Again you add emotions to pepper up your otherwise bland understanding. He is literally begging for "donations" because he is pushing his "sob story". Pretty sure grifter is the appropriate description. I do not care that people are giving him their money, but they should know they are acting foolishly and encouraging bad behavior. Reality is this developer made a lot of money from this business venture, he does not need the help, if he wants to prove me wrong I encourage him to publish his revenue numbers. You people should be helping people who actually need it.
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Apollo Now Offers Option to Decline Refund Ahead of June 30 Shutdown
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That and I got the Pixel Pals app.Apollo was probably my most heavily used app over the last 3+ years. I will be following this developer.
Horsesh*t. That bill is the same one Reddit uses to run a website.
They could have made a new contract, "the API costs $XXXX, or, you need to run our ads on your app and we get the revenue"… there's all kinds of strategies… they decided to just make Reddit worse for everyone and screw a developer who made their product better. Crazy and stupid.
Right or wrong has nothing to do with it. You want to be a jerk, be the whole jerk and own your decision and the fallout that may come with it, however unpopular it may be.
I can agree with you that reddit did nothing wrong by deciding that they didn’t want to support third party apps any longer, while also expressing my displeasure at how they have handled the entire debacle (from the short timeline to attempting to frame Christian Selig for something he never said, to even going so far as to restore the comments that I deleted weeks ago.
And if I have decided that I am so unhappy with their service that I want to quit (and take all of my postings with me), there is no reason why I shouldn’t be allowed to remove the content I have posted on Reddit over the past 6 years aside from the fact that reddit knows this will break a lot of conversation threads and therefore reduce the utility and the value of their website. And I don’t care. I made those posts, let me remove them once and for all, consequences be darned.
This is what you are defending - a company who doesn’t even have the courage to own their decision.
No I am genuinely making a good point and you do not like it. Sorry but personal insults will not defeat my words.
I’ve never used Apollo but hate this for you. Just downloaded it and got the wallpaper pack. Good luck and I’m sorry for all you’re dealing with.
The problem with society these days is that somehow being unpopular is bad, and speaking truth that opposes the majority opinion is equal to murder. Really sorry I upset you all tonight.
These are not mutually exclusive matters. I do make small donations here and there, both to local causes as well as random people requesting financial aid on Mastodon. Even if I were eligible for a refund, that few dollars is not going to break the bank for me, nor would I be able to do anything meaningful with it anyways.
I am not upset, but I find your responses are but another “opinion”, rather than some absolute “truth” that you think we are all somehow obliged to acknowledge.
And while we are at it…
I don’t know you, but I think another small donation just might be worth the grim satisfaction of infuriating you.
Even *IF* someone is showing 100% support for Reddit and Reddit's CEO, tell me how that person is "raged" when Apollo is shutting down, Reddit boycotts seem to have amounted to nothing, and the subreddits have mostly returned back to normal? Again, clearly the situation is not going in your favor so you're trying really hard to picture the other side losing, for what? I have no idea.
To be clear, I think the Reddit CEO is handling this situation poorly and his past actions on Reddit have been extremely questionable at best. The Reddit app itself I think is terrible and I would be fine with mobile web if it didn't constantly ask me to USE THE APP. But that doesn't mean Apollo should be handed everything it is asking for.
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I'm reading the emotion that you're conveying. If you don't want to come across as grumpy, write better.
If you completely ignore the difference between begging and offering an option, then sure, he's begging. I dunno, I kinda like when words keep their meaning though.
It's not, but I don't expect you to look it up because you're not arguing in good faith.
This is all 100% your opinion and not at all an objective fact. They're acting in a way you don't like and so you're throwing a fit and trying to make it seem like your seemingly intentional misreading of the situation is something that anyone should take seriously.
Sure he did. No one is disputing that he made a lot of money. That doesn't mean a full refund of all subscriptions won't still have a big financial impact on his operation. Publishing revenue numbers isn't going to change your mind because there's likely no number small enough to make you think that users declining their refund is a logical decision. You don't grasp that humans could possibly contribute towards something for purely personal, non-transactional reasons.
That is lovely I am really glad to hear that about you. Regardless every dollar donated to a wealthy developer through false pretenses, is one that could have been given elsewhere. Anyways I understand you do not care, that is okay.
Goodbye Apollo.
Goodbye Reddit.
Sorry for saying the same thing twice.
Goodbye Reddit.
Sorry for saying the same thing twice.
You don't have to put words in our mouths... You didn't upset me. I may have disagreed with what you said but I support your freedom to an opinion even if it is an opinion I believe to be misinformed and borderline tantrum throwing.
You're making a lot of false statements and accusations against members here and against the developer this article mentions. Most people would call this angry, frothing at the mouth, throwing a fit, trolling, etc.
This makes zero sense.
That's not how mobile ads work. Mobile ads in apps have a very particular stylesheet/design requirement and essentially has an SLA that it must absolutely be shown within spec. If an amateur developer didn't display the ads the way the advertisers were promised, advertisers will leave. You absolutely DO NOT want to leave it up to third party users to figure out the design for ads. And this is far different from web ads considering mobile ads tend to blend more with the UI which achieves a higher CTR. This is also one of the reasons why Twitter never allowed third party clients to show ads.
See the problem is a refund is simply money he never earned. He is telling a sob story about how terrible it is that he already spent the money he did not earn. This is the part where I do not see why anyone owes him anything. I think the problem I have is that he is leveraging an unfortunate event to convince people like you that it's definitely not his financial mismanagement to blame. You go ahead and keep supporting everybody who tugs at your heart strings though, that is ok, sorry I rained on your parade.
If by wealthy, you mean that Christian Selig makes more than I do as a teacher, then yeah, good for him. I don’t view it as false pretences though, in that he has made it pretty clear what I am getting myself into. It’s not that dissimilar from the Tweetbot incident and I am glad other developers are able to learn something from it on how to deal with the fallout when your app has to shutter.
Now to think if there is any other way I can ensure my comments get deleted permanently from Reddit and stay deleted.
Why does he need to have “earned it”? You are right in that nobody owes him a living, but you can’t seem to accept that it’s also up to the individual to decide whether they want to just let him keep the remainder of the unused subscription or not.
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This is simply amazing, every thread about this there are people who are spreading mis-information and attacking the developer. Like someone else mentioned I cannot believe anyone would be so hell bent on pushing mistruths and attacking the dev unless they were the Reddit CEO himself or trolls paid by him.
Apollo is one of the all time best iOS apps, the developer on his own routinely added new features the day Apple released them, features some of the largest corporations on Earth still haven’t added months/years later.
Oh and uh speaking of making personal attacks, the developer of Apollo is a MacRumors member and has posted in this thread. 👀
Apollo is one of the all time best iOS apps, the developer on his own routinely added new features the day Apple released them, features some of the largest corporations on Earth still haven’t added months/years later.
Oh and uh speaking of making personal attacks, the developer of Apollo is a MacRumors member and has posted in this thread. 👀
Actually if you read my words carefully you will note I have been very respectful. There is no sense in us going on like this. I feel I have made my point enough for the masses to consider their own opinion, I recognize you do not like that I took some steam out of this party, I guess I feel a little guilty for that, but what I said needed saying.
Show me a mistruth please.
You’re taking the side of a greedy, giant corporation and blasting an indie app developer asking for fiscal consideration from a tiny amount of users who might minimally mitigate his losses perhaps 5%. As a default action, most uninformed customers will just indifferently accept their refund. Basically he’s burying his labor of love, his proverbial infant… and you’re saying “your baby sucked, better it’s dead.”
Getting it?
It’s tasteless and shameful of you to crap on the little developers who truly make iOS special and root for giant, faceless corporations. Particularly when you’ve never opened Xcode and shipped your own apps. It’s unlikely Christian got Taylor Swift, or even Marco Arment level rich from Apollo.
That is not what I said. You are misunderstanding me, maybe by accident, but you are misunderstanding me. Go start from the beginning. Read carefully this time.
I am not so sure about the “it needed saying” part, but it is a free country, and you are certainly entitled to that right in the very least.
Wow some of you are really rude and aggressive for no reason. The developer posted and is respectful. Maybe if you have nothing nice to say don’t say anything at all. Lol
No I’m very clear on what you said.
It’s tactless, stone cold, and sh*ts on indie developers who keep this platform from becoming an Android like hellhole more than it naturally slides toward.
You should be mourning a fantastic 3rd party app. Not applauding the greed fueled actions of a Silicon Valley company who hasn’t paid you a dime to defend them.
Ah, so you don't actually know anything about this, but you felt the need to make your voice heard...
People aren't pissed that Reddit is cutting API access. *that* would be stupid. People are pissed off about a) how Reddit is choosing to do this, and b) how their CEO has repeatedly lied the interactions with app developers to make himself look less idiotic.