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The AI craze has gone too far imo—I don’t find the case for half assed sparknotes or nightmare fuel hallucination image creation useful. Even though the AI stuff is only limited to the A17 Pro or M-series Macs/iPads, I think I will be hesitant to update to iOS 18. I don’t want any part of this hack job “AI” that the tech industry is trying to sell us.
It won't be active until you explicitly turn it on on iOS18. It's like Siri, which isn't an activated feature by default.
 
Google Photos thinks hundreds of photos in my library taken with an actual camera are screenshots. Does that answer your question?
Screenshots originally used to be taken with a real camera (and sometimes still are), it's not a contradiction. ;)
 
People who don't understand AI seem to be quick to be anti-AI. No surprise there, really. Typical human condition.

And while I'm sure there is a lot to legitimately fear about AI in the future, that's really a different conversation.

As far as Apple's AI features...many of them are quite universal. You don't need to be an AI aficionado to appreciate them or benefit from them. The very first time you see a massive email condensed to 1 sentence with everything relevant that you needed to know, you'll change your tune about the usefulness of AI features.
 
Anyone who bought an iPhone 15 thinking it would be future proof through the next model year at least.

Apple knew when the 15 was announced that AI was planned for the 16, they should have included the necessary ram in the 15s to support it.
 
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I see it as a work related thing. And work that I need AI to do, I rather do it on a computer. Kinda like the big purchase theory.
 
People who don't understand AI seem to be quick to be anti-AI. No surprise there, really. Typical human condition.

And while I'm sure there is a lot to legitimately fear about AI in the future, that's really a different conversation.

As far as Apple's AI features...many of them are quite universal. You don't need to be an AI aficionado to appreciate them or benefit from them. The very first time you see a massive email condensed to 1 sentence with everything relevant that you needed to know, you'll change your tune about the usefulness of AI features.
This is a great example. What you have to realize though is a lot of us, adults, don't even really deal with email. Basically the emails I typically get on my phone are purchase receipts after I buy something online and I don't need AI to explain them to me, or its junk mail that I delete as soon as it comes in.
 
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This is a great example. What you have to realize though is a lot of us, adults, don't even really deal with email. Basically the emails I typically get on my phone are purchase receipts after I buy something online and I don't need AI to explain them to me, or its junk mail that I delete as soon as it comes in.

Adults don't deal with emails at work, or for appointments, payments, healthcare, etc? Interesting take.
 
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I'm mostly not interested in it.

But part of the reason I don't use Siri is because it's not very good. I am looking forward to an improved digital assistant that can actually be useful for certain tasks. I'm finding AI being able to do certain "Ask Jeeves" type web searches, compiling information from different sources to get a quick answer to a question to be useful. It would be nice if Siri could do that the way a more effective chat bot can.

Will I pay a subscription for AI features on an iPhone, though? Nah.
 
This is a great example. What you have to realize though is a lot of us, adults, don't even really deal with email. Basically the emails I typically get on my phone are purchase receipts after I buy something online and I don't need AI to explain them to me, or its junk mail that I delete as soon as it comes in.
Unemployed adults, maybe.
 
If you need AI just to be able to complete basic things like that then maybe its for you.

Bold assumption for you to make. I get hundreds of work emails daily - give me a tool to more efficiently triage them and I am going to use it. That's time I could spend elsewhere.

No one needs AI like no one needs a calculator. I can do it all in my head, but sometimes hitting a few buttons can be meaningfully faster.
 
Bold assumption for you to make. I get hundreds of work emails daily - give me a tool to more efficiently triage them and I am going to use it. That's time I could spend elsewhere.

No one needs AI like no one needs a calculator. I can do it all in my head, but sometimes hitting a few buttons can be meaningfully faster.
I hear what you are saying I think, I’m looking at it from a different direction: use it or lose it. Much like with physical things, if we aren’t using our brains eventually they will deteriorate and you won’t be able to do as much on your own as you used to.
 
Yeah me i dont care about them. I use chatgpt daily so it is just a matter of opening the app only an inputting the correct prompt.
 
