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Not for nothing, I think its natural for some people to get caught up in the hype and excitement but then once the dust cleared they realized they perhaps should have held off.
Oh it’ll happen. It’s happned to me. For me, I just know the notch is something I won’t get used to but I love the OLED inclusion.

I got an 8+ because my old 6+ was lagging and getting hot after iOS 11. I realized I love Touch ID and most of the features in the 10 are in the 8+. Realistically, I’d still be just using Facebook and Reddit the same. Plus I just got my first iPad so I’ll be using that more.

But I’m on the IUP program so any X problems should be resolved next year. Then I’ll take the plunge.
 
Not for nothing, I think its natural for some people to get caught up in the hype and excitement but then once the dust cleared they realized they perhaps should have held off.
I wanted the X...also wanted the AW3. My compromise was the 8+ on the phone side and still got the watch before the X came out. I don’t use the camera that much so it is mostly about speed and the processor upgrade for me. There is a noticeable speed difference coming from a 7 to an 8+ as well as battery life and that part is the same as the X. Do I still want and would I still prefer the X- not gonna lie, yes I would, OLED would be fantastic. I trade in phones with my carrier every year so I love the latest and greatest. I am going to pay the 8+ off to actually have a good backup (last of the touch id)and get whatever the flagship phone is next year. So that is my excuse for getting the 8+/AW3 duo and it works for me.
 
Well, if you stop making your monthly payments, wouldn't AT&T just blacklist your phone from all networks? So you don't even have control of "your" phone then...

No. If you stop making your monthly payments, your account gets shut off and sent to collections. The account is paid off to AT&T from the collection agency. It’s just like not paying your bill when you had a 2 yr contract, they would just tack on the termination fee and send your account to collections.

That being said, they reserve the right to but I’ve yet to see it happen.

However an individual can pay off their phone at any time so I fail to see why this is an argument.

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How in the heck do you own something that you are renting? Commonsense 101 out the window. I’d like to see you walk away from what you OWE, and get away with it.

They send the account to collections. They won’t repo the product.
 
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The thing I'm confused about is why anybody at this point would consider cancelling after they've made their order due to an immediate regret. It's not like this was a spur of the moment surprise purchase. We've known for a month and a half that this phone was on the way, and had that entire time to make the decision to purchase or not based on our budgets and/or personal needs.
I’ve been on the fence about it for months. I bought the 7 knowing that I would still upgrade this year to the X. I can afford it, but now I’m questioning if it’s really worth it to buy it. Since I was on the fence, I decided if I got a delivery date of 11/3 when I preordered then I would keep my order, but if it was delayed then I would cancel my order. I got a delivery date of 12/5-12/11 so I should cancel my order, but I still want the phone. But it would probably be smarter to drop that extra $2,000 (my wife and I always get new phones together) in my retirement account. But I’m ahead of schedule in my retirement fund so it’s not really necessary but it just seems so lavish when we both have the iPhone 7 which is a totally reasonable device.

Lol I know I’m just rambling. I know that I don’t think it’s worth the price to me, but I’m obsessed with it and I can’t tear myself from either side.
 
I wanted the X...also wanted the AW3
I've gone back and forth with both. Both products offer their own advantages but both have their disadvantages.

I'm not sure about a gen 1 phone, and on the AW3 case - I'm not jazzed up about dropping 3 bills on a watch that functionally speaking doesn't do much different then my series 0. I don't want to derail this thread and there's plenty of Series 0 owners that praise the AW3 and state its worth it. For me, I'd still like to get more time out of it before spending $$
 
I've gone back and forth with both. Both products offer their own advantages but both have their disadvantages.

I'm not sure about a gen 1 phone, and on the AW3 case - I'm not jazzed up about dropping 3 bills on a watch that functionally speaking doesn't do much different then my series 0. I don't want to derail this thread and there's plenty of Series 0 owners that praise the AW3 and state its worth it. For me, I'd still like to get more time out of it before spending $$

If anything, out of personal experience, the jump I made from the Series 0 AW to the series 2, the speed increase itself was worth it, hands down. Along with the improved water resistance.
 
There are a lot of posts all over MR about people buying the phone with intentions of returning it. Am I the only one who feels bad about returning an item that won’t be able to be resold as new simply so I can try it out? All of us are very familiar with the specs of the device and we’ve watched the videos. There aren’t really going to be any surprises. Apple puts demo models in the store for the purposes of getting a hands on before you buy. I would only return it if I had a problem with it, but I frequently read on here people will buy both colors, open them both up, try them out and return the color they don’t like as much. This seems messed up to me.
 
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Not to be nitpicky, but I feel like “lease” is the wrong word here
Lease is 100% the correct term. You don't own the phone until and unless you make the final balloon payment at the end to purchase the phone from T-Mobile.
 
Yes, I cancelled my preorder because I’m really unsure about the Face ID. Also, don’t think this OLED phone is worth $1,000. I’m not sure what to do now because I actually need a phone. Android is out of the question.

Get the 8/8+. I’m a huge tech nerd for new gadgets, but this time I went for the 8 even though I had the 7. The differences are minor but I’ve noticed it big time. I’m happy with my 8.
 
Lease is 100% the correct term. You don't own the phone until and unless you make the final balloon payment at the end to purchase the phone from T-Mobile.

Lease is only the correct term if you Are required return the item at the end of said installment plan. If you aren’t, then it is not a lease.
 
Lease is 100% the correct term. You don't own the phone until and unless you make the final balloon payment at the end to purchase the phone from T-Mobile.

