If the market is fine with Apple doing that then Apple will probably quite happily do it.
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App Store Prices Increasing in the UK and Other Countries on February 13
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That’s a ridiculous assertion. But as I said, the point it was suggested that because it was on the internet, and reported by Kuo and 'other unnamed sources' and I believe that it should not be treated as even somewhat accurate. It’s a freaking rumour!
But getting to the point: People can go off half-cocked suggesting it was rebadged, and just like every one year upgraded model, there are many things the same. Nothing at all new here.
But take for example a person with an iPhone 13. Would they upgrade? Doubtful because the main difference is the camera system. If they have a 12, and photography is important, then a 14 is a definite improvement over the 13. Tell me that isn’t the case? If they have an 11, it’s probably a no brainer if they have the cash.
For many years now a 1 year improvement is barely worth it for the majority of people (in almost all cases), but for a 2 or 3 year upgrade, it most definitely is compelling for a much broader group.
So you can get on your high horse about it being a rebadge, but you’re wrong. It has definite improvements that a person who enjoys photography would see the benefit, particularly over 2 years. Or are you one of those people who want to upgrade every year?
And you’re one of those people who also say Apple shouldn’t release a new phone every year? Because that would be consistent. Otherwise you have no argument. Why deny a person who wants to upgrade a 2 year old phone who wants a better camera when the CPU is already more than enough. Because Kuo doesn’t like the numbers.. seriously.
It's okay to be a diehard fanboy and still be rational. Apple reusing old chipsets on a brand new iPhone is bad precedent. It should not be defended the way you are defending it.
So you’d rather they skipped a year then. Got it. An even better precedent.
I think it makes perfect sense when the chipset is already far and above what is needed. And most importantly, as apple does, it will support the OS for many years. And isn't user experience the most important thing, or is it have the latest fastest processor for that all important 10% increase?
I really don’t understand your argument.
- What is the actual point of putting in a faster chipset on the non pro phone when it would make virtually no difference to the function?
- What benefit could people actually get from it?
- It has a better camera and that’s what people want isn’t it?
VAT isn't a company tax but a national consumer tax. Most companies don't pay VAT.
If an Irish newspaper sells an electronic subscription to a customer in the US, Ireland doesn't collect VAT and never has. It's then up to the US if they want to collect sales tax or other taxes.
Some of us supports a free market in which companies are allowed to set their own prices.
It's especially easy do defend for nonessential goods or markets where there are competition and alternatives.
And how many European countries has put in place price controls on computers, software and the like?
No one, I believe.
Price controls should almost never be used in a market driven economy and should be limited to a few essential things like housing, energy and essential food. And even for those segments it should be limited in time.
1. Same reason that exists for upgrade in Pro iPhones, in Macbooks, in Mac desktops, in Apple Watches. Also 3rd party software becomes slower on older processors over time so an year old processor would mean your phone would get slower before Pro devices.
2. Faster phone for a longer period of time.
3. People want a better camera, and better display, longer battery, and a faster phone that they can use for a longer duration.
Exactly this. Browsing for new free apps brings no joy as it is most likely a paid app in disguise (in-app purchases). Or it has ads that play for full 2 minutes before able to use or continue. Having this experience is no different that Android Play Store. I thought Apple's App Store was all about quality and experience.
It was SJ's stubborness in not allowing apps to charge for upgrades or have demo apps that have lead to the situation we are in now - where apps need to go to subscriptions in order to maintain a steady stream of revenue.
🤣 I haven't been able to find an App Store app worth paying for in years. Especially those crappy games they charge $30+ for.
Cook is an opportunistic penny-pinching hypocrite.
"Due to exchange rates", my hole. Fact-checking (USD-GBP over the past year) would debunk that in a second. The tanking of the pound that happened in October was temporary and down to the idiocy of a pair of politicians that had a shelf life shorter than a supermarket-bought lettuce.
"Due to exchange rates", my hole. Fact-checking (USD-GBP over the past year) would debunk that in a second. The tanking of the pound that happened in October was temporary and down to the idiocy of a pair of politicians that had a shelf life shorter than a supermarket-bought lettuce.
It sounds exactly like you’re after an iPhone Pro by paying less. All power to you brother.
The conversation wasn't about price controls, it was about market controls, such as ensuring competition, avoiding monopolies and enshrining consumer protection.
No it does not. I want an iPhone non pro with same upgrades like iPhone 13, iPhone 12, iPhone 11 and so on. This is the first iPhone non pro that didn't update the chipset. How hard is it for you to grasp your head around that?
I for one update my iPhone every 2 years. I have the iPhone 12 and couldn't make my mind to shell out for another phone and still get an old chipset so I'm going to now wait for iPhone 15, and hope they don't pull off this trick again.
I can't remember seeing games for $30+. I have had a lot of fun with puzzle games like the House of DaVinci series. They were only $5. I don't have a game console but the iPad is a good replacement.
That sounds great, you’ve saved money and helped the environment by not ditching a perfectly capable phone!
iPhone 5C had the same processor as the iPhone 5, which came out a year earlier.
It can be at least partially due to exchange rates. When Apple had announced an App Store price decrease for the UK (and other countries) back in August 2021 the exchange rate was around 1 GBP = $1.39 USD. Even with the recent weakening of the USD/strengthening of the GBP, the USD is still around 12% stronger against the GBP today than it was in August 2021 and therefore would justify a price increase.
It would justify an even larger price increase if this was done back in September but whether increasing or decreasing prices, Apple doesn't necessarily react to exchange rate changes quickly.
Respectfully, I disagree with a rationale that the 14 should always have the same chipset as the iPhone 14 Pro, in EXACTLY the same way as the iPad has a different chipset to the iPad Pro. Like I said, more power to you.
Good luck with your quest, and I hope you get what you want so you’re no longer angry.
This has been done to death, as we obviously disagree, so thanks for your thoughts.
You are right about Pro getting a faster processor than standard devices but it doesn't mean the pro standard devices have to be treated like iPhone SE or iPad Classic where they plonk an old gen chipset. I think they can take the approach that they follow with macbooks where you get more power cores on higher models.
Exactly, they're probably well over the hump of the curve where raising prices will increase total profit. They will keep losing money by sales dropping from people getting priced out
I thought they were making fun of Apple and their insane pricing. What most of the do though is they will raise prices in step with their coste BUT they will lower prices slower slower than their costs go down. They gouge you on the way down. See it all the time with gas. Raises dimes or quarters at a time but drops by pennies and possibly a nickel at a time
Fair enough, but I’m wondering what the value is of more power cores on a phone when efficiency is the goal. But like I said, agree to disagree. You feel aggrieved and I recognise those feelings….
Yea "I am Poor" with photos of hot dogs in a piece of bread and other poor people meme stereotypesHmmm could be one like...
"I Am Poor And My Secondhand iPhone Was Paid Off Over 84 Months" App with a blank screen.