I hear what you are saying I think, I’m looking at it from a different direction: use it or lose it. Much like with physical things, if we aren’t using our brains eventually they will deteriorate and you won’t be able to do as much on your own as you used to.

I'd rather "use it" on things that matter, like accurate reporting, streamlining processes, and policy compliance, which I can spend more time on if I'm not reading through pointless messages. Suppose we have different priorities, no fault there. Just don't insinuate that people use tools as a crutch without knowing the details.
 
The only “AI” thing that I find truly revolutionary is the ability to split finished audio mixes into individual instrument tracks. It's both something we truly couldn't do before and actually useful.

But all this text-based LLM stuff like OpenAI, to me is, yes, something we couldn't do before, but, in my opinion, ultimately not very useful. Whether it generates text or code, the amount of revisions and changes necessary usually means that I would have been better off just doing it myself from scratch. I tried a lot of these features in different apps and have ended up disabling all of them.

So not only am I not interested, I've started actively avoiding products that add AI or pivot to be AI focused (specifically, Arc browser). It's a cool party trick but kinda useless beyond that.
 
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What we have now is not AI.

It's a crappy tokenizer and statistical inference network that outputs something stupid people haven't worked out is stupid yet. This is all powered by an investment mill and hype engineering operation like no one has ever seen before.

Quick example.

It's impossible to have a 10uH capacitor (it should be 10pF) and a 22pF inductor also makes no sense (22uH it should be). Also 1THz is a frequency which is waaaaay outside any reasonable model where a lumped element circuit even makes sense to reason about.

An EE tutor / engineer would roll up a newspaper, hit you round the back of the head and tell you to stop being a dumbass.

CoPilot answers you authoritatively while completely misinterpreting the question and giving you an answer which has no meaning at all.

It's hopeless.

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A fine example of Augmented Idiocy. You need a rationality filter over the top of the AI.

As the ancient saying goes, To error is human, to really mess things up you need a computer.
 
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1, it’s not I’m not interested. It’s that I can’t come to my phone, the iPhone 13 Pro, which you were disappointed about
2 the AI features seem basic. I want something more like what Pixel has. the advanced cam features that have been released with the Pixel 7, 8 and 9 are what I want on the next iPhone or iPhones to come

PS. I want the M4 and M5 MacBook Pro to have more of a focus on AI. I'm in desperate need of upgrading my MacBook, but I do not want to upgrade if AI is eventually going to come and make a big upgradean what is currently ou out on the M4 and M5 MacBook Pro to have more of a focus on AI. I'm in desperate need of upgrading my MacBook, but I do not want to upgrade if AI is eventually going to come and make a big upgrade then what is out with the M3. Maybe add an N Maybe add an NPU chip.
 
I keep hearing about how the 15 is out of date as it will have no AI. Sure it will be the selling point in a video but I never use Siri. In a few years when foldable and better cameras come AI will just be there as a feature as standard for those who wish to use. Don’t see it being a main feature I read even Apple don’t think it will be a selling point earlier in year?
If you bought the 15, you have to rethink your whole entire life decisions because you'll iPhone just lost so much resell value
 
The software AI features are boring to me, but the hardware AI features that are strictly on the new iPhones are what is intriguing to me similar to what the pixel have every year when they release a new phone
 
Personally, what AI seem to offer me is the "help" to perfect everything I do with my gadget: summarising what I read, correcting my replies, visualise my idea, etc.

Thanks for the offer, but no. I'd like to be as human as possible. That means, for me:
It's okay to reread articles and spend more time on them. It's okay to have some slight mistakes in our replies. It's okay to just google/duckduckgo/bing/yandex images to visualise idea. It's OK to get lost on stackexchange/quora/github/etc just to find the solution of anything.

It's OKAY to go slower to find answers, to make some slight mistakes, and to be more manual. I've already been running too fast, demanding/being demanded of perfection that I cannot achieve. AI will make me fell deeper into that deathly rabbit hole. So...no, thanks.
 
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