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Apple Accuses Epic Games of Wanting a 'Free Ride'
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You have the choice to buy a device that allows you to load whatever you want: Android
A strange suggestion when Apple uses cryptographic controls which prevent not just loading alternate OS but even rolling back to previous Apple OS versions.
But even when the cryptographic controls can be broken there is still the issue that Apple’s hardware is undocumented and driverless which makes development of alternative OS extremely difficult. It took years, for example, to get even rudimentary graphics support for Linux under Apple Silicon (when booting natively as opposed to running virtualized under MacOS)
Yup. These companies don’t care about consumers, they want that sweet 30% commission back in their pocket and using “consumer choice” and people’s emotional attachment to hating a company as the vessel to get there.
If you want that flexibility, get an Android phone. I like that the Apple ecosystem is designed the way it is - which is one of the reasons why I use Apple devices.
Free games? Adds? I’m speaking of 0% commission for selling it or in app sales and be allowed to keep all the revenue as a developer.
Its competition in the service and store that I as a consumer as well as developer can use on iOS.
Neither have my best interests in mind. They are out for themselves.
why do you think Apple allows all the predatory games to be sold in their store? Or advertising in the wallet?
the biggest store was cydia and third party store before the AppStore was even launched. Apple opted to let developers provide apps instead dof webapps saved it from becoming a new newton.
Are Developer to be forever gratefully? Developers have been frankly annoyed with Apple and their rules to just make things worse.
Do you think users are happy they can’t signup for Netflix in the app? Do you think Netflix don’t want to have that in the app? They just don’t want to pay 30%. And that’s also why we got most of the terrible freemium apps to try and make more money to escape apples large cut.
99$? You think it’s free to develop a game? Pay developers, rent and running costs?
What do you think happens if I make 100k the first year but I have 70k in expenses for salaries and 30k goes to Apple? Apples commission is a cost you can’t escape 🤷♂️
They did. They developed their owngames, their own Game Engine and their own store. Now what are they mooching of Apple?
Well i already owning my device. And I would rather put pressure on Apple to improve it more go somewhere else that is already worse? Have you seen how hard it is to ”jailbreak” Samsung devices? Most are closed down closer to iOS.
If my steam library worked on Linux I would abandone Windows. If Apple computers could actually use proper GPUs from Nvidia I would still have Mac.
The ecosystem and all my purchases and hardware is built around Apple since 20010 and is a bit expansive to change. Back then I just jailbroke my devices and purchased mods, and today I just use certificates to continue to do that. And hopefully it will get better so I don’t need to do that.
Ironic he is taking 0% fee currently. And allowed alternative options for free as well🤷♂️.
Apple is the only greedy one here
Android option might be going away soon since Google is planning to mandate developer approval for all apps and not just the ones distributed via Google Play Store.
Freeloaders! Just like those starving children in Africa! They need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
Epic and tim swiney are the worst in terms of attitude and entitlement, I would not knowingly buy anything from them. On the other hand I would agree that Apple could reduce their fees and be fine with like 15-20%. They did change the things they were asked to and now epic is back with more ridiculous demands that will be thrown out of court. Ok, they could be paid outside the App Store but you still gotta pay Apple for the app approval/validation, hosting in the app store, bandwidth etc. It's like a used car lot where you need to pay to use their space or their services. Tim swiney is just egotistical and it drives potential gamers away, not a good look.
Gaming on "open" platforms like windows 11 still sucks big time btw, so many bugs and issues especially with updates and then you have windows itself which continues to be the FIAT of OSs. Can't say I like their world of sideloading openness, you spend a lot of time fixing things rather than gaming. Often it's due to faulty updates, no one checking their subpar work and weak MSDOS based platforms.
Gaming on "open" platforms like windows 11 still sucks big time btw, so many bugs and issues especially with updates and then you have windows itself which continues to be the FIAT of OSs. Can't say I like their world of sideloading openness, you spend a lot of time fixing things rather than gaming. Often it's due to faulty updates, no one checking their subpar work and weak MSDOS based platforms.
Apple is no better when talking about "attitude and entitlement".
They are in a league of their own --- always have been.
They're entitled to create their own platform and their rules yes. They also have a right to be proud, they make the best phones and best computers. Epic just has a narcissistic guy raging for the past 5 years achieving practically nothing... Epic just comes from outside the house and tries to bully them into something that will make a mess for everyone, like windows.
You don't actually think Windows is bad because it lets you install software from wherever, do you?
Apple is a bully and is using the term “free ride” as a dog whistle to get the political right-wing on their side.
Objectively.
It seems like the Epic Games marketing strategy is just to prove to everyone that they are giant a*holes.
I think it's a weak OS, based on a weak foundation, DOS, I wish Apple Vision worked with steam and then it would be bye bye ms forever. It could be nice and stable like MacOS which also allowed me to install apps from anywhere, but no, it's the same low grade OS as 20 years ago that'll cease to function just because of an update...
That's exactly the impression they've been giving for the last five years, I would never even try one of their games.
How about if they don’t want to be hosted in the AppStore or go through an approval and not use apples bandwidth. They want to use their own
they can do that on Android, can't they? They can reach 3x the number of people (~ 4.5B vs 1.5B) - how is that working out for them?
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They are doing it on windows, android and Mac without doing a revenue share . And they want to do it on iOS as well without a revenue share.
Meeting a larger part of the market is just in their interest. If the AppStore is great it will stay irrelevant and we will move on as normal, unless it actually is a realistic threat
Of course it does. When you pay for the phone you expect it to have a viable app development/distribution infrastructure. Just like with Macs.
No, you have no right to expect anything other than what is explicitly stated in the sales agreement/ToS. Every other argument fails factually.
I just miss all the cool 2d treadmill games we used to have.
I'm glad mega run is back by get set games, but I'd like to see more games like that.
I'm glad mega run is back by get set games, but I'd like to see more games like that.