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iPhone XS Max Anyone starting to feel the pain??

When I upgraded to my XR, I sold a friend of mine my 8+. She was still using a 5C I sold her (it was my mom's), I don't know, 6 years ago?!?

My sister still uses, and is very happy with, her 6 or 6S+ (can't remember which). It gives her no trouble whatsoever.

I just have a problem in that I tend to like the newest gadgets out there. Now, I keep telling myself I'm gonna stick with my XR another year because I really like it and need to try holding off on yearly upgrades, but if they have lots of new goodies on the phones this fall, I won't make it.
 
Being in my mid 30s (34), technology advances aren’t a priority and a need as they were 10 years ago. I still use my 4.5 year old iPad Air 2 which still does its job efficiently, my 2010 MacBook Pro which sadly needs to be replaced ASAP and 2 Apple TVs (4 and a 4K) that connect each other devices nicely together for the Apple / iOS eco system.

My iPhone XS is my favorite iPhone from Apple because it doesn’t have any problem unlike every iPhone that I have owned (6s with the constant shutting down after 20%, 5s with its terrible battery life). At the end of the day, it does everything that I need it to be, has all day battery and takes awesome photos. The best about the Xs is that I know 5 years down the road, Apple will still give the phone updates and the hardware still (hopedully) be working just as good as when I first got it.
 
I would question what is soo innovative about Samsung? They just grab whatever latest and unpolished parts are available on the market and slap a phone together without even giving it much thought on how would people use it or if it is even needed.

All this hype about S10 and how Samsungs screens are great for instance, yet they cant seem to be able to even out top and bottom bezels on their $1000+ flagship to make them symmetrical.

The only thing that I would like on my iPhone is a true wide angle camera. That is something I wish I had on many occasions and could use it. Everything else they got on S10 are un-needed, un-appealing gimmicks in my opinion. Unless Apple messes up big time, I do not really even care what other are doing.
 
mlody said:
I would question what is soo innovative about Samsung? They just grab whatever latest and unpolished parts are available on the market and slap a phone together without even giving it much thought on how would people use it or if it is even needed.

All this hype about S10 and how Samsungs screens are great for instance, yet they cant seem to be able to even out top and bottom bezels on their $1000+ flagship to make them symmetrical.

The only thing that I would like on my iPhone is a true wide angle camera. That is something I wish I had on many occasions and could use it. Everything else they got on S10 are un-needed, un-appealing gimmicks in my opinion. Unless Apple messes up big time, I do not really even care what other are doing.
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Samsung tries out all sorts of crazy technologies on customers. They see a technology and say "how can we make a phone do this?". Apple, on the other hand, appears to try things in labs but don't use a technology as an excuse to have a feature.

For example: NFC becomes mainstream
Samsung: "we should put this radio in our phone"
Apple: "We want to enable users to send money to other nearby users. We can use NFC to do that"

Samsung tests technologies. Apple leverages technologies to create products.
 
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Easiest way is to have iOS and android. I have Note 9 for work and XS Max for personal phone. So I use both ecosystems.
 
LS3 POWER said:
At what point do we as Apple Consumers stop allowing Apple Eco System which is what they depend on to keep us buying the devices that are falling more and more behind?
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when you decide to look further. You can live with the apple ecosystem if you think it is fine, or you can start doing things you do with apple on a way that arent binded only with apple. using apple devices doesnt mean that you are forced to use their ecosystem.

although i have mbp, ipp, atv and apple watch, im not binded to apple ecosystem at all. (well, my apple watch is )
 
mlody said:
I would question what is soo innovative about Samsung? They just grab whatever latest and unpolished parts are available on the market and slap a phone together without even giving it much thought on how would people use it or if it is even needed.

All this hype about S10 and how Samsungs screens are great for instance, yet they cant seem to be able to even out top and bottom bezels on their $1000+ flagship to make them symmetrical.

The only thing that I would like on my iPhone is a true wide angle camera. That is something I wish I had on many occasions and could use it. Everything else they got on S10 are un-needed, un-appealing gimmicks in my opinion. Unless Apple messes up big time, I do not really even care what other are doing.
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Will reverse wireless charging be a gimmick on the next iPhone too?

Why is an in display FPS a gimmick?
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AustinIllini said:
Samsung tries out all sorts of crazy technologies on customers. They see a technology and say "how can we make a phone do this?". Apple, on the other hand, appears to try things in labs but don't use a technology as an excuse to have a feature.

For example: NFC becomes mainstream
Samsung: "we should put this radio in our phone"
Apple: "We want to enable users to send money to other nearby users. We can use NFC to do that"

Samsung tests technologies. Apple leverages technologies to create products.
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Wasn’t NFC already used for google wallet before Apple Pay launched?

Also NFC was used in Samsung phones and other android phones to transfer data between phones. It wasn’t just there for the sake of it.
 
