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Ok, I like the ad but I call fowl on Facetime being in the ad.

AT&T does not allow Facetime on its network. It's total BS to show it in an ad that's about their network and to make it worse they show Facetime immediately before lowering the phone to show the AT&T logo behind the phone.

That's not cool at all. I pretty much consider that part of the ad a lie. I mean, how else are you supposed to interpret that other than to think AT&T has Facetime? They don't.

(And I'm only giving Verizon a pass here because they haven't announced yet if they'll allow Facetime. This will also apply to that half of the ad if they end up saying they don't support it.)

Talk to the hand. The facetime don't want to hear it.
 
Two is better than one, but four is even better. Apple needs to get their head out of their butt and get it on the other 2 networks PRONTO. No more of this "but it's hard!" bs.

It's not hard outside of being on the two worst carriers in America. They can wait for Sprint and T-Mobile.

The iPhone was not the original smartphone. BlackBerry existed way before that. The first media/touchscreen smartphone? Yes.

Don't forget the Treo.
 
At 8 seconds it's the AT&T iPhone. Nice try. It'd actually be slower on Verizon but more likely to load.

And the parts where they only show ONE iPhone is the one that is on verizon because it probably would have been slower on the att one, so they didn't show them side by side for that moment.

I'd like to see a real test and Apple better know it.

There will be HUNDREDS of REAL Demo's of speed coming soon,so...

Look out Verizon .

I Dislike AT&T but hate lies more

speed wise I think att will be faster. Im in Los angeles and i get 4.2 down at my top speed. and i avg around 3.2 down
 
LOL - You know what? You just found the exact loophole their lawyers probably did.

I find it amusing that at&t considers those hotspots "part of their network," but you're right...they do think that!
Well if they are also the wired ISP for that hotspot location then it is part of their core network.

Data request for a cell phone go from the phone to the cell tower to the backhaul and into the core network of the provider. Data traffic eventually goes through the same pipes regardless of whether it is DSL or cellular.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)

No iphone regardless of network has facetime on 3g
 
Well if they are also the wired ISP for that hotspot location then it is part of their core network.

Data request for a cell phone go from the phone to the cell tower to the backhaul and into the core network of the provider. Data traffic eventually goes through the same pipes regardless of whether it is DSL or cellular.

The point is, they advertise themselves as a 'mobile network' not a 'sit in a Starbucks network.'

That's the reason I don't really "count" those. They don't really contribute to what at&t advertises themselves as.
 
Ok, I like the ad but I call fowl on Facetime being in the ad.

AT&T does not allow Facetime on its network. It's total BS to show it in an ad that's about their network and to make it worse they show Facetime immediately before lowering the phone to show the AT&T logo behind the phone.

That's not cool at all. I pretty much consider that part of the ad a lie. I mean, how else are you supposed to interpret that other than to think AT&T has Facetime? They don't.

So I'm sure, if you study the menu of the phones, there will be WiFi connections there.
 
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