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Love my iPhone5, best phone that I have owned to date. Use Navigon for mapping until things get sorted out. Works great. I have used all major brands of phones Android, BB, iPhone etc. and this phone is the best for me. Got the 64 gig model.
 
I totally get the too light argument and for me it's valid as well. I'm not talking about something that pulls your shorts down heavy but the 4/4S have always felt rock solid and like quality devices.

The 4S had a nice feel to it, but at the same time, Apple's design direction is for thinner and lighter devices. I actually like how the aluminum feels. It's very similar to my MacBook Air. Think of this as the "iPhone Air."

For all the attention that the black one is getting, I think the white phone looks sharp. It sparkles in the right light, and the two-toned look has grown on me.
 
I'd give the white one a try. It is far less susceptible to the "scuffing" issue, and after nearly a week, mine looks just as sharp as it did when I took it out of the box. That said, I think there may have been a bad batch of black phones as I've seen display models that look great, as well, even after you can tell they have been handled quite a bit.

Regarding the weight, it does take some getting used to, but OTOH I know a lot of people complained that the glass back on the old model broke too easily. I can see both sides.

As for the Lightning connector, it would have been an issue one day, anyway. The longer they delayed the changeover, the harder it would have been. Now was as good a time as any.

You don't get LTE on Vodafone, but for me, I can't see going back to the 4S because I'd give up LTE. Between LTE and the fast processor, everything seems so much snappier to me on the 5. You do get DC-HSDPA on the 5, though.

I'm with Vodafone too, but living rurally like the majority of people in the UK LTE or the lack of it isn't too much of an issue to me either.

EE's launch map is a joke and I can't see Vodafone's LTE coverage being much wider at launch whenever that is next year, by which time I reckoned there might be a new iPhone which solves the no LTE with Vodafone problem.
Vodafone's concentrating on Dual Carrier using the existing 3G network is quite interesting though. Might provide a good middle ground in the meantime.

I am thinking about the white phone. I have a Genius Bar appointment tomorrow when I plan to swap my 4S over at the same time for a new one - The green battery charging LED leaked a long yellow run down the right side of the screen about 3 months ago!

With regards the glass back on the 4S, I didn't know they were suffering from breakages. My phone has been dropped onto concrete and Tarmac more times than I care to remember. The only marks I've got are to the edges, but it's never cracked or broken.

I have to say in the couple of days I used ios6 on my 4s I found it really quite fast compared to ios5, and can't see a difference in speed on iPhone 5. That said, I guess it depends what sort of use we each put our phones to. For me it's just Safari, Mail, Message and various utility apps such as train, flight, hotel, Newspaper, car hire and Spotify apps. The iPad does everything else on the move and the only use it gets at home is as a remote for the ATVs.
 
I've experienced the touchscreen thing the OP is talking about on both my new iPhone 5 and my old iPhone 4S, since the upgrade to iOS 6. I think that may be an iOS 6 issue somehow.
 
I went to have a look at the iPhone 5 today. Was going to get an S3 but decided to wait as I've had iPhones for a few years now.

The screen is a massive let down for me, every time I picked it up I wanted to pull the sides and stretch it a little.

Love the thinnes, love the weight and feel in the hand, and the back on black is lovely but the screen just looks ridiculous to me, like a lanky teenager all awkward and waiting to 'fill out'. iOS 6 looks obviously the same as 5 so no issue there. Since they didn't make the screen wider to fit the new height I personally would have preferred they stay with the 3.5"

But the S3 screen in person is just a little too big for me. So I have zero idea what to do. I'm bored of the 4s, since I had the 4 before it and so have basically had the same phone for two years. But there's no phone I want to upgrade to.
 
I'm with Vodafone too, but living rurally like the majority of people in the UK LTE or the lack of it isn't too much of an issue to me either.

I am thinking about the white phone. I have a Genius Bar appointment tomorrow when I plan to swap my 4S over at the same time for a new one - The green battery charging LED leaked a long yellow run down the right side of the screen about 3 months ago!

With regards the glass back on the 4S, I didn't know they were suffering from breakages. My phone has been dropped onto concrete and Tarmac more times than I care to remember. The only marks I've got are to the edges, but it's never cracked or broken.

To clarify, I'm on AT&T and in an LTE zone. Here in Manhattan, my download speeds are 10x as fast as what I was used to with their HSPA+ network.

As for the 4S, it depends on the angle in which it was dropped. A colleague dropped his phone about 3 feet and the glass shattered into pieces. Fortunately the Apple Store was able to fix it for about $30, but it was still an inconvenience. Obviously that can still happen with the front.
 
I think for your needs you have a good argument. I have the white iPhone 5 and it still looks like it does out of the box. Yes it has only been a week haha. I only need to get a new cable for my car stereo and an adapter for my dock at work, but I would definitely not want to replace all the accessories you have. My recommendation since you don't have LTE in your area is try the white one for a week, of that still doesn't work, go back to your 4S until the lighting connector is more widely available.
 
For the few in this thread that didn't read his full post, let me summarize it for you. He NEVER said he was going to Android, he said he's going back to his 4s.
 
Absolutely love the iPhone 5, it feels like a huge upgrade from the 4S. And the new lightning cable is great. I ran through so many 30 pin cables over the years, it's nice to finally have a cable that feels like it's built to last.
 
Great post. I wish more people had this mentality enough so that Apple would actually care to do something about it but i'm afraid there are too many loyal/clueless Apple fans out there for this to ever happen...:(

You my friend are the one that is clueless...if we all had ur mentality, we'd never have any advancement whatsoever. I cannot believe the sheer ignorance over the new dock connector. Do u realize that the 30 pin connector is ugly, HUGE, & outdated???

PLEASE get a phone u like and join the appropriate forum.
 
I got the iPhone 5. It was too light, too thin and too fast. I decided to switch back to my analog Startac. The black doesn't wear off.

I love my iPhone 5. I knew the black anondizing would be a problem having experience with anondized aluminium in the past. I got it anyway because it looks all stealth and ninja like. Its been fine for me so far.
 
I am in no way anti-Apple. No, in fact, you're a fanboy. You just don't want to admit it. All of the hardware in my home and business is Apple and I have had iPhones since the 3G, Yep! but having spent a week with my new 5, I've had enough. I am not going to enjoy typing this, and am extremely disappointed to be so unhappy with something Apple given the money I've invested in the company's products and the loyalty I have for the brand.

The final straw is noticing the the edge of the band is just starting to lose its colour, if you consider this a flaw with the product, you can take it /send it back - absolutely no questions asked - after 1 week - or exchange it - your right as a consumer! with tiniest amount of silver just starting to wear through......ok, I'm going to say it, boo hoo... and before anyone says it, I really don't see why I should expect a £529GBP piece of hardware to start to look tatty with normal use within a week. Like I said - take it back
It has been used normally in the same way as all of my previous iPhone's and lives in my trouser or jacket pocket with whatever else is in there at the time. So keys, coins etc? Hmmm... In one week my 5 looks worse than the just over 12 month old 4S it's replaced. Take. It. Back.

The lightning cable is a total pain. I have TomTom iPhone 4 cradle, a charger upstairs, one downstairs and one in my iMac plus a car charger......and one lightning cable that I keep having to take everywhere with me as the lightning adapters don't seem to be available anywhere in the UK yet, least of all Apple itself. So, you didn't know it had a new cable? Behave...

And when they are available I don't really want to invest money in a load of adapters that aren't compatible with the iPad2 that is also charged with the existing cables that I already have in different parts of the house.

I also don't want to have to remember to take another piece of plastic with me when I take regular trips with my iPad and iPhone.

The touch screen has been problematic from the getgo, often needing to be touched 4 or 5 times to get a reaction.

I don't like the way it feels in my hand. The 4/S feels lovely to hold and use in a way that the 5 just....doesn't. It feels too big, too light and frankly, quite cheap and tinny compared to the 4S. You really didn't think this through did you? You just went out and bought one, to be one of the first didn't you? There's nothing that Apple's done that you didn't know about before the launch, weren't aware of, or wasn't explained to you - but you went right ahead, and bought a product FULLY KNOWING what the score was, and yet, still went ahead regardless... You're even more of a fanboy than you realise...
The longer screen is great if you watch videos or play games, but for general usage I find it quite cumbersome. Seriously?

I know this is terribly negative, but there are genuinely so many things I just don't like about it.
This is the first Apple product that I have fallen out with......The iPhone 4S was a huge leap in terms of quality and over all feel and looks over the 3G with its plastic back, but I really think the 5 is a retrograde step compared to the 4. Again, so you didn't know it was lighter before you bought it? At what weight does it have to go down to, to NOT become lacking in quality? You're like a teenager complaining about a hair out of place...

Whenever anything Apple has been launched before, there's always been something ultra special and innovative about it that has set it apart even from its own products let alone other brands. With the 5 there is nothing at all really!

