Its funny to see so many of us really only stay because of iOS and the Eco System. lol
Isn't it frankly embarrassing that Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Google are all ahead in camera tech?There's nothing in an Android phone that I pine for.
Which breakthroughs of late are you referring to?
(not disagreeing, just asking which ones you are talking about)
How are they ahead in camera tech?Isn't it frankly embarrassing that Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Google are all ahead in camera tech?
Well yes, that’s exactly why I stay; I like the iPhones, iOS and the ecosystem.Its funny to see so many of us really only stay because of iOS and the Eco System. lol
Its funny to see so many of us really only stay because of iOS and the Eco System. lol
There is, frankly, nothing embarrassing about the capability of the camera of my iPhone XS. Whatsoever.Isn't it frankly embarrassing that Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Google are all ahead in camera tech?
In case you hadn't noticed, it was in response to a post saying 'there is nothing in Android phones i pine for'There is, frankly, nothing embarrassing about the capability of the camera of my iPhone XS. Whatsoever.
You could hone in on any one specific aspect of a phone and say that, subjectively, another phone does that one aspect slightly better. But that’s not how I make my buying decisions. It’s the whole package that matters to me and the iPhone delivers that. There might be aspects of other phones that I’d like to have, but if the full package isn’t compelling, it’s not enough.
And since 2013, the iPhone has been the overall winner for me.
Not really. Most current reviews seem to indicate that iPhone is still most well rounded and reliable.Isn't it frankly embarrassing that Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Google are all ahead in camera tech?
Bet you don'tNo, I tried the Galaxy S9+ last year from launch and then switched to the XS Max at launch. It was a fantastic phone, and I really appreciated the control Android and Samsung gave me. But there were a lot of annoyances that got me to go back to iPhone:
The Galaxy S10 looks beautiful, but I've already had my recent experience with Samsung and Android, and I'm done chasing new technology. At this point, I'm doing all the same things on my phones - basic communication, web browsing, social media, listening to music, etc. Is it really going to matter if I have a tiny bit less bezel at this point? No.
- Battery life: Although the S9+ got amazing battery life according to battery tests, I had to limit features to try to get the battery life I wanted, and even then, it still was less than desired. I consistently go to bed with 50-70% left on my XS Max.
- Software updates: Yeah, Samsung has gotten better about this, but I was months behind in security updates with an unlocked device. Some carriers/models would be getting the August update, while I was still on the June update. I had this feeling bothering me that the longer I kept the phone, the more outdated it would get. I was concerned about slow updates, not getting updates at all, phone slowing down, having basically the same phone in 2-3 years as I bought on day 1 when it comes to software, etc.
- Privacy concerns: It's known that Android is much less private than iOS. It's owned by Google, who is a company that makes profit on data. Facebook set out to get more data specifically from Android phones. Google tracks your location even when you turn location tracking off. Every time I'd leave to go somewhere, Google Maps would send me a notification about the location I arrived at. It really bothered me.
- Less polish: The phone just felt less polished than iOS. Don't get me wrong, it was pretty stable and smooth, but still just less than iOS.
- I missed Apple's ecosystem: AirDrop, iMessage, Find My Friends, Continuity... it all sucked not having these, especially when my iPad Pro is my main computing device the majority of the time.
I even kinda regret buying the XS Max so soon when my iPhone 7+ could've sustained me fine to this point and probably a few more years. It seemed so important to get rid of bezels, get a new form factor, spec upgrades, etc., and I do appreciate them a lot now, but it's not as important to me anymore. I'm going to use this XS Max for 3 years bare minimum, but I'm aiming for 4-5. By then, there will be a lot of accumulated updates that will be super nice to upgrade to.
One thing I can’t get past is how the Galaxy 10+ physically feels less premium than my Xs Max, maybe it’s due to Samsung using aluminum and Apple stainless steel?
Isn't it frankly embarrassing that Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Google are all ahead in camera tech?
The one who should be embarrassed is Samsung. I mean a small company like Xiaomi can out-innovate a chaebol conglomerate Samsung? And yes, as a company and resources, Samsung is the big elephant here, even eclipsing Apple. Samsung is so “innovative” that they are having a Chinese ODM to design and produce phones and slap Samsung label on them (starting with the Galaxy A6s). What a joke.Isn't it frankly embarrassing that Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Google are all ahead in camera tech?
But that’s the USP right? If iPhones run Android, then what’s the point?Its funny to see so many of us really only stay because of iOS and the Eco System. lol
Well I did think about it long and hard and it’s difficilt seeing other manufacturers innovate and Apple not really doing anything. The S10 is an amazing phone. I pre-ordered one and was ready to switch but I’ve decided not to as I know I’d only end up switching back. I had my sim in an S7 yesterday and lasted w few hours before I put it back in my Xs max.