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not to mention what else you can do with nfc in android that you cant do, even nowadays, with ios. for example a simple task - i can read my travel card with an android phone and check the time or money left on the card. with iphone, walk to the closest terminal to check the card details.
 
now i see it said:
It's a tick tick cycle. Apple unveils something new which makes Samsung phones seem old, then 6 months later Samsung unveils something new which makes iPhones look old. Repeat year after year.
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I think your post is right in some respects, but I’m trying to think of a time in recent history when Apple introduced a phone that made Samsung’s flagship “seem old”. What immediately comes to mind here is the Galaxy Fold. Now that is revolutionary. I suppose time will tell if that’s the next greatest thing, but I have a feeling that folding displays are here to stay.

But I’ll say this also; I try not to get myself entangled into the notion that the phone with the latest gadgets or features is the better phone by default. We all know that ‘better’ is relative, of course sometimes there has been tech updates that do indeed make some phones truly more capable. If we’re keeping score, I think Samsung has consistently innovated more than Apple. I’m not saying Samsung phones are better. I own both and like them both. Each does its own things well. For the most part I think most of it comes down to the operating system preference, at least for me.
 
Shanghaichica said:
Wasn’t NFC already used for google wallet before Apple Pay launched?

Also NFC was used in Samsung phones and other android phones to transfer data between phones. It wasn’t just there for the sake of it.
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You're missing the point. Apple doesn't add technology to a device until they have a use case which requires it. They didn't just add NFC to have NFC like Samsung did.
 
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AustinIllini said:
You're missing the point. Apple doesn't add technology to a device until they have a use case which requires it. They didn't just add NFC to have NFC like Samsung did.
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Samsung Pay :). Tap phones to pair/transfer use nfc way before apple. 3rd party automation with nfc - tap and room tasks.

I would say Samsung implemented more useful functionality with nfc more than apple.
 
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mlody said:
I would question what is soo innovative about Samsung? They just grab whatever latest and unpolished parts are available on the market and slap a phone together without even giving it much thought on how would people use it or if it is even needed.

All this hype about S10 and how Samsungs screens are great for instance, yet they cant seem to be able to even out top and bottom bezels on their $1000+ flagship to make them symmetrical.

The only thing that I would like on my iPhone is a true wide angle camera. That is something I wish I had on many occasions and could use it. Everything else they got on S10 are un-needed, un-appealing gimmicks in my opinion. Unless Apple messes up big time, I do not really even care what other are doing.
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This is the classic example why Apple can slow down big times being innovative with the iPhone, having an OS that's almost 5 years nearly the same but on the other hand can push up their iPhone prices as much and high as they want...Their loyal customers are fine with this price strategy, cause iOS and the Apple ecosystem

Apple can be super lazy perfectly fine, their loyal customers don't really care.
And Apple is fully aware of this.

Just like charging $45 for the iPhone Xr clear case, which costs about a dollar to make.
Apple can easily do this, they know their customer base very well.

(typing from my iPhone XS, which is 90% identical to the iPhone X and I own a bunch of other Apple devices...but I am almost done with Apple Inc.)
 
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mib1800 said:
Samsung Pay :). Tap phones to pair/transfer use nfc way before apple. 3rd party automation with nfc - tap and room tasks.

I would say Samsung implemented more useful functionality with nfc more than apple.
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Tap to transfer is a perfect example. I can share through multiple apps or even iMessage (which Samsungs don't have). Why would I ever use tap to transfer? It's just not a good experience. It's a technology looking for a product.

"Praise Samsung for technology literally no one uses!"
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Geert76 said:
(typing from my iPhone XS, which is 90% identical to the iPhone X and I own a bunch of other Apple devices...but I am almost done with Apple Inc.)
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You could have just written "Please ignore everything I'm saying". Also, the current Android design, Material design, was introduced on Android Lollipop, which was introduced in 2014. Now, Samsung phones didn't use it until 2015 because their software update strategy is trash, but it's also a 5 year old paradigm. And don't worry, Samsung's unnecessary OneUI trashes Android less than previous versions.

Full disclosure: It's not my daily driver, but I love the Pixel 3. Amazing phone with Amazing camera. It makes me wonder what would happen if Samsung would have just let Google do what it's good at, writing software, while it focused on the thing it does well: hardware.
 
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Scream And Fly said:
What immediately comes to mind here is the Galaxy Fold. Now that is revolutionary. I suppose time will tell if that’s the next greatest thing, but I have a feeling that folding displays are here to stay.
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This..
Apple wants to get big time into streaming services. What a perfect complimentary device would a folding iphone be!
And yet you'll find people pretending in this forum that folding phones are not the next thing. Only because, Apple is way behind in executing the patents!!
 
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LIVEFRMNYC said:
Bad analogy. With 3D TV, there was next to no content to make it worth it to consumers. Folding displays has a legitimate use.
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May have a legitimate use, however I believe it will never be more than a nitch segment.