So as of tomorrow my 5 is up for sale before it looks any worse, and I shall be very happy to go back to my lovely, chunky, quality feeling 4S....Just have to get Vodafone to give me a microsim again! As has been said, GO BACK TO APPLE if you feel you have a genuine, statutory complaint

We'll see what comes out next year and perhaps try again.

I know you probably hate me, and my sarcastic tone right now, but can I give you one piece of advice, before you purchase your next Apple product? Why don't you WAIT. Read some books - maybe something on Buddhist Zen - about managing greed, and wanting everything that your neighbours/peers have as soon as is possibly available. Seriously, you sound quite 'finicky' as we say in the UK - quite fussy or picky maybe - maybe you knew that, maybe you don't realise how you come across.

But my advice is simple:

Why don't you wait the next time an Apple product is launched? Why don't you give it - say - 3-4 weeks. That's all. just 3 or 4 weeks of time, in your precious life. Go into an Apple store. Talk to friends who have one. Go onto forums. Pick one up, and feel one. Touch it. Smell it. Caress it. Read reviews. And then, maybe, make up your mind constructively before spending over £500 on a bloody phone. Rather than pre-ordering a piece of kit you haven't even seen before, felt before, picked up before or has been reviewed before, or that you have properly assessed prior to parting with your precious money, and then complaining to high heaven when it doesn't meet YOUR satisfaction. Just so you can be one of the first.

Ignore my advice if you want, that's fine. But just my opinion...
 
I am very very close to parting with my iPhone5...

Here is my device history for reference:
Several Windows Mobile phones -> iPhone 3GS -> Nexus One -> iPhone4 -> Sensation -> Galaxy S2 -> Galaxy Nexus -> iPhone 4S -> iPhone5

Unlike the OP, I have no problems with the way that the iPhone5 looks in general, or how much it weighs, I think it is a pretty attractive device overall, the reason that I am unhappy with it is the poor quality control that has resulted in my iphone5 and many others in being lemons...

My Major beef:


I have wifi issues.
I am consistantly unable to browse webpages intermittently, I can no longer use my phone to airplay to my appletv without stuttering and dropouts.. The experience is unsuable. I even tried removing WPA2 protection and went unsecured... little improvement. The apple store is replacing my unit for this... but they don't have any replacements in stock, so I am on a waiting list currently.

My Minor Beef:

While Pretty, the painted bands aren't the best choice
I'm not going extreme yelling "scuffgate" here... I fully understand that my black edges will eventually scratch with normal use. I just think this was a poor design decision here... while the painted bands look very nice... the silver aluminum bands of the 4 and 4S were very pretty and very durable as well, bare metal when scratched is not very noticeable. I think they should have just left the bands alone and bare, would have saved themselves the complaints.


Lightning USB
I don't want to complain about this, because I like the lightning adaper, its more practical and easier to use / smaller and probably more durable. Its just painful to make the transition. When I misplaced my one and only cable and couldn't recharge my phone until I found it... makes you mad.


The Screen
Once again, I am in a love/hate predicament here. The screen has beautiful accurate colors and is incredibly clear... nothing else like it. Coming from some larger screened android devices.. The iphone 4S I had felt small.. With the iPhone5 I was so excited for a larger screen.... but guess what... most applications still haven't stretched to the larger size, so you are sitting there with your slightly larger screen thinking you are all cool, when really you run your applications and they are exactly the same size as the 4S before... yeah this will be fixed in a few months... but still.. makes you mad.

The ONLY reason I returned to an iPhone from my Galaxy Nexus was because of the pentile display... I loved the nexus other than this one issue, if you do go android, please do yourself a favor and avoid anything with Pentile. I cannot stand to use them.

So what do I do?
I'm sitting here with an over $900 after tax device (64GB no commitment iphone5), and since I use T-mobile, my data speed is essentially worthless(until the refarm happens).. my wifi doesn't work, and with no connectivity, it barely functions to do anything other than texts and calling. The larger screen size isn't really larger on most applications, I can't charge it right now because I only have one cable at the moment and it is at home, I also can't copy my music over to it even if I had my cable, because I sync my device at home... and I just sit here and think... I paid for this?

My options are these:
A)Keep the iPhone5 and wait it out
Apple will replace my iphone with the wifi issues and eventually resolve them, I'll get a case and forget about the edge scratching (not that I really care), and developers will get their iphone5 compatible apps out. I will eventually be happy.

B)Sell the iPhone5 and get a Galaxy S III
-THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN unless samsung gets rid of the pentile display... I will NEVER purchase anything with a pentile display again.

C)Get a HTC One X... I wish I could... No support on T-mobile right now... :(

D)Be angry and write a big post on macrumors

I have no options except D,... *sigh* all I've really wanted for the past year on either android or iOS was a stable, bug free ~720p resolution phone on with a nice reasonably sized display (no pentile) . I was hoping apple could do this for me.... maybe the iphone5 will get there, but right now, with all the "catches" on all of the improvements of the iPhone5 I am currently unhappy.
 
Yeah I didn't like it,I am returning mine and wait for the Samsung Galaxy Note II.
 
I am thinking about the white phone. I have a Genius Bar appointment tomorrow when I plan to swap my 4S over at the same time for a new one - The green battery charging LED leaked a long yellow run down the right side of the screen about 3 months ago!

What are you talking about? :confused::confused:

What green battery charging LED is on the iPhone 4S...or any iPhone for that matter?
 
The lightning cable is a total pain. I have TomTom iPhone 4 cradle, a charger upstairs, one downstairs and one in my iMac plus a car charger......and one lightning cable that I keep having to take everywhere with me as the lightning adapters don't seem to be available anywhere in the UK yet, least of all Apple itself.

Granted the wearing of the black anodizing is failure on Apples part, but you completely missed the boat IRT the connector.

Having that many 30p accessories means a major shift when you get the 5 with only one cable.

I do thing Apple could have done a much better job with the switch.
Much better.
 
I got the iPhone 5. It was too light, too thin and too fast. I decided to switch back to my analog Startac. The black doesn't wear off.

I love my iPhone 5. I knew the black anondizing would be a problem having experience with anondized aluminium in the past. I got it anyway because it looks all stealth and ninja like. Its been fine for me so far.

Startac, that little waif of a phone. I returned my startac for a real phone, it was to light and the black scratched to easily.

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returned mine 2 days ago. haven't missed it one bit.

5 felt like my old s2 in the hand. too flimsy, light and cheap.

4s feels and looks like a more premium device and only fanboys will deny this fact.
 
What i'm scratching my head over with those that are returning is this; Do you guys seriously expect Apple to go back to the 4S design next year?

The iPhone 5S/6 will carry this exact same design but with upgraded components thats all. This is it for the next 24 months. Unless you want to wait for iPhone 6S/7 in which case be my guest.

I have no options except D,... *sigh* all I've really wanted for the past year on either android or iOS was a stable, bug free ~720p resolution phone on with a nice reasonably sized display (no pentile) . I was hoping apple could do this for me.... maybe the iphone5 will get there, but right now, with all the "catches" on all of the improvements of the iPhone5 I am currently unhappy.

Lumia 920 or HTC 8X

returned mine 2 days ago. haven't missed it one bit.

5 felt like my old s2 in the hand. too flimsy, light and cheap.

4s feels and looks like a more premium device and only fanboys will deny this fact.

Haha. Classic. ANYONE who disagrees with you IS a fanboy. You should become a politician. You'd be great at it.
 
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I read these topics just for the hilarious comments. Haha.

I agree. The greed (yes, greed!) and avaricious desire to have an unseen, untouched, unreviewed iPhone before peers/colleagues/family/friends, overrides any sense of rationality and perspective!
Apple fanboys are in denial, and just cannot see it... it makes for hilarious reading...
 
I know you probably hate me, and my sarcastic tone right now, but can I give you one piece of advice, before you purchase your next Apple product? Why don't you WAIT. Read some books - maybe something on Buddhist Zen - about managing greed, and wanting everything that your neighbours/peers have as soon as is possibly available. Seriously, you sound quite 'finicky' as we say in the UK - quite fussy or picky maybe - maybe you knew that, maybe you don't realise how you come across.

But my advice is simple:

Why don't you wait the next time an Apple product is launched? Why don't you give it - say - 3-4 weeks. That's all. just 3 or 4 weeks of time, in your precious life. Go into an Apple store. Talk to friends who have one. Go onto forums. Pick one up, and feel one. Touch it. Smell it. Caress it. Read reviews. And then, maybe, make up your mind constructively before spending over £500 on a bloody phone. Rather than pre-ordering a piece of kit you haven't even seen before, felt before, picked up before or has been reviewed before, or that you have properly assessed prior to parting with your precious money, and then complaining to high heaven when it doesn't meet YOUR satisfaction. Just so you can be one of the first.

Ignore my advice if you want, that's fine. But just my opinion...

Smell it? What is it with you guys across the pond? :apple:
 
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