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“A contract to rent”

Unless I’m mistaken. Feel free to further correct me
 
Bought mine outright and don't regret it at all. The NEXT/iUP/Jump type programs only make sense for Android phones. iPhones hold their value well enough that if you're upgrading within the cycles in these programs you're throwing money away by not purchasing and selling your old used one.
 
Lease is only the correct term if you Are required return the item at the end of said installment plan. If you aren’t, then it is not a lease.

Of course it’s no longer a lease after you make your final payment but it still a lease since you still have payments. Or you can say rent to own. Still not yours until the final payment
 
Of course it’s no longer a lease after you make your final payment but it still a lease since you still have payments. Or you can say rent to own. Still not yours until the final payment

Ownership of the Asset. In an installment sale, the ownership transfers to the user at the end of the installment period. Whereas in a case of lease financing, the lessee has to transfer the asset to the lessor after the end of the lease period and the lessee has an option to purchase or not to purchase the asset.

There is a tangible difference between a lease and an installment plan.
 
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Isn’t this the takeaway?
Dude/dudette, I feel like I may be talking to a preteen here. What you have highlighted is the definition of what a lease is. That's the obvious takeaway. You are renting/leasing someone else's property. You own nothing. You must give the property back by the end of the lease unless you mutually agree to purchase the property.
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Lease is only the correct term if you Are required return the item at the end of said installment plan. If you aren’t, then it is not a lease.

You ARE required to return the item at the end of the installment plan. edit: For the avoidance of doubt, I'm using your term of "installment plan". We're talking about Jump on Demand which is a lease.
 
Dude/dudette, I feel like I may be talking to a preteen here. What you have highlighted is the definition of what a lease is. That's the obvious takeaway. You are renting/leasing someone else's property. You own nothing. You must give the property back by the end of the lease unless you mutually agree to purchase the property.
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You ARE required to return the item at the end of the installment plan.

Wrong. I have an installment plan with AT&T, and am NOT required to return the phone at the end. Therefor it is not a lease. Semantics though. Let’s not argue like children.
 
Dude/dudette, I feel like I may be talking to a preteen here. What you have highlighted is the definition of what a lease is. That's the obvious takeaway. You are renting/leasing someone else's property. You own nothing. You must give the property back by the end of the lease unless you mutually agree to purchase the property.
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You ARE required to return the item at the end of the installment plan. edit: For the avoidance of doubt, I'm using your term of "installment plan". We're talking about Jump on Demand which is a lease.

You know you’ve already won whatever argument when the other person makes personal insults.
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it’s already been explained to you very articulately by the other person as well, so if you don’t understand at this point, well? Don’t know what to say
 
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Wrong. I have an installment plan with AT&T, and am NOT required to return the phone at the end. Therefor it is not a lease. Semantics though. Let’s not argue like children.
T-Mobile has an installment plan which is referred to as an EIP. You wandered into the middle of a conversation about Jump on Demand which is a LEASE. Your AT&T anecdote is completely irrelevant to JoD.
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You know you’ve already won whatever argument when the other person makes personal insults.
WINNNNNNNNNN

it’s already been explained to you very articulately by the other person as well, so if you don’t understand at this point, well? Don’t know what to say
My prior posts speak for themselves with respect to the facts. People can judge for themselves. As for you, you're on my block list now. Ciao.
 
T-Mobile has an installment plan which is referred to as an EIP. You wandered into the middle of a conversation about Jump on Demand which is a LEASE. Your AT&T anecdote is completely irrelevant to JoD.
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My prior posts speak for themselves with respect to the facts. People can judge for themselves. As for you, you're on my block list now. Ciao.

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Block list? This is a person that takes life way too seriously
 
I've gone back and forth with both. Both products offer their own advantages but both have their disadvantages.

I'm not sure about a gen 1 phone, and on the AW3 case - I'm not jazzed up about dropping 3 bills on a watch that functionally speaking doesn't do much different then my series 0. I don't want to derail this thread and there's plenty of Series 0 owners that praise the AW3 and state its worth it. For me, I'd still like to get more time out of it before spending $$

This is my first AW, so no question the 3 was the one to get. I don’t see the watch as an upgrade every year item and want to get moneys worth from it, so I agree with you on that.

My phone is an every year upgrade which may not be needed but is something I want. Is the 8+ the greatest of the new phones? Obviously not, but it is an upgrade from my 7 in size and is faster as well so I am happy with it. Apple always has people complaining when the new phones come out each year because they haven’t done enough. Same talk this year about the X and why offer the 8 models at all. Is Apple getting slammed for providing more options with the same processor? They have always had options with the previous years releases available. Am I not enough of a fan because I didn’t get the X? Maybe not, but I applaud the options this year and they are all good phones. I upgraded my phone and still got the AW3 so it is still a win for me.
 
Back on track...

I was unable to get on the Apple Store App at 3:00 am east coast US time Friday. At 3:10 am Friday I got into the website on my Mac and completed the order at 3:16 am. I received a Nov 17-24 delivery on my iPhone X order and I am glad, here's why.

I have a jet black 7+ still running iOS 10.3.3, which I love as it has been both beautiful and flawless. I also had the 6+ and 6s+, both of which were great phones in their day. I am unsure whether or not I am going to like going from the 7+ to the iPhone X, I am simply going to have to see and hold the phone, which I plan to do at the Apple Store on Nov 3-5. I will then either look forward to the new phone I ordered or cancel my order, I will make my mind up after playing with it.

I bought my wife an iPhone 8+, which she loves. For her, it's all about screen size and 16:9.

If I cancel the order, I will wait and hope Apple perfects a X+ type iPhone.
 
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