly agreed upon is that whether or not there is competition at the moment, there certainly will be before long. But it must also be made plain that there are already people who would rather get another, more functional phone which is not limited by the iPhones (few) drawbacks: that is why the G1 and even the handicapped Blackberry Storm have sold so well.

Check out a longer post I made here: http://thephonelounge.com/?p=7, I can't be bothered to write the whole thing over again.

Would you guys agree?
 
I was in the Verizon store recently, shooting the bull with the salesman, and asked why Verizon can't just suck it up and get iPhones. I'm no tech-jargon genius, so I don't know what he meant when he said:

"Well, Verizon's entire network will be 3G in about a year, end of 2009 sometime. You'll be able to use an iPhone on our network then."

Is this true? Isn't there something about CDMA and other various acronyms? By the way, new to the forum, like it so far.
 
Kennedy said:
I was in the Verizon store recently, shooting the bull with the salesman, and asked why Verizon can't just suck it up and get iPhones. I'm no tech-jargon genius, so I don't know what he meant when he said:

"Well, Verizon's entire network will be 3G in about a year, end of 2009 sometime. You'll be able to use an iPhone on our network then."

Is this true? Isn't there something about CDMA and other various acronyms? By the way, new to the forum, like it so far.
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The salesman is misinformed. Verizon will move to LTE (technically 4G) in 2010/2011. About the same time AT&T will be rolling out their LTE. Verizon may actually have it running around late 2010.

Verizon will be upgrading their entire network to LTE.

LTE is NOT 3G.

It remains to be seen if Verizon's LTE will be interoperable with 3G phones. For instance, 2G edge phones can still operate on 3G towers. It depends on the frequency Verizon will be using as well.

Even so, the iPhone will need to be upgraded to LTE in order to run on pure LTE networks.
 
Kennedy said:
I was in the Verizon store recently, shooting the bull with the salesman, and asked why Verizon can't just suck it up and get iPhones. I'm no tech-jargon genius, so I don't know what he meant when he said:

"Well, Verizon's entire network will be 3G in about a year, end of 2009 sometime. You'll be able to use an iPhone on our network then."

Is this true? Isn't there something about CDMA and other various acronyms? By the way, new to the forum, like it so far.
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I don't know much about cellphone technology terminology, but it seems like since the iPhone 3G has come out, suddenly everyone has a 3G network. T Mobile has a 3G network (more in the traditional sense), Sprint has commercials about the "fastest 3G network," etc. It's only a matter of time until Verizon starts advertising their "3G" network.
 
I really like my G1, finally getting good reception inside of buildings and wilderness the iphone was so bad. I know it was not tmo. and a real keyboard I never could type well on a virtual board. music sounds the same and videos are better. Google did leave lots of things in the phone that Apple did not want put in the phone, just jailbreak it and it's all there. battery goes dead in a location that I can not recharge I just pop in a new one. Can download more useful apps from the internet. do have Opera on it but would like Skyfire on it, I will have too work on that. Oh I still use the iphone once in awhile, it is a good back up device.
 
Maybe the HTC magic will compete well with the iPhone, but on the Android front I would imagine more people would wait until a more elegant handset was released by some manufacturer. Let's not forget that one of the main reasons why the iPhone is so popular is design - and from my point of view the HTC magic just doesn't look all that great.
 
Android and hand sets will get better. As Apple keeps a iron fist on iphone I see it losing favor with the masses. Only hard core Apple fans will stay with iphone.
 
I'm pretty much the typical Apple fanboy, but I tested out a G1 for a week & loved it! I have had both the original & 3G iphones and indeed they are landmarks in the cellular industry. But.... I think I will be changing to the second generation Android/G series phone. I say that now, but I am waiting to see what Apple does this summer (if there even is a new iPhone announced).
 
the palm pre will be the first phone to give the iphone an actual challenge

at least since android dropped the ball with the g1(it still has potential, but it has a long hill to climb)

it's about time too, competition will do the iphone some good
 
i've always owned blackberry and ipod touches 1st gen and 2nd gen and i always love my blackberry so i think there is compititon out there but for people like me no because i am going to get an iphone simply because it will be my ipod and phone all in 1. The Pre is a serious contender in my oppinion to watch out for along with the omina HD and nokia N97
 
deadsouls said:
yah. a wonderful os that can't run more than one app at once (besides mail/mp3/etc whatever default apps that already run in the bg) because it has no memory handling and a phone that doesn't even have push notification to make up for it yet.

backgrounder for jailbroken iphones would be nice but most your backgrounded apps just close anyway due to lack of memory.
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Pretty ignorant assessment of the iphone.

The limitations on background applications are intentional in tradeoff for stabillity.

Of course if you want to erroneously claim that all these other devices flawlessly work all the time with 10 programs running, I guess you can.

At least understand how and why something does something before you ignorantly bash it.

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marksman said:
Pretty ignorant assessment of the iphone.

The limitations on background applications are intentional in tradeoff for stabillity.

Of course if you want to erroneously claim that all these other devices flawlessly work all the time with 10 programs running, I guess you can.

At least understand how and why something does something before you ignorantly bash it.

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Why are you so apologetic for Apple? There is no reason why they shouldn't allow background apps, all the reasons they've given are just BS PR lies.
 
Tbh, I didn't see anything at MWC that made me say 'Whoa!'. Even the Pre wasn't that amazing.
The HTC Magic isn't really a big step forward. The Omnia HD has awesome specs, but it'll be a niche phone. Nokia's N97 looks okay, but again, nothing spectacular there, imo.
Android needs to be on more devices than only the HTC Magic and G1.

In terms of being the dominant ultra consumer phone(in the eyes of the masses, not the phone geeks), Apple have little to worry about, imo.

Check 'em all out Here:
 
Seems to be a lot of assumptions here that the iPhone is somehow still "best selling" months after each of its two big debuts. Fact is, sales always drop off.

For instance, for 3Q 2008 the iPhone 3G got 30% of the US market. By 4Q that had dropped to 22%, while Blackberries jumped to over 47% of the US.

The iPhone is totally missing as an option in parts or all of one third of the USA states. It's not available on the carriers that two thirds of US buyers are on. This has given RIM, HTC and others, an incredible opportunity to grow.

While Apple has a lot of ATT sales, ATT continues to add the latest WinMo phones, and is quite likely to soon sell the rumored new Dell "create-your-own" smartphones. ATT sure isn't staying exclusive to Apple in return for Apple tying themselves to ATT.

As a side note, I was at my older dentist (not a techie type) the other day and he saw me watching Sling TV on my phone. He asked, is that one of those Blackberries? It struck me that more people still probably know that name... just as in years past, most people called any PDA a "Palm Pilot".
 
kdarling said:
As a side note, I was at my older dentist (not a techie type) the other day and he say me watching Sling TV on my phone. He asked, is that one of those Blackberries? It struck me that more people still probably know that name... just as in years past, most people called any PDA a "Palm Pilot".
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I can see that. The Blackberry carries a lot of name power and this is well-entrenched into society.
 
kas23 said:
I can see that. The Blackberry carries a lot of name power and this is well-entrenched into society.
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True. My wife and I will be switching to AT&T when/if a new iPhone comes out this summer. I ask her what phone she will want to get when we switch (she's not into tech) "ah, I dunno, a blackberry or something." :D

She's completely aware that iPhone's are popular as she's heard me babble on about them for 2 years straight now but she doesn't really want one (so she thinks) but it's still funny how everyone thinks a phone with a physical keyboard is pretty much a blackberry.
 
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