I'm genuinely curious how you manage that. I was trying to get into tagging but just couldn't make it work. Let's say I have 100 customers and from each I have 10 dated backups. Now I want to find the last backup I saved from customer A I think it was sometime in 2008. With folders I go to projects->product name->customerA->backup and see what's in it. As it happens the last one was actually from August 2009. Takes me maybe 10 seconds. With labels I would have to remember exact tag name out of 1000, or have some cross reference file containing label names, and since I didn't even remember what year it was it was never going to happen. I could create additional tag "last backup" or something to the last file at the moment of save, and remove the same from the previous one, but that's again something I'm very likely to forget and additional work - on top of assigning other tags. I'm just curious what system do you have. I can remember very well where I saved the data, the location of it, but there is no way I'm going to remember multiple tags assigned to a single file that would allow me to identify it.
I see people frequently bringing up the superiority of finder over windows explorer, and how the windows one is a dealbreaker, but I just don't use either of them, like at all. I'm so used to dual pane file managers that I can't live without them, on Windows - Total Commander, on MacOS/Linux/Unix - Midnight Commander. Total Commander is just the single most useful piece of software I've ever worked with, unfortunately available only on Windows, I actually have it in Parallels VM and use to manage my files on Macs. MC provides some basic functionality, but doesnt even compare, as is the case with all (I literally tried them all, I mean - paid to try them) dual pane managers from App Store.
sorry I do not write well
I have some really bad dyslexia so tough for me to write etc..
yeah that works for that situation I reckon
and I might do it the same way since backups are not a huge deal to find again ?
if it was named archive or or backup as a tag name which you could just hit when making it you could do a search with the client name the tag backup and sort by latest ? is that quicker no idea and again forcing something to work is not always the easiest as I am also a very visual person so I might do it your way to
also agree has to be easy to do use etc. or it never happens
so we try to keep it simple for the most part and not do to many tags
also I am constantly changing small changes as I need to
I use it a few ways color label/tags are to-do,pending ,done are my main ones
a color for posted to social for my work so I remember which ones I posted
a color for current client
also some clear or invisible ones when you create that are just the circle and you do not see them in the finder but they are there
invoiced, paid (whatever else you want)
I am a photographer and also retoucher so some of it is personal to my biz and some of it is for wifes biz my wife does graphic design layout etc.. she has her own use on top of our mixed she has much more pending kinda things going on and other stuff she uses so this is more my use so we do work together and our own ( having a invisible tag when the client file is created if its hers or mine could help some as a idea and would really something that is done once but will come in lateras example )
if we quickly tag our current clients we are working on with a color lets say we choose Orange and we rename it Current Clients we have a tag and a quick visual
its now pretty quick for me to find our current clients by clicking on the tag in the finder on the left and only see the current say out of 400 + clients we might only be working on a few at any given time
so even this visually is nice to find them quickly or just looking down our list of clients
this is one small way we use labels/tags
so lets say we have a label that is TO-DO and its green
we can use this on a folder for the complete job
or individual files that might be a single retouch in a design or album etc.
sams as say a folder or file that is pending more info or feedback ? lets say that label/tag is yellow and is called Pending
so visually I can now see in the left of my finder (put the labels I want there) any of those files or folders or whatever by just hitting that label on the left and either look inside or sort down really depends on how much is going on etc..
I use this a lot !!!!
NOW comes the best part though is smart searches
start a new search
lets say we want one click for current clients and pending files
just make a custom search with label yellow (or tag Current Clients)
and then hold down the option key and your + turns to 3 dots ...
you then have any all or none in the search so we could then choose Tags and matches pending
and save that as a smart search on the side bar that way with one click you only see the current clients pending
of course you could do the same and then put in folder as the kind near the top to help narrow down etc..
now if you had someone else working here is where that tag owner could come in I could make one for my wifes work one for mine ? we do not have that much pending I feel I need it but its a example of how you could use it
I can look up who I have billed in accounting or a spreadsheet
but having it handy for the job folder is nice to so I can create a smart search for current clients and invoiced but not paid and quickly see what is not paid
this can be handy if a client says OH that job XXX I thought it was 37 files you retouched ? or just to give a super quick one click look in finder without opening and looking up in another program etc.. and look and say NOPE it was 43 I did for ya
so my smart search of current clients invoiced will allow me to find that quick but again chances are if I KNOW the client I might just click to the color label on the finder called current clients (avoid looking at all) and go OK its Bob and just click his name and view it that way ?
again I just use the simple visual a lot
but the invisible tags and smart searches are great tools also in combinations etc..
but I might have done 4 jobs one day and 3 the next and then invoice those or invoice weekly so again having that quick one hit way to see what is invoiced or done is handy (custom search current done not invoiced as example)
same thing again I can have my favorite folder and tag which ones I post and do a smart search to see which ones I have not if I want to post some new images
yeah I can do this in other programs but I do find it handy to just have on hand in the finder without having to open another program etc..
or something like current client pending longer then 2 weeks and use that as a quick visual or follow up to see whats happening now again example
I might do that in another program or in a calendar so just sharing ideas
hope this helps and again sorry if its hard to read
I need to make some videos
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I see people frequently bringing up the superiority of finder over windows explorer, and how the windows one is a dealbreaker, but I just don't use either of them, like at all. I'm so used to dual pane file managers that I can't live without them, on Windows - Total Commander, on MacOS/Linux/Unix - Midnight Commander. Total Commander is just the single most useful piece of software I've ever worked with, unfortunately available only on Windows, I actually have it in Parallels VM and use to manage my files on Macs. MC provides some basic functionality, but doesnt even compare, as is the case with all (I literally tried them all, I mean - paid to try them) dual pane managers from App Store.
to hit on this
I never try to be THIS is the way it is I try to say this is like Pizza I like it a certain way and so do you
and their is no perfect but its for ME or IMHO
while I forget that I tend to speak from my position so kinda intended
hahahahahah
I used to work a lot in windows before OS X and some after and for me the lack of quickly tagging of all file types and quick easy customizing the left pane of file explorer and the smart preview and column view are deal breakers and of course my color management if they go that fixed it would be worth it for the hardware
i tried the total commander also some older one that had some kinda rough column view but it was nowhere near native of OS X
I do think everyone has dif needs if you are juggling a lot of clients and various stages one has to find what works for them
most folks are just working on their own stuff and often limited number of it as they do the job get done and onto the next or might have a couple job overlap as a photographer waiting for client to choose album files as example
my daughter hates windows loves OS X my boy (10) loves windows but mostly because its a good gaming setup its actually for tethered capture but he gets to use it a intel 7820x with a 1080 GPU NVMe 1TB data SSD boot and 32GB mem (asus MB and meshify case)
I work on a color accurate monitor buy my 2nd is a 34 inch ultra-wide dell monitor not gaming comp awesome but still pretty awesome for the ultrawide experience with a good cpu and gpu decent I do love it more then the PS4
even at 55 I am still a gamer as part of the tech fun I love
I also think its important my kids (everyone) to have solid experience with both systems !
building a new mac mini for the wife and have a i7 with a external GPU and the thing is really nice closer to my 7820x box then I thought it would be !!!! so I also think hardware is not the issue anymore with Adobe its Adobe itself that gets in the way and really needs some serious optimizing but in programs like capture one the PC has solid gains with the GPU used properly !!!
maybe to the point of folks jumping ship on this thread choose each one for the best as a photographer this is like having primes and zooms why dump one or the other
gaming have both PC and console
although PC is superior for performance but working on a computer all day sitting in front of a nice TV and on the couch is just kinda more fun
