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I think that demonstrates a difference between the US and Europe (and maybe other parts of the world too) - The US is more absolutely capitalist, where the priority seems to be for companies to make money, even when that doesn't necessarily serve the interests of the consumer. It's always interesting to see the "Go Apple!" comments on here when something happens that's in Apple's favour, but is detrimental to the consumer. On the other hand, in other markets there are often controls put in place to balance the interests of the consumer with the power of large corporates.
Yep ,that's why the US have the beloved "hire and fire" philosophy, where the homelessness is just one paycheck away, coupled with an anti-social non-universal healthcare system, pay or die.

 
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It's about time for third-party AppStores and competition.
Should be up to the developer to decide if he wants to increase the price of his app or not.
Not every developer wants to slurp on customers wallet.
I'm pretty sure developers don't want less money because of Exchange rates or increased taxes.
 
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What exchange rate
1 GBP = 1.25 USD , it's the same rate as May 2022.
Why increase the prices now?
( They also just increased the prices of the products as well )
Inflation is dropping, exchange rates dropping. Apple using it as an excuse to price gouge more. No one else is raising prices in this market place.
 
It’s apple’s fault in the first place if most software moved to that model. With SJ if an app was free to download it could never have paid in app purchases, let alone subscription. If you wanted your app not to be free you’d have to be upfront about it. Of course that changed with Tim Cook who only cares about profit, even when it’s detrimental to transparency or user experience.

Apple has been offering free apps with in app purchases for years before Tim came along, fact.
 
Mistake? Lolol. You kid.
If you are countering that iPhone 14 sales are not low then provide some evidence to support your claim and if you are claiming that Apple nerfed the standard iPhone 14 devices to boost the sales figures of Pro devices, then I would also agree with you, because that's what it looks like and the strategy worked for them in the short run, in the long run it may create the same problem that iPhone XR did for Apple.
 
I think that demonstrates a difference between the US and Europe (and maybe other parts of the world too) - The US is more absolutely capitalist, where the priority seems to be for companies to make money, even when that doesn't necessarily serve the interests of the consumer. It's always interesting to see the "Go Apple!" comments on here when something happens that's in Apple's favour, but is detrimental to the consumer. On the other hand, in other markets there are often controls put in place to balance the interests of the consumer with the power of large corporates.

Yeah, the mindset in the US is clearly different and there's irrationally strong support for corporations. This isn't a political forum so not going into what caused this, suffice to say I always found it odd to see how Americans react to some things that involve the interests of corporations in opposition to the interests of the people. Wild stuff.

It’s apple’s fault in the first place if most software moved to that model. With SJ if an app was free to download it could never have paid in app purchases, let alone subscription. If you wanted your app not to be free you’d have to be upfront about it. Of course that changed with Tim Cook who only cares about profit, even when it’s detrimental to transparency or user experience.

This doesn't make any sense to me, why celebrate Jobs' stance here? I actually prefer to use paid apps as I know they will be better built and without ads, but I don't want to pay for an app before trying it. Being able to download an app for free is critical because then I can check how it works and what it is. Otherwise I may feel cheated if I download a piece of garbage that had to be paid for upfront but didn't offer anything worthwhile to me or wasn't working to begin with. No real reason for a piece of software to not offer you a free trial so I think enabling IAP is excellent. And the "not being upfront about it" part is confusing as well, since every app has IAPs disclosed on the app info page, with prices. It's just a question of taking a few seconds to see the IAP section to know what you're in for, it's not like the IAP part is hidden in any way.
 
I'm the same. I think Apple can do whatever they want. It's their business. If I can't afford their services, I will withdraw. Same as Netflix, Prime etc. At the moment, I pay for Apple One+ and that's it, so I guess I'm way above $200. I can't think of a single App that I would purchase that doesn't have a subscription to it, and I make that call when or if I need it.
I didn't include my Apple One+ or other subscriptions in my Apple budget. Including those would prolly put me close to $200.
 
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BMW already charges owners to use heated seats. Costs 18 Dollar per month. In South Korea… soon in your theatre!

I believe the subscription is still optional as you can pay "full price" for heated seats alone or as part of a package. Additionally, I believe you can also subscribe and unsubscribe which if so, may not be a bad idea as you won't typically need them for the full year and can subscribe only during the winter months. Choosing which way to go can depend on how long someone plans to keep the car.

Leasing (which many BMW customers do) is kind of like a subscription anyway, although with leasing you usually have the option to buy the car at the end.
 
Inflation is dropping, exchange rates dropping. Apple using it as an excuse to price gouge more. No one else is raising prices in this market place.

Inflation is dropping, at least in some countries, but that doesn't mean it's going away or into negative territory (deflation). Inflation is still high in many countries.

Also, the USD is still stronger than it was back in August 2021 when Apple had reduced App Store prices in the UK and elsewhere.

Other companies have been raising prices and if rumors are true, Samsung is expected to increase prices on their new phones in various countries next month.
 

If you are countering that iPhone 14 sales are not low then provide some evidence to support your claim and if you are claiming that Apple nerfed the standard iPhone 14 devices to boost the sales figures of Pro devices, then I would also agree with you, because that's what it looks like and the strategy worked for them in the short run, in the long run it may create the same problem that iPhone XR did for Apple.
Interesting link. "Sources say…". "Kuo says in his blog". Pretty disappointing coming from Forbes. It’s a fluff piece imo.

