Agreed.
I highly doubt apple would need to hire "outside" for something this simple.
Hell, I could code most of their new system in a week.
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Apple Acquiring iOS Developer to Revamp Notification System?
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Agreed.
I highly doubt apple would need to hire "outside" for something this simple.
Hell, I could code most of their new system in a week.
I skimmed the Think Beyond event and I have to say, if I were going to buy something other than an iPad, I think I'd consider the TouchPad over a Honeycomb device. I don't think Google is going to have as easy a time in the tablet market, but that's pure speculation.
In the case of Android, this may be correct (I'm not positive), but the app does not have to be running in order for a notification to be triggered. Android has a push-notification system similar to Apple's except that the notification is able to trigger actions. Which means that the notification could just show something in the notification drop-down, or it could trigger the app to do something (in the background or the foreground.)
More info: http://code.google.com/android/c2dm/
I hope so
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Yeah but you know apple: even if they have a "better" notification system up and running they won't release it to the public until they "feel" that it's at 100% and runs flawlessly with all other aspects of iOS. I mean how long did we have to wait for copy and paste?!?!?
If they do fix and upgrade the notification system it will be one less reason for me to JB. Ahh I'll prob always have reasons to stay JB but just saying. At least June isn't that far away Anders hope the iph4 can support any updates smoothly. You never know. Hey look at the 3G with iOS 4 and I even know some people with 3GS that it's more then laggy on.
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Well if they just buy up a company that did a better job they don't really have to worry about IP issues...
It'd be pretty easy to just do a pulldown notification shade like Android or WebOS. That's probably what the guy they hired recommended.
Yet my gut says that they (meaning Jobs) want it to be "different" than anything else out there, mostly just to be different. Kind of like how they did their "multitasking" bar instead of a separate Recent Apps and Running Task Manager... the combination of which actually confuses newbies.
What method did the company they just bought use?
iOS needs overhauling in many ways.
Its notification system is very much like my 6 year old Sony Ericssons which presented a big box on the screen saying I have a new message. How about when I get a new text it chimes, flashes a little light and puts a text symbol in that largely wasted status bar along the top. Same for emails.
How about the lock screen showing upcoming calendar events, unread texts and emails? Maybe even the weather and current location? That last one my k800 did...on holiday to Prague strangely enough.
Why can't we have widgets to show this info too, like in-between the first app screen and the search screen? Let's call it a dashboard....something Apple invented no less. It could duplicate its look to the lock screen so they would be the same.
How about customisable UI. Being able to change the wallpaper does not really make the idevice feel very....individual. How about a different colour scheme?
Sadly, besides a few features jacked on like "multitasking" and folders iOS4 plays very much like the 3 iterations before it.
Its notification system is very much like my 6 year old Sony Ericssons which presented a big box on the screen saying I have a new message. How about when I get a new text it chimes, flashes a little light and puts a text symbol in that largely wasted status bar along the top. Same for emails.
How about the lock screen showing upcoming calendar events, unread texts and emails? Maybe even the weather and current location? That last one my k800 did...on holiday to Prague strangely enough.
Why can't we have widgets to show this info too, like in-between the first app screen and the search screen? Let's call it a dashboard....something Apple invented no less. It could duplicate its look to the lock screen so they would be the same.
How about customisable UI. Being able to change the wallpaper does not really make the idevice feel very....individual. How about a different colour scheme?
Sadly, besides a few features jacked on like "multitasking" and folders iOS4 plays very much like the 3 iterations before it.
WIDGETS!!! it's crazy that OS X has dashboard but iOS doesn't have it. it would be the perfect tablet widget layer. just have homescreens that act like dashboard instead of the infuriating grid system for apps. the lockscreen too.
I still don't get what the drawbacks are with iOS's notification system. It's completely integrated into the UI. You get modal dialogs for alerts on top of everything else and you see what's waiting for you with the red badges on each app. I can't remember the last time I missed something. What's wrong with that?
And yes, I've used the Android version myself. My wife has a Droid Eris and I've seen how it works firsthand. The result of Android's approach is that she overlooks a lot of notifications accidentally. She's not a "techie" in any sense of the word and she forgets to check her notifications queue even though she knows where and what it is. I don't think non-gadget-geek types think of their phone as something they need to constantly manage, and as a result, if she doesn't hear a text or call arrive, she's very likely to completely miss it.
