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New Model Macbook Pro 2008 Mod's?

I am also keen to know if anyone out there has any info on upgrading the screens in the current 2008 Macbook Pro 2.6's.. Some models would be good so I can order one from eBay.

Recently water damaged my screen and if I am going to replace it I want to get some nice resolution along with the new one ;)

Macbook Pro 2.6
4GB Corsair Ram
320GB Samsung HD (500GB to come soon)!!
 
I am also keen to know if anyone out there has any info on upgrading the screens in the current 2008 Macbook Pro 2.6's.. Some models would be good so I can order one from eBay.

Recently water damaged my screen and if I am going to replace it I want to get some nice resolution along with the new one ;)

Macbook Pro 2.6
4GB Corsair Ram
320GB Samsung HD (500GB to come soon)!!

Guys, PLEASE read previous posts to see if your question has already been answered. This one has already been answered many, many times over and over again. I know that a lot of people come on here without a clue as to how LCD panels work and post the first question that pops into their head, which is always, "hey, can I do this with my spanking new LED macbook pro wondertoy?"

A lot of people have put a lot of hard work into making this thread work for people who are serious about what they are doing and actually read other people's posts to see if their idea has already occurred to someone else. Please be courteous and respect that.
 
I have actually read the entire thread but it does not mention of anyone doing this with the new models that have just been released. I understand they have LED not LCD Technology so finding a suitable rep screen seems to be a problem so far.
 
Screen delivery expected today...

OK, I'm a bit of a noob to this thread, but my screen arrives today and I'm going to change it out. In the past, I've replaced the HD on my MBP and replaced a screen on my old 12" Powerbook, so I think I'll be OK to change out the screen on my MBP.

The instructions above by noetus and those external links look pretty foolproof. I'll give it a go and report back on my progress. If it works, I'll have taken advantage of all the work the hundreds (almost thousands) of comments and related hours of efforts you've all put in before me...
 
The rundown...

12:20 Look outside, package on doorstep.. Can't the fedex guy be troubled to ring the bell?
12:25 Opened box... Screen looks perfect! Thank you nameless EBay company...
12:35 Finish Lunch
12:40 Open up this page, ifixit and screentek in three windows on the desktop to guide me through this
12:40 start ifixit disassembly
12:48 step 6/8 "disconnect the two antenna cables..." I have three! confidence shrinks...
I wish they noted if those iSight, inverter and fan cables pulled out or up...
12:59 the display is off the MBP. Moving to screentek disassembly

1:07: Man, unhinging that bezel is a bitch! I actually used a tiny flat screwdriver right next to the hole for the shell screws. There's no way mere mortal hands can push that bezel off. Screentek lies!
1:26 Screen is completely out. Man, that glue holding the screen to the frame is a bigger bitch!
1:39 Booting up the old screen with the laptop in pieces... and it works!
1:40 Put the screen to sleep and started switching... Hit the trackpad and woke the machine up! Reboot and try again. Strike 1.
145: Put the new screen in, woke it up, and it's almost black... I can see however the faintness of my background. I think it's kind of working but too dark to read. Powered it off with the cable and try again. Strike 2.
1:50: Third try: It works! Two words "Suh Weet!!!" And for those of you (Steve J) who don't think the screen is readable at this resolution, you've got another thing coming. Took a picture and shut down normally. Time to put this baby back together.

2:40 after a couple of miscues - "wait - those wires needed to be threaded through those holes" and "how did they get out of there?" The screen is back assembled. That was frustrating. Back to iFixit

3:00 MBP, back together and on.

It was worth the effort...

I hope the next rev of these 15" MBPs comes with a high res screen...
 
Other thoughts...

This LG display rocks. I'm not sure if it was because my other display was on the way out, but this display is much brighter. And this smaller text is much easier on my eyes because it's so much crisper. Too bad Apple can't offer this as an option on any MBP.

Special thinks to noetus for summarizing all this info. It was a big help! Having this much real estate makes it much easier to stay in MacOS and just use VMWare to get at my bootcamp partition.
 
Wow

[...] I asked what I asked because I wanted to know if anyone had done this mod with a LED panel and got the response I was looking for. [...]
 
@louden: great that you got it working, and relatively painlessly, too!

I wanted to note a couple of things. First, when reassembling the MBP and at the stage of putting the keyboard back on (which is a very satisfying stage - you've already tested the display and you know it's working, and reassembly is very straightforward from this point onwards) you have to press fairly firmly all the way along the edges of the keyboard to get it to "click" into place. Be careful not to press too hard at the edge that is above the Superdrive slot. Because of the slot, the case edge is weaker here and can be bent downwards fairly easily. A bend of a mm or so may not be easily noticeable to the naked eye, but I discovered that it can interfere with the operation of the Superdrive, if the bend downwards cases pressure from your palm resting on the case there being exerted on it. That pressure caused my Superdrive to scratch a couple of disks rather heavily (rendering them useless), I think because the pressure from my palm was transmitted through the case onto the housing of the drive's platter. I mistakenly replaced the drive, thinking it was the drive's fault, then discovered the slight bend.

The second thing is that I inadvertently discovered a new way of getting a recalcitrant screen to work. For those of you who have been following this thread since before Leopard came out, you know that a lot of us had a lot of problems with "black screens". That is, when booting, you'd get the grey screen and Apple logo, then the spinning gear, and then just when the desktop is supposed to appear the display would go black. The machine would 'think' the display is working - it would be fully booted up - but without visual feedback it would be impossible to use and impossible to fix the problem in situ.

Well that problem is a lot rarer since Leopard came out, but it still happens occasionally. I was sitting in a cafe today ready to get some work done on my beloved MBP (fitting the screen, for those of us keen on the higher res, definitely ups the MBP-love), attempted to boot, and got the dreaded black screen. This is the first time this has happened to me *after* successfully getting a screen to work (in several months, that is). So it can happen, and when it does, it sure is annoying.

First things first. If it happens to you, don't panic! Help is at hand.

A word of warning here. It has been my experience, and the experience of others, that a PRAM reset (option-Apple-P-R together at power-on) makes things WORSE. I would advise against a PRAM reset unless you've exhausted every other avenue of rescue.

The usual tactic with the dreaded "black screen" is to hook to an external monitor, boot on that, and use "Detect Displays" under "System Preferences > Display". If that doesn't work, and you don't want to start messing around with display overrides files (and who does), the next step is to use the sleep trick. Unfortunately that means opening up the MBP case. In fact, both of these solutions are less than satisfactory because *both* require using an external monitor, and the second one requires opening up the machine as well. And messing around with display overrides files is not satisfactory either, because - well, because you're messing around with system files.

So here's an alternative method that DOESN'T require changing any system files, DOESN'T require an external monitor, and DOESN'T require opening up your machine.

What it does require is having an alternative "back up" Leopard installation on a firewire disk. I have one of these anyways, installed on a little 2.5" drive that I carry with me. I use it for system troubleshooting and for defragmenting my main (internal) system disk with iDefrag. It's also handy to have in case my main system disk fails. Since I also backup my data files onto that disk, I know I can be up and running again in minutes by just booting off the external Firewire drive in case anything nasty happens to my internal drive.

That back-up OS was installed with the new high-res screen, and works great with it. I already knew that. What I discovered is that after getting the "black screen" problem, I simply booted off the external Firewire disk (which worked as normal), shutdown, and restarted on the internal disk. Hey presto, everything works again!

I have no idea why this works. It may not work for anyone else, or for me again, but it's certainly worth a try. It actually fixed my black screen problem which the "sleep" method WASN'T fixing. That's why I tried it. I had removed the keyboard, unplugged the internal display, booted on the external, put the machine to sleep, plugged in the internal, brought it out of sleep, and.. nothing. Still had the black screen. Multiple and frustrated reboots later I still had the problem. I then decided to boot up from the external Firewire disk to get the correct settings for the overrides file (I was about to start messing with them) and discovered that the display was simply just working again from my internal system disk when I booted off that again.

Another piece of advice - if you use an external screen like me as an extended Desktop, and get the black screen problem, you'll find that when you boot you can ONLY see the extended desktop which makes doing anything impossible. Simply use Command + F1 to toggle to mirror mode, and you're back in business.
 
Cure the "back screen" problem using external Firewire boot disk

SUMMARY for those not wanting to wade-through my overly-long previous post.

If you get the dreaded "black screen" problem, instead of opening up the case to try the sleep method (which may or may not work), and to avoid the need of having an external monitor around, simply try booting from a backup install of Leopard on a 2.5" external Firewire disk (previously installed when the high-res screen was working). It's a good idea to have a back-up of your OS (or a basic slimmed-down version) on a Firewire disk anyway, for troubleshooting purposes, and in case your main disk fails. And, for all you high-res lovers, in case you ever get the black screen.