I have know idea what iPhone14 sales are, and apparently neither does the author, Gordon Kelly. I’ll counter that article by saying "sources say that apple are doing just fine."
 
Interesting link. "Sources say…". "Kuo says in his blog". Pretty disappointing coming from Forbes. It’s a fluff piece imo.

I have know idea what iPhone14 sales are, and apparently neither does the author, Gordon Kelly. I’ll counter that article by saying "sources say that apple are doing just fine."
Sir this is a rumour site and Kuo is the most trustworthy source there is, at least in the Apple world.
 
What exchange rate
1 GBP = 1.25 USD , it's the same rate as May 2022.
Why increase the prices now?
( They also just increased the prices of the products as well )
The UK also had much high inflation last year at more than 10% compared to the US’s 6.5%. The amount developers get paid need to keep up with prices. Besides, if you want to swallow the inflation for your app you have the option of opting out of the price increase.
 
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Interesting link. "Sources say…". "Kuo says in his blog". Pretty disappointing coming from Forbes. It’s a fluff piece imo.

I have know idea what iPhone14 sales are, and apparently neither does the author, Gordon Kelly. I’ll counter that article by saying "sources say that apple are doing just fine."

It’s up to Forbes to verify that their source is accurate and up to readers to decide whether to trust Forbes’s judgement, but just because the source isn’t named doesn’t necessarily mean it has no basis. With these kinds of news there are often strict NDAs in place to prevent leaks.

Kuo also has one of the best track records. If you look back on the articles a year ago his predictions have almost all panned out.
 
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Isn’t a more appropriate title something like tax increases in some EU countries to increase prices in egoods marketplaces?
 
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It’s apple’s fault in the first place if most software moved to that model. With SJ if an app was free to download it could never have paid in app purchases, let alone subscription. If you wanted your app not to be free you’d have to be upfront about it. Of course that changed with Tim Cook who only cares about profit, even when it’s detrimental to transparency or user experience.

Yeah none of that is accurate. IAP was introduced in 2009 under Jobs and subscriptions were introduced in 2011. Remember the now defunct “The Daily” news paper that Murdock made for the the iPad? Jobs was very enthusiastic about collaborating on a newspaper that would be a $5 per issue subscription.

IAP and subscriptions are a great way to give users a taste of that they can expect. Subscriptions are also necessary these days for many apps that no longer rely local data storage and processing. I see no issue with them as long as companies don’t abuse it.
 
What exchange rate
1 GBP = 1.25 USD , it's the same rate as May 2022.
Why increase the prices now?
( They also just increased the prices of the products as well )
Thats not how commercial exchange rates work. Apple will have set it a time and date at the begining of a quarter ( many businesses do this and dollar / pound rate we’re much more dollar weighted just a few weeks ago) .

Costs of doing business in the UK have also be badly hit by the B word - Import duties apply from the EU ( Apple European ops are based in Eire and Luxembourg and that didn’t 2 years ago ( typically about 6.5%) and there will be some hedging admittedly.

Now the question where the should have absorbed some of those costs is another issue entirely.
That said right now with domestic inflation rates remaining high , many businesses see an opportunity to raise prices ( done it in my own Fire and Safety businesses )
Mean but capitalism 101
 
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It’s up to Forbes to verify that their source is accurate and up to readers to decide whether to trust Forbes’s judgement, but just because the source isn’t named doesn’t necessarily mean it has no basis. With these kinds of news there are often strict NDAs in place to prevent leaks.

Kuo also has one of the best track records. If you look back on the articles a year ago his predictions have almost all panned out.

He is a freelance writer. The report was an opinion piece, not one of any kind of fact. Yet it's being represented as such here.

Kuo might be accurate with leaks more times than not, but this is about sales figures. At best, Kuo is still guessing.

Sir this is a rumour site and Kuo is the most trustworthy source there is, at least in the Apple world.

There is a big difference between a rumour site and a fact site. The point is the journo wasn't quoting facts, he was quoting rumours and you guys act as if they are facts.

But believe any rumour you what you want and think of them as facts. And I will respond to, you know, actual facts.
 
He is a freelance writer. The report was an opinion piece, not one of any kind of fact. Yet it's being represented as such here.

Kuo might be accurate with leaks more times than not, but this is about sales figures. At best, Kuo is still guessing.



There is a big difference between a rumour site and a fact site. The point is the journo wasn't quoting facts, he was quoting rumours and you guys act as if they are facts.

But believe any rumour you what you want and think of them as facts. And I will respond to, you know, actual facts.
Actually those are estimates.. and they are based on productions. So they may not be absolute facts, but they are not as wild guesses as you want them to be. Regardless I am not seeing a point here.. are you actually advocating that Apple should continue to rebadge old devices and sell them as new for the same price, year after year?
 
Actually those are estimates.. and they are based on productions. So they may not be absolute facts, but they are not as wild guesses as you want them to be. Regardless I am not seeing a point here.. are you actually advocating that Apple should continue to rebadge old devices and sell them as new for the same price, year after year?
He’s probably indifferent and of the opinion that the market will decide.
 
Market did decide but he is refusing to admit that by calling indicators as rumours. 😐
I’d say it’s much too soon to say the market has decided. Best to wait until the products have been on the market for at least a year or so.
 
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I’d say it’s much too soon to say the market has decided. Best to wait until the products have been on the market for at least a year or so.
I just hope that Apple doesn't make it a norm that you get last year's SoC on freshly baked standard iPhones. Worse I fear the market accepts that norm.
 
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