So, I don't see iOS's approach being any better or worse than Android's.
And yes, I've used the Android version myself. My wife has a Droid Eris and I've seen how it works firsthand. The result of Android's approach is that she overlooks a lot of notifications accidentally. She's not a "techie" in any sense of the word and she forgets to check her notifications queue even though she knows where and what it is. I don't think non-gadget-geek types think of their phone as something they need to constantly manage, and as a result, if she doesn't hear a text or call arrive, she's very likely to completely miss it.
So, I don't see iOS's approach being any better or worse than Android's.
There may also be patent issues preventing Apple from adopting the Android method, too. (Anyone know what patents there are in this area?)
The only one they could, the pop up box. They were confined by iOS's system. They were just an aggregator for a lot of different services that users wanted notifications from. That's why I don't have the greatest confidence they'd know how to implement an entirely new system.
Yeah, remember this just a few years ago at the WWDC? Jobs was so proud.
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Then why is she using a smartphone?
And do you not find it annoying when you are half way through destroying evil pigs about to land the perfect bird and whammmmo a big old useless text comes up in the middle of the screen causing the bird to misfire with the text saying simply "ok" cos you have idiot friends who think they always have to reply to every text sent?
My Motorola MPX210 from 2003 with Windows Mobile 2003 had better ways of telling me I had texts.
Apple should embrace the jailbreak community. I know, Apple likes to control the interface, but if they want to bring user desired improvements to the platform faster, they should hire or buy out some of the things available in Cydia. It would also be nice if they offered the extensions as options, like Cydia.
Well, maybe in an alternate reality it will happen.
Well, maybe in an alternate reality it will happen.
Yep, those are the 2 reasons I'm jailbroken.
Like many in this thread have said, its really hard to believe Apple released a notification system like they currently have.
Not sure what they used. Although to be honest I actually like how they have their "multitask bar.". I've used my friends HTC incredible and it's anything but. It's multitouch interface doesn't compare and their multitask management system is nice but I enjoy how I can skip a song in pandora with out having to actually go into the app itself.
Sometimes it's just not fair that we have to wait so long. An (at least optional) Lockscreen info is essential, especially for business users. I'm using LockCalendar from Cydia and it works fine, I don't think it would take Apple long to code something simple like this.
Notifications are not that bad, I like the red badges, but there definitely needs to be a log. Used the notification bar on a friend's android, it's really good and looks useful/smooth. One advantage of Android, although I don't like their overall look and feel...
Notifications are not that bad, I like the red badges, but there definitely needs to be a log. Used the notification bar on a friend's android, it's really good and looks useful/smooth. One advantage of Android, although I don't like their overall look and feel...
I agree, but I think the part that will take some replumbing is a way to get into the list. If every app that showed the signal/clock bar had to now allow a clickable icon that would allow access and switching to a certain message like WebOS does, it would be disruptive.
Apple may just create a multi-tasking tray widget to get to notifications, but I see that as only catchup not a polished solution. I'm hoping to be impressed.
except that he was replying to the comments:
Widgets (Android) or Live Tiles (WP7) are also two "musts" in my opinion.
Finally, a file system for photos, videos, etc would be great.
Finally, a file system for photos, videos, etc would be great.
...which is more crap ios doesnt need. which is why the quote was perfect.
Sorry iOS fans...the notifications are the worst of all mobile OSs.
If i had to order them:
WebOS
Windows Phone 7
Android
Blackberry
Symbian
iOS
Seriously, thats what i miss most of WebOS how lovely it was ignoring or responding to your notifications.
If i had to order them:
WebOS
Windows Phone 7
Android
Blackberry
Symbian
iOS
Seriously, thats what i miss most of WebOS how lovely it was ignoring or responding to your notifications.
I don't think you need Live Tiles...but widgets are something i would miss greatly if i leave android.
I don't even use that many large scale widgets...i just like the one touch widgets for my services like wifi, bluetooth hotspot etc. I also have my Agenda view as a widget which is very useful.