Simply booting off the external, then booting again off the internal, solved the problem for me.
 
Other thoughts...

This LG display rocks. I'm not sure if it was because my other display was on the way out, but this display is much brighter. And this smaller text is much easier on my eyes because it's so much crisper. Too bad Apple can't offer this as an option on any MBP.

I agree - too bad. Then again, now we have something rather exclusive - not just any 15" MBP, but one with a high-res WUXGA screen! By the way, I doubt that Apple will ever introduce this as an option. Let's hope high-res LED screens will come out at some point, and that we'll be able to do the mod with them, too, because the non-LED screens are going to become obsolete.

Special thinks to noetus for summarizing all this info. It was a big help! Having this much real estate makes it much easier to stay in MacOS and just use VMWare to get at my bootcamp partition.

VMware Fusion is a wonderful thing. But I would beware of running your bootcamp partition mainly as a VM. There are forum postings about this over at VMware. The bootcamp option is intended mainly for occasional use in Fusion. If the main use of Windows is going to be in Fusion, better to create a dedicated VM. You could have compatibility problems, and even various forms of corruption, otherwise.
 
I joined the WUXGA MBP group yesterday.

The screen took an eternity arriving from the US (USPS to the UK), and I was away last week when it did. Finally got around to installing it yesterday.

MBP was the 2.33 C2D 15.4", screen was the LP154WU1 bought from lumenlab (noetus, thanks for the heads up on that on your previous post), OS was leopard. Waiting for Vista to arrive, and will let you know how I get on with that.

The machine had recently gone in for repair, and i'd wiped it before handing it in. Therefore I did a fresh install of Leopard when I got the machine back, and awaited the LCD (essentially the machine was unused between the fresh OS install and changing the screen).

Followed both dismantling guides. Had the following issues:

1) Front of top cover didn't want to come off. Took alot of rocking back and forth, and then eventually had to pull pretty hard (thought I was going to snap something) to get it off.

2) The inverter, left fan cables pull up, not obvious from the guide or clip. At first I thought they slid out. The isight (the ones closest to the screen) or atleast I assume thats what it is, slides out.

3) My airport card had three wires, not two as the guide suggest. They were colour coded and the airport card had the connectors labelled with the colours of the cables. No big deal, just thought it may ease the worries of others, that despite the guide being wrong here, everything else still worked fine.

4) The back of the screen bezel was extremely hard to get of. Luckily I had some soft plastic spudgers things I use to open other devices, which I slid between the two parts of the bezel to prize it open.

5) My screen had 6 screws along the bottom, not seven as suggested here http://www.screentekinc.com/lcd-removal-instructions_en,macbookpro,diagram1.shtml

6) The screen is glued to the bezel quite firmly. Takes some effort to prize it away. Because of point 5 above, I kept worrying I'd missed a screw and thats why the screen wouldn't come away at the bottom. After checking many times, I finally plucked up the courage to give it a good pull and it came away. (NOTE: My screen had recently been replaced under warranty, so it may have had fresh glue applied then, resulting in it being stuck much more firmly then on an older machine).

7) The glue which holds the screen to the bezel isn't as effective anymore. As a result the new screen doesn't sit as flush as the old one in some places. Could also be that the front bezel has slightly bent. Only slightly noticeable, if it bothers me I may open it up to correct this, but right now I'm of the opnion I noticed it purely because of the work i'd just done on the machine and probably won't after a while.

8) On boot up the screen stayed black. Reseated cables, used external monitor (cmd + F1 for mirror mode is helpfull with the external monitor, otherwise you get the extended desktop on the external monitor and can't do much), eventually got the initial grey screen, then black screen.

Detect displays didn't help. So tried the sleep method. Re-attached old screen, booted into leopard, put machine to sleep, attached new screen, woke machine from sleep mode, everything worked :).

Hope this helps those doing this in the future.

My thanks to everyone who has paved the way for me. Thanks again to Noetus for your recap post which pointed me to an available screen and put everything in one place so I didn't have to search frantically through the thread when it didn't work at first.

I'll come back and update you on how the mod works with leopard.

Thanks
 
Powerbook G4 17" WUXGA Success!

Powerbook G4 17" WUXGA Success!
Ok, fellas!!! I finally had some time to work on this laptop. It was actually pretty easy and not as difficult as some stated (if done right). Disassembly is pretty straight forward, you need very small screw drivers or you will strip them, as alloy are very soft.

here's a few tips for separating the lcd and back cover.

Now comes the LCD display. If you all are complaining about all the glue and trying to separating the LCD cover, STOP NOW, you are doing it wrong, again DO NOT try to separate the clips that are glued down to the back cover. What you need to do is using two VERY small flat head screw drivers and start at the lower corner, with one crew driver slowly insert into the seam, look for small shiny clips and with the other screw driver, poke at the edge of the clip, it will pops out of it's groove. Apple is quite cleaver in designing these clips to hold down the LCD back cover. DO NOT PRY THE TOP OF THE LCD, because the retainer clips are hook like, no way to pry loose without damaging it. The way these lcd are assembled, they slide the lcd front side into the retainer clips hooks on to the top of the back cover and snap down. so work your way from one side of the lcd, pop the clips out of the socket, the go down and back to the other side, once you get the botom and the sides the top will slide off.

here are some pictures:
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look at the camera focus at the top of the picture, see the hooks ? the lcd will slide off and you don't even need to pry at these.
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the side clips, they just snap in to the slots. so pop those off one by one
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picture of the lcd already out, the front bezel and back cover, it's important to not pry and damage the retainer clips on the back cover, it keeps a tight seal on your lcd back lid, if pry improperly there will be huge gaps in the end.
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now, comes the LCD, most people are skeptical about using Dell's LCD because they have the brackets. FEAR LESS, they are so abundant, why not use it. the one i'm using is a Sharp wuxga panel.
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now, to clearify some misinformation, these brackets are spot-welded on, not riveted. the lower bracket holds the inverter, unscrew on one end and the inverter slides off. there are about three-four small spot-weld points about 2mm in size that hold down each bracket. look for a burnt orange spots. first, you need to unscrew the frame from the lcd, so you wont damage it. then use a dremel tool with a metal filing tip and aim it in the center of the spot-weld points give it few tap and the brackets come off easily. took me less than two minutes to unmount the two brackets.
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gone brackets gone:
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some more pics, after all done with Linux for now, I'll load Leopard on there soon, when i get a chance to buy one:
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The rundown...

12:20 Look outside, package on doorstep.. Can't the fedex guy be troubled to ring the bell?
12:25 Opened box... Screen looks perfect! Thank you nameless EBay company...
12:35 Finish Lunch
12:40 Open up this page, ifixit and screentek in three windows on the desktop to guide me through this
12:40 start ifixit disassembly
12:48 step 6/8 "disconnect the two antenna cables..." I have three! confidence shrinks...
I wish they noted if those iSight, inverter and fan cables pulled out or up...
12:59 the display is off the MBP. Moving to screentek disassembly

1:07: Man, unhinging that bezel is a bitch! I actually used a tiny flat screwdriver right next to the hole for the shell screws. There's no way mere mortal hands can push that bezel off. Screentek lies!
1:26 Screen is completely out. Man, that glue holding the screen to the frame is a bigger bitch!
1:39 Booting up the old screen with the laptop in pieces... and it works!
1:40 Put the screen to sleep and started switching... Hit the trackpad and woke the machine up! Reboot and try again. Strike 1.
145: Put the new screen in, woke it up, and it's almost black... I can see however the faintness of my background. I think it's kind of working but too dark to read. Powered it off with the cable and try again. Strike 2.
1:50: Third try: It works! Two words "Suh Weet!!!" And for those of you (Steve J) who don't think the screen is readable at this resolution, you've got another thing coming. Took a picture and shut down normally. Time to put this baby back together.

2:40 after a couple of miscues - "wait - those wires needed to be threaded through those holes" and "how did they get out of there?" The screen is back assembled. That was frustrating. Back to iFixit

3:00 MBP, back together and on.

It was worth the effort...

I hope the next rev of these 15" MBPs comes with a high res screen...


what screen did you get and from who? from bliss?did you get a 'compatible one' i'm about the pull the trigger and want to know. thanks.
 
Here's the one I picked up (noted in a previous post). the vendor was laptopservicecenter/smart-micro. They had an exact match with the TLB1 suffix. I looked for the TLB1 version as I think another post referenced that exact model.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=150220295033

$255 + shipping

LP154WU1 TLB1

I think every experience on ebay might be different - but this screen was new and in perfect condition.

I did a quick search on ebay - and it looks like they're selling the same model : http://cgi.ebay.com/A-NEW-LP154WU1-...ZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

YMMV!
 
I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me a bit about the quality of the screen. I've noticed on some high res screens that a kind of graining of the image on high res screens but not on lower res ones. Apparently this has a bit to do with the brand of the screen.

Also, I'm on a 2.4 C2D (the one before the current model). I was wonderin gif there is a glossy option?

Cheers!
 
My Vista CD arrived the other day and I installed it on the MBP yesterday.

As others have reported I came accross the funky colour issue. Messed around with the drivers but eventually had to install powerstrip to get it working properly.

The default refresh rate was 60.100 Hz which it didn't like. Altering it to 60.050 (infact any variation of X.050 seems to work) seems to have largely resolved things. On shutdown I can still see some flickering which suggests some more tweaking is required, but I dont notice any flickering once running.

My brother has a T61p with the same screen, so will install powerstrip on that and see what its settings show up as. May also try his monitor driver, but I did download the IBM drivers from the website and they didn't fix the issue.

I'll update you once I've had a play with the T61p.
 
I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me a bit about the quality of the screen. I've noticed on some high res screens that a kind of graining of the image on high res screens but not on lower res ones. Apparently this has a bit to do with the brand of the screen.

Also, I'm on a 2.4 C2D (the one before the current model). I was wonderin gif there is a glossy option?

Cheers!

That's an LED screen. This upgrade doesn't work with LED.
 
I had a chance to play with my brothers T61p, but haven't made much progress.

His drivers are the same as the IBM ones I downloaded and tried. He has an nvidia card, but the default timings/refresh rate are the same as the default ones on the MBP (before being altered by powerstrip).

For some reason in Vista a slight offset of 0.05 Hz is required from the default refresh rate picked up. Maybe its something to do with settings added for the 17" WUXGA screen on the new MBP's. But I would imagine it should then affect me in Leopard aswell, plus I would expect it to identify this is a different screen. Has anyone tried different ATI drivers then the Bootcamp ones?

Its not a major issue, powerstrip largely works fine. It doesn't kick in until you've logged in, but the login screen is still perfectly legible (just the background looks like a wierd 70's LSD induced visions :)) so its not a major problem. Sometimes when the MBP comes out of sleep/hibernate powerstrip doesn't do its thing, just opening the powerstrip display settings usually fixes this, but worst case you need to toggle the refresh rate up 0.05Hz and then back again.

I'll try some other ATI drivers and anything else that pops into my mind, and will keep you updated.
 
I have a more annoying issue with the MBP at the moment. There appears to be a high pitched noise coming from the left speaker area. Difficult to describe, reminds me of high pitched morse code :)

I usually have my speakers muted and can still hear it then. Have noticed when I unmute the noise dissapears for ~10 seconds, but then comes back again. Going from unmuted to muted has no effect though.

I suspect it may be interference from a loose antenna cable on the airport card, as these had to be pulled and reseated during the screen replacement procedure. And they are in that vicinity, will have to open the machine up and have a play around.

Its not really noticeable in most places I use the machine, but it can get annoying when I use it at night in the bedroom.
 
Resolution problems...

My LP154WU1 A1 K6 has a problem,

I haven't noticed until now because I have had no reason to run the screen at a lower resolution but it won't display anything on:
640x480
800x600
1024x768
1280x1024

It works when they are stretched, it works when on all the other resolutions in between but not on those 4 (most common) resolutions.

This is my first Mac so I'm a bit short on ideas, anyone?
 
You have a frequency timing issue. i had this same issue. Leopard solved it for me, though.

I have a more annoying issue with the MBP at the moment. There appears to be a high pitched noise coming from the left speaker area. Difficult to describe, reminds me of high pitched morse code :)

I usually have my speakers muted and can still hear it then. Have noticed when I unmute the noise dissapears for ~10 seconds, but then comes back again. Going from unmuted to muted has no effect though.

I suspect it may be interference from a loose antenna cable on the airport card, as these had to be pulled and reseated during the screen replacement procedure. And they are in that vicinity, will have to open the machine up and have a play around.

Its not really noticeable in most places I use the machine, but it can get annoying when I use it at night in the bedroom.
 
You have a frequency timing issue. i had this same issue. Leopard solved it for me, though.

I'm largely using Vista at the moment for work. I haven't checked it in Leopard, but will do.

Have you tried it in vista, or better still get the issue resolved in Vista. At the moment I use powerstrip to change the refresh rate by 0.050 Hz to get rid of the fuzzy screen issue.

If anyone has any working settings in Vista they would be greatly appreciated.
 
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