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It is time for Apple to introduce the iPad Pro to the "S" cycle. This way they can alpha and beta test (like they are already doing now:mad:) the initial model and fix it in the "S" cycle!

I will buy the S models.:)
even if that was the case they still need to fix the current problem soon!

first step is in admitting it!
 
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I just heard a rumour that Tim Cook has been in contact with a high ranking official of Wakanda to formalise a steady supply of Vibranium. Its a done deal and is only being held up by King T’Challa having gone somewhat missing. Word has it that his return will coincide during the next AGM of The Avengers (supposedly slated for April 2019) so finger crossed it will all come to fruition before the next release of the 2019 iPhones and iPads.

Source please;):cool:!

Or as some fanatic fans keep asking for the bend - "Prove it!:rolleyes::p"
 
I just heard a rumour that Tim Cook has been in contact with a high ranking official of Wakanda to formalise a steady supply of Vibranium. Its a done deal and is only being held up by King T’Challa having gone somewhat missing. Word has it that his return will coincide during the next AGM of The Avengers (supposedly slated for April 2019) so finger crossed it will all come to fruition before the next release of the 2019 iPhones and iPads.
I hear it is a derivative of Unobtainium, the ultimate material forever in the future of alloy dreams:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium
 
Source please;):cool:!

My mate Jor-El says its on the up and up and his son, Kal-El, is investigating via his channels. One can take it for what it is, and I can give a little leeway given his planet blew up not so long ago. What I will say is when the question of what was to be done with the Vibranium and whether a non-Wakandan was able to manipulate it only laughter was heard. As with all things knowing the truth is hard. Watch this space.
 
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Yes. They said it can happen and replaced the car.

There wouldn't be a need for a warranty if there weren't manufacturing issues.

That’s the point Apple say this isn’t a warranty issue; it’s normal and as designed according to them!
 
ultimately i fear in time you will.

Im not saying all this stuff, recording youtube videos and typing these massive posts for attention. I love apple products, and i want to see them done right and sell a ton of them. Thats best for everyone.

The problem is that when apple designs something so thin without really looking into the consequences of it being that thin, denies a problem when there clearly is one (yes YOUR ipad not be bent at the moment but alot of peoples are out of the box) then tells costumers that if its bend its expectable OR you have to pay them for their own design mistake through no fault of your own, thats Apple taking advantage of the costumers and its not fair.

My Ipad Pro 12.9 wasnt bent. THAT SAID, they could not guarantee me that with every day use IN A CASE that it wouldent bend and if it did i would have to pay to have it repaired or replace out of my own pocket, despite video evidence showing time and time again the design is flaw, with daily use it ultimately is going to bend, and sooner or later ill be in this situation where the bed is bad enough where it will effect the performance of the screen and internals.

This is what everyone said about the iPhone 6+ and I'm still using my unbent device today. Yes, this is anecdotal.. but all this "it will eventually.." stuff is overblown speculation.
 
This is what everyone said about the iPhone 6+ and I'm still using my unbent device today. Yes, this is anecdotal.. but all this "it will eventually.." stuff is overblown speculation.

Apple better move to Germany to find some engineers who know their business.
 
Do people actually think it's possible to manufacture a product without microscopic bends?

Every product is designed with a tolerance metric. There is no such thing as a product designed with zero tolerance. This includes ultra fancy luxury products (smaller tolerances) to crappy products (large tolerance levels).

You do know that your Macbook Pro, Macs, iPhones, etc.. all have these same tolerance levels, right?

Your BMW's and Teslas also have bends in them.

Sure, there are tolerances in all sorts of products. IF you bought your BMW or Tesla and saw a noticeable defect in it, would BMW and Tesla say "it's normal, deal with it"
I've went through many Apple products, and haven't seen the quality fall as much as the last few years. It's all gaining as much profit now rather than creating a product that works.
 
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Sure, there are tolerances in all sorts of products. IF you bought your BMW or Tesla and saw a noticeable defect in it, would BMW and Tesla say "it's normal, deal with it"
I've went through many Apple products, and haven't seen the quality fall as much as the last few years. It's all gaining as much profit now rather than creating a product that works.

If it was within tolerance then BMW or Tesla would state such. Your local dealer might have mercy and repair something if it's possible, but they're not replacing vehicles for such things.

The Apple quality fail thing has been stated over and over for as long as I've been on this forum. The MacRumors sky is often falling when a new product launches.
 
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That’s the point Apple say this isn’t a warranty issue; it’s normal and as designed according to them!
Just no! You are wrong. They stated that if you believe the iPad is bend out of their stated tolerances, you should get it replaced.
 
The fanboy excuse machine is strong in you. Sure, there are tolerances in all sorts of products. IF you bought your BMW or Tesla and saw a noticeable defect in it, would BMW and Tesla say "it's normal, deal with it"
I've went through many Apple products, and haven't seen the quality fall as much as the last few years. It's all gaining as much profit now rather than creating a product that works.
It’s not about the quality falling imo. It’s about Jonny Ive being too powerful and forcing his design while ignoring the engineers. That was the case with antennagate on the iPhone 4, with Jobs siding with Ive over the engineers. Imo it’s a similar thing here. Ive probably wanted a flat and light design, ignoring some structural integrity concerns and foregoing internal support to achieve the lightness.
 
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This is what everyone said about the iPhone 6+ and I'm still using my unbent device today. Yes, this is anecdotal.. but all this "it will eventually.." stuff is overblown speculation.

Yup, same here... I have an early 6+ used it for around 3 years. Got a lot of use as my main camera - dropped it a few times, etc. Moved on to an X for the camera, but decided to keep the 6+ as a Wifi-only backup.

No issues, not bent at all.
 
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I didn’t experience this issue. I put the Apple provided covering and never looked back.
Of course you didn’t experience the issue, because you stuck your head in the sand and put it right in the case. Also, it’s not an “Apple provided covering”, the case is something sold separately.
 
The fanboy excuse machine is strong in you. Sure, there are tolerances in all sorts of products. IF you bought your BMW or Tesla and saw a noticeable defect in it, would BMW and Tesla say "it's normal, deal with it"
I've went through many Apple products, and haven't seen the quality fall as much as the last few years. It's all gaining as much profit now rather than creating a product that works.

I owned a 1984 Mac. And continue to buy Apple. I see zero difference in QA from now to then. What I DO see is an evolution of the product line from big and clunky to smooth and svelte. I too evolved from handling things rough, and treating them as the expensive product they are and handling with care. I could not disagree more with you, these products are insanely great. We have to take some personal responsibility on how we treat our possessions. I see very little acknowledgment of that in this thread.
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Of course you didn’t experience the issue, because you stuck your head in the sand and put it right in the case. Also, it’s not an “Apple provided covering”, the case is something sold separately.

Please, can we discuss this issue without making such accusations like fan boy or sticking ones head in the sand just because they present a different side than you?
 
Do not try and bend the iPad, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no iPad. Then you'll see that it is not the iPad that bends, it is only yourself
 
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I owned a 1984 Mac. And continue to buy Apple. I see zero difference in QA from now to then. What I DO see is an evolution of the product line from big and clunky to smooth and svelte. I too evolved from handling things rough, and treating them as the expensive product they are and handling with care. I could not disagree more with you, these products are insanely great. We have to take some personal responsibility on how we treat our possessions. I see very little acknowledgment of that in this thread.
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Please, can we discuss this issue without making such accusations like fan boy or sticking ones head in the sand just because they present a different side than you?

Please explain to me how taking the iPad out of the box and placing it directly into a case without so much as glancing to see if it’s bent is not sticking one’s head in the sand with regards to this issue.
 
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A ping pong, back and forth trend here:

Person a: I paid a kazillion dollars for this Apple thingy, and it was bent, overheated, had missing keys on the keyboard, etc. Fix it, Apple!

Person b: I paid the same money as you for the same Apple thingy, it wasn't bent, it didn't overheat, or have a bad keyboard, so I'm happy, and you are wrong and off base.

Person c: I have great wired speakers/headphones with high quality DACs, noise compensation, etc. I also need to travel 4 or more hours and don't want to worry about charging batteries, etc., while listening to music on my phone. What's wrong with having a phone jack, Apple? Bluetooth was already there. Why? (to sell more wireless headphones/speakers from Apple? nah.)

Person d: Wake up, last century dude. Wired is history, as are floppy disks, RS232 serial ports, and Walkmans. Welcome to the next century and grow up. Bluetooth is the new generation (batteries not included, and sorry about your DAC'y thing.)

Point: Apple is putting out flawed products at premium prices. They are removing features that are still needed by many of their customers (ports, jacks, etc.). They are sacrificing everything to the alter of thin and pretty. Perhaps that's fine with their emerging new customer base. They are making their devices hard to repair or upgrade. That is their decision, and in the last five years, they have managed to alienate a large formerly loyal customer base. Oh well.
 
No that is not what Apple stated. It is your interpretation of what Apple stated.

no,no,no,no
They straight out say if your iPad is bend out of the 400 microns tolerance you can change it due to a defect in workmanship.

These precision manufacturing techniques and a rigorous inspection process ensure that these new iPad Pro models meet an even tighter specification for flatness than previous generations. This flatness specification allows for no more than 400 microns of deviation across the length of any side — less than the thickness of four sheets of paper. