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I've ordered it and am going to try it out before making up my mind. However, I just noticed that the return period on the iPad Pro has been increased to well into January. Usually its 14 days. Is this only for the iPad or it for all products.
 
I've ordered it and am going to try it out before making up my mind. However, I just noticed that the return period on the iPad Pro has been increased to well into January. Usually its 14 days. Is this only for the iPad or it for all products.

All products. It's the extended return period for the Holidays.
 
I ordered my ipad pro on Nov. 11th I ordered the keyboard and pencil too and had picked in-store pickup for all because it was an option. I got the email saying the ipad pro was ready for pickup but nothing about the keyboard and pencil. I then checked my order status, and found that the accessory orders had been cancelled by Apple. Supposedly because the store didn't have any. When I picked up my ipad pro, the manager said they had received keyboards and pencils but they were for demos not for sale. He said six others were in the same situation. I called Apple and registered a complaint. Apple overnighted keyboards and pencils to the store. The manager called and told me I could pick up the keyboard and pencil. When I went, he said he hadn't expected a shipment until later, but that they received a shipment on Thursday. He then surprised me by giving me the pencil for free. I have been enjoying my Ipad Pro. I wish everyone the best. The launch was not handled in a good way. Let Apple know your opinion.
 
I've ordered it and am going to try it out before making up my mind. However, I just noticed that the return period on the iPad Pro has been increased to well into January. Usually its 14 days. Is this only for the iPad or it for all products.
I think for all products. A friend said she had that return policy for the Apple TV.
 
Just wondering if anyone still had one they were going to be returning? If so what size and colors and whatnot?
If the speaker issue isn't resolved, yes. Otherwise I don't think so. It's an amazingly great iPad, the size is fine... I'm just about used to it. One deal breaker might be if the Apple Pencil sucks or... if Apple doesn't get their act together and release it. Golly what a joke.
 
i've been playing with the ipad pro and am still leaning on returning it, but even without the keyboard case, it's been a better experience as time goes on and i get used to moving back and forth between my BT keyboard and the screen. the multitasking in ios9, albeit limited, is still very useful. i just installed outlook on the ipad and had to put in a bunch of account info for the 9 email accounts...so using split screen i had 1password open on one side and it was very easy to get all the accounts entered into outlook. all this while having a little Hulu window open while i caught up on some shows...

i plan on picking up the logitech keyboard case in the next few days and will try to use the ipad pro as a laptop for the next two months...i think my return date is january 8, so i'll really get to see if it can pass the laptop test. i hope we get a few more smart connected keyboard cases soon so we have more choices...
 
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If the speaker issue isn't resolved, yes. Otherwise I don't think so. It's an amazingly great iPad, the size is fine... I'm just about used to it. One deal breaker might be if the Apple Pencil sucks or... if Apple doesn't get their act together and release it. Golly what a joke.
What speaker issue
 
I am returning the iPad Pro. I used to have the iPad Air 2, and used it primarily for media consumption - specifically, watching movies, sports and youtube videos. I would occasionally use it to browse the web. I bought the iPad Air 2 for $300 bucks off of Craigslist.

My reasoning for paying almost $1,200 for the iPad Pro was that in addition to media consumption, I can use this as a productivity tool or in other words, as a laptop. The dual usage would justify spending $1,200 on this device. IMO, the iPad Air is the better media consumption device ("Tablet") because it is much lighter and more compact, thus making it more comfortable to use. As far as productivity ("Laptop"), the iPad Pro is really weak.
 
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I am returning the iPad Pro. I used to have the iPad Air 2, and used it primarily for media consumption - specifically, watching movies, sports and youtube videos. I would occasionally use it to browse the web. I bought the iPad Air 2 for $300 bucks off of Craigslist.

My reasoning for paying almost $1,200 for the iPad Pro was that in addition to media consumption, I can use this as a productivity tool or in other words, as a laptop. The dual usage would justify spending $1,200 on this device. IMO, the iPad Air is the better media consumption device ("Tablet") because it is much lighter and more compact, thus making it more comfortable to use. As far as productivity ("Laptop"), the iPad Pro is really weak.
Who would buy the iPad pro for just "media consumption"? You should have known the tablet was not as portable by the reviews you seen. It is quite a large tablet and every review emphasized this. Also, it may not be productive for you but it sure is productive for some of us. The Ipad air 2 was met for being a light tablet, hence it's called the "air". I hope you didn't think you were buying a ipad pro air because you wasn't. You had a device that is taking the iPad into another direction, one that is more productive but still allows media consumption and the trade off is that it's a tad bit less portable than the air but very much Portable compared to ultrabooks and laptops. It allows for extra functionality thats not possible on the air such as the apple pencil. Next time read reviews before buying a product that doesn't fit your lifestyle.
 
Next time read reviews before buying a product that doesn't fit your lifestyle.

It's true that it should have been obvious from the reviews that the iPad Pro isn't as portable as the Air. But the reviews and marketing could make it seem that the gains in productivity might offset the decrease in portability. Only way to find out for sure is to buy one and try it.
 
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Who would buy the iPad pro for just "media consumption"? You should have known the tablet was not as portable by the reviews you seen. It is quite a large tablet and every review emphasized this. Also, it may not be productive for you but it sure is productive for some of us. The Ipad air 2 was met for being a light tablet, hence it's called the "air". I hope you didn't think you were buying a ipad pro air because you wasn't. You had a device that is taking the iPad into another direction, one that is more productive but still allows media consumption and the trade off is that it's a tad bit less portable than the air but very much Portable compared to ultrabooks and laptops. It allows for extra functionality thats not possible on the air such as the apple pencil. Next time read reviews before buying a product that doesn't fit your lifestyle.

Hey buddy, can you read?

The iPP's significant markup in weight and size is justified if it can be more than just a media consumption device. It would be insane for anyone to buy this device for $1,200 and use it primarily to consume media, right? That is why, I hoped that the iPP can be a more productive device than the iPad Air (like the SP4), which would justify spending $1,200. Unfortunately, the iPP does not differ much from the iPad Air in terms of functionality. Yes, it's bigger. So what? It's software is no different than on the iPad Air. I can't even mark up Word documents and draft agreements on Word using the iPP. It's a joke when it comes to real work productivity.
 
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I don't have any plans of returning it... I really like the size and the weight. The power that it packs at least right now does feel comparable to my Air 2. I haven't really seen any "pro" features yet but hopefully that will turn around. Right now, carrying both Pro and Air 2 is still lighter than my Air 2 + 15" rMBP...
 
can't even mark up Word documents and draft agreements on Word using the iPP. It's a joke when it comes to real work productivity.

That's because Microsoft hasn't gotten around to updating Word yet. Hopefully they'll do it sooner than later.

I find that iPP does allow me to be a bit more productive than the Air. Yes, it runs the same apps as the Air, but the bigger screen makes tasks like editing documents while having a second window open to reference source material a lot more doable. Whether that increase in productivity is worth the price depends on what kind of work you do, and probably also on your eyesight. If your eyesight is good enough that working in split screen on an Air doesn't bother you, then yes, you don't need the Pro. If like me, you have bad eyesight, the Pro helps A LOT.

Also, $1200 is the price of the LTE model, right? For most productivity tasks, the 32GB WIFI model should work pretty well for $800. Especially when you are comparing it to the MacBooks, which don't have LTE either.
 
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That's because Microsoft hasn't gotten around to updating Word yet. Hopefully they'll do it sooner than later.

I find that iPP does allow me to be a bit more productive than the Air. Yes, it runs the same apps as the Air, but the bigger screen makes tasks like editing documents while having a second window open to reference source material a lot more doable. Whether that increase in productivity is worth the price depends on what kind of work you do, and probably also on your eyesight. If your eyesight is good enough that working in split screen on an Air doesn't bother you, then yes, you don't need the Pro. If like me, you have bad eyesight, the Pro helps A LOT.

Also, $1200 is the price of the LTE model, right? For most productivity tasks, the 32GB WIFI model should work pretty well for $800. Especially when you are comparing it to the MacBooks, which don't have LTE either.

Certainly. The extra real estate does make it useful for split view. What I do like is that I can split view Word and Safari, which surprisingly, I cannot do on OSX. Furthermore, I use Duet which uses the iPad Pro as a second monitor. The resolution isn't quite there but it's serviceable.

When using $1,200 as a price point, I am referring to 128GB ($949), Apple Pencil ($99), Keyboard ($169) which puts the total above $1,200.
 
Certainly. The extra real estate does make it useful for split view. What I do like is that I can split view Word and Safari, which surprisingly, I cannot do on OSX. Furthermore, I use Duet which uses the iPad Pro as a second monitor. The resolution isn't quite there but it's serviceable.

When using $1,200 as a price point, I am referring to 128GB ($949), Apple Pencil ($99), Keyboard ($169) which puts the total above $1,200.

What do you mean you can't split view Ssfari and Word on OS X? Do you have the latest version of OS X?

As for the price of the accessories, I'm happy using my existing Bluetooth keyboard with the Pro, so I don't have to count that. I also don't use the Pencil, but if one of your uses is marking up documents, then I can see why you might want to think that as part of the cost of the device.
 
What do you mean you can't split view Ssfari and Word on OS X? Do you have the latest version of OS X?

As for the price of the accessories, I'm happy using my existing Bluetooth keyboard with the Pro, so I don't have to count that. I also don't use the Pencil, but if one of your uses is marking up documents, then I can see why you might want to think that as part of the cost of the device.

The Pencil is essential for me. So in the latest OS X, if you hold press on the full screen button of any window, it resizes itself so that it fills up one half of the screen much like the split view mode in iOS. It then lays out other windows/programs/apps you have open that are compatible for this viewing arrangement. Unfortunately, in OS X, Microsoft Word is not yet compatible, however, in iOS, as you may already know, MS Word is split view compatible.

FYI, I think Screens and Jump Desktop is a great productivity device as it allows you to access your Macbook Pro or iMac as is. Duet is another great productivity device as well.
 
The Pencil is essential for me. So in the latest OS X, if you hold press on the full screen button of any window, it resizes itself so that it fills up one half of the screen much like the split view mode in iOS. It then lays out other windows/programs/apps you have open that are compatible for this viewing arrangement. Unfortunately, in OS X, Microsoft Word is not yet compatible, however, in iOS, as you may already know, MS Word is split view compatible.

FYI, I think Screens and Jump Desktop is a great productivity device as it allows you to access your Macbook Pro or iMac as is. Duet is another great productivity device as well.
I don't think the original poster requested directions on how to use OSX to do split screen. He was just letting you know that's it's possible but you gave directions lol. It seems like you are becoming quite the annoyance on this thread and just can't appreciate your devices for what they do.
 
Unfortunately, in OS X, Microsoft Word is not yet compatible,

Well, that's totally on Microsoft. I've used Pages in split view on OS X and it works great. But in the end, I found positioning and sizing Windows using BetterSnapTool faster than using split view. That should work with any OS X app, regardless of whether they've been updated for split view.
 
Returned mine today.
Loved the screen when playing a game, web browsing or watching videos, but ...
Incomfortable for me (size, weight) to use as a tablet in the house. I also didn't like:
- the screen is a fingerprint magnet, like if the oleophobic coating was missing.
- too many apps are not optimized for the screen size.
- very slow to charge (seriously, the same charger as the air ???)
- 128gb version is really expensive

Will stick with my air 2 for now.
 
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- very slow to charge (seriously, the same charger as the air ???)

Regarding the charger, it's not the same as the Air. The one that the Pro comes with is 12 watts. Other iPads use a slightly smaller 10 watt charger.

I think a lot of the charging complaints are due to the people assuming they are the same and using chargers from their previous iPads.
 
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Regarding the charger, it's not the same as the Air. The one that the Pro comes with is 12 watts. Other iPads use a slightly smaller 10 watt charger.

I think a lot of the charging complaints are due to the people assuming they are the same and using chargers from their previous iPads.

Maybe. But, the iPad 4 and iPad Air had 12w chargers. The iPad Air 2 has a 10w one.
 
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Returned mine today.
Loved the screen when playing a game, web browsing or watching videos, but ...
Incomfortable for me (size, weight) to use as a tablet in the house. I also didn't like:
- the screen is a fingerprint magnet, like if the oleophobic coating was missing.
- too many apps are not optimized for the screen size.
- very slow to charge (seriously, the same charger as the air ???)
- 128gb version is really expensive

Will stick with my air 2 for now.
I don't know if this is "REAL" or not, but when I first got mine it was charging very slow as well until I noticed the cable it came with was slightly thicker than with previous iPad model cables, so I switched to the thicker one it came with and now it charges quite fast. WEIRD I know, but that is what happened.
 
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