Three concerns come to immediate mind.

First, scratching will be a often topic complained about. Besides having the normal scratching on the exposed folded half screen, the folded screen will scratch more often as a single particle of sand or other debris will damage both sides of closed screen.

In order to fold, the screen will of necessity need to be flexible. Hard glass screens are not flexible. If the joint is only flexible than the transition across it will be noticeable. Curious to see case solutions for foldable phones. No case, more phones damaged. Let’s see drop tests on foldable phones.

Second, by necessity the electrical display connections will cross the seam. Have yet to see a conductive material that does not fail sooner when it is repeatedly folded. Failure rates both in initial manufacturing and over warranty will be higher, period. Ergo double the price, 2k. People complaining about 1k phones, it won’t be less when price doubles. Ergo nitch market at best.

Third, guess what happens when you fold phone in half? Thickness doubles! Have failed to see demand for fatter phones other than the few looking for battery increase.

While considering thickness, consider that the multiple cameras we all demand for photo performance will need to fit in the back side half of foldable phone. You think camera bump is big and ugly now, just wait to see high performance lense set sticking out of foldable phone.

Foldable phone = <durability, >cost, <features currently seen as acceptable.
 
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Shanghaichica said:
Will reverse wireless charging be a gimmick on the next iPhone too?

Why is an in display FPS a gimmick?
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With iPhone’s traditionally small battery capacity, the reverse charging would be a gimmick on an iPhone.

Just becuse Samsung was able to move fingerprint sensor from the back of their phones to front that does not make the tech all of sudden innvention worthy. They are trying to save the face cause they still cant make FaceID robust and secure enough.

Its 2019 and their security revolves around the same process from years ago - finger print scanning? Really, thats innovation? I care less where you put the finger - back or front. It is the same crap process, with the same limitations.

In 2019 i do not want to scan my finger - thats not advancement or progress, but damage control cause they are unable to crate a compelling and secure tech that Appele did. The FaceID is the future tech that will expenad to other areas.
 
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Its 2019 and their security revolves around the same process from years ago - finger print scanning? Really, thats innovation? I care less where you put the finger - back or front. It is the same crap process, with the same limitations.
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Same limitations? Like what?
 
Shanghaichica said:
Yet the NFC in Samsung phones was compatible with google wallet and for data transfer between phones so it did have a use...
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Yes, not to mention Samsung TecTiles, which are useful for so many different things.
People throw one on a wall and it changes their whole settings in a pinch? amazing.
 
Hmm, I agree somewhat, with the OP. However, for me, I stopped using iMessage and FaceTime about a year ago.

Why?

Mainly so I could switch devices on the fly, without any hindrance on communication. Thus far it has worked well. Alas, I have been using my S9+, since September 2018, and at the same time keeping my iPhone charged and updated.

But, in the last 48 hours or so, I have moved my main SIM back to my iPhone. Along with using my Apple Watch S4, for the first time since September. Considering I have Apple Care and such on all my iOS devices, I am beginning to feel having them sitting in a drawer is 'losing' money and use.

There are a few things on my S9+, that I would love on iOS. Namely, AOD (Always On Display), and even the Edge screen for apps. Lastly, I have mentioned this time and time again. The option to place MY icons on MY device, anywhere on MY Apple iPhone screen. Ugh, is this so difficult? Really...?

Anyway, I digress. Apple could learn from other manufactures and offer us, Apple product users, so more options and features.

So, there's that...
 
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Until Samsung can release timely OS updates and provide excellent after sales support, I would never consider them. So.... pretty much never.
 
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mib1800 said:
Samsung Pay :). Tap phones to pair/transfer use nfc way before apple. 3rd party automation with nfc - tap and room tasks.

I would say Samsung implemented more useful functionality with nfc more than apple.
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It’s all tit for tat really and to be fair to Apple Pay, it beat Samsung Pay in regards to banks taking it on in Western Europe at least. It’s all caught up now anyway so it’s a bit of a hollow competition.
 
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mlody said:
With iPhone’s traditionally small battery capacity, the reverse charging would be a gimmick on an iPhone.

Just becuse Samsung was able to move fingerprint sensor from the back of their phones to front that does not make the tech all of sudden innvention worthy. They are trying to save the face cause they still cant make FaceID robust and secure enough.

Its 2019 and their security revolves around the same process from years ago - finger print scanning? Really, thats innovation? I care less where you put the finger - back or front. It is the same crap process, with the same limitations.

In 2019 i do not want to scan my finger - thats not advancement or progress, but damage control cause they are unable to crate a compelling and secure tech that Appele did. The FaceID is the future tech that will expenad to other areas.
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They are choosing not to implement their own version of face ID for now. They have money and could buy the tech like Apple and Huwawei did.

I don't see it as gimmicky. It's not samsungs invention but it's not gimmicky.
 
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