It’s so annoying Apple are charging exorbitant prices and you get so little compared to other phones. However I don’t think switching is the answer. I’m also just a bit too lazy to start a fresh set up. I have a workflow with my iOS devices and can’t be bothered switching it all.
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The price of the S series hasn’t increased in the UK for the past 3 years. However despite the great hardware on the S10 + and Apple’s shortcomings I ended up cancelling my preorder today. I don’t think I can leave the ecosystem because I know I’d want to come back once the novelty of the S10 + wore off. I had my sim in a borrowed S7 yesterday and I was already bored of it after a few hours so I know I wouldn’t have lasted long with the S10+. I think the android ship might have sailed for me. This is exactly how I felt about the S7 edge, note 8 and S9 + after a few weeks. They went in a drawer and I carried on using my iPhone.
But apple hardware is not future proof. Xr/ Xs max 3/4gb ram and the miniscule 64gb storage will be dead in water in 2 years. So what's the point of long update support when the phone is as good as dead weight in 2 years+ time?
I would be happy with just split screen apps.This; to be honest the s10 felt cheap comparatively speaking to my Xs Max. I'm just as much into aesthics as I am the software on a phone. The Xs Max is the phone for me.
HOWEVER, it's high tide for basic features like AOD, SPLIT SCREEN, and PIP. I have my hopes high for iOS 13. After all, I never thought tap to wake, or third party keyboards would come to iPhone either.
Here's to hope!!!
There were some things I wasn’t sure about like the camera and also relying on the ultrasonic FPS. As I was trying to set up the S7 I realised I just didn’t have the energy for it. I could recognise the same signs like when I had other Samsung phones in the past alongside my iPhone. The novelty of the new features would wear off and then I’d end up putting the phone in a drawer and not using it after a 2 weeks. So I didn’t want to go down the same route as I’d gone down for the last 3 years. I’m not really some who switches back and forth. The only reason I got into android in 2012 was because my iPhone 4 was stolen.Well color me surprised... I really thought you were all set to go with the s10.
I understand though... switching can be daunting. It's not like in the days of iPhone 3G/3GS/4/4S and Galaxy S3,S4,S5.
Things are really mature right now, and I get it... I've often said I'd like to switch back and forth, but I just don't have that kinda time or energy or resources for that matter. However, I love technology so I watch on with baited breath like most here.
Oh well, we have June and September to look forward to. Welcome back... Even though you never left, lol!!!
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I have to disagree, as Apple is one of the few if not the only company that optimizes it's software to run on not just the latest, but also phones from the past.
Android manufactures hardly ever mention anything about their past devices. I've never felt abandoned having iPhone. A feeling that isn't often duplicated with Android.
This I completely agree with. Samsung have been caught with their pants down! But Samsung is not a one-trick-pony and their business model is different by the way of existing in all things electronic..The one who should be embarrassed is Samsung. I mean a small company like Xiaomi can out-innovate a chaebol conglomerate Samsung?
Isn't it frankly embarrassing that Xiaomi, Huawei, Samsung, Google are all ahead in camera tech?
Hmm, as an iPhone user primarily, I don't feel any pain at all. The "innovations" you see on other OEMs are mere skin deep. Sure, they look great on demo and paper, but in the end, most of them relies on the silicon from Qualcomm/Mediatek, and the OS support relies on Google. To date, Google stock camera app don't even support dual camera setup, so all those fancy multiple camera tricks rely on the OEMs themselves.
And it's funny how many people think of Samsung as innovative. Seriously, what's so innovative about the S10?
- Punch hole camera? That's just a notch moved to the side, and Huawei did it before Samsung.
- Wide angle camera? LG, Huawei, all did it already
- In-display fingerprint? Sure, Samsung uses ultrasonic version, but the concept is not new and the Chinese OEMs like Vivo already put the idea in their phones last year.
- and all those for what, $900? And what, max of 3 year software support? What's the point of such "great hardware" if the software is abandoned by year 2 or three at $900?
If people want to talk pressure for Apple, look at the Mi 9. SD855, 6GB RAM, triple camera with wide angle and telephoto, all for ~$500. Makes Samsung's "innovations" like gimmicks just to gauge their prices.
I don’t see how the S10 can be called a half baked product. Nevertheless I decided to stay with Apple once again because of the ecosystem.
This I completely agree with. Samsung have been caught with their pants down! But Samsung is not a one-trick-pony and their business model is different by the way of existing in all things electronic..
For Apple, iphone is everything and they have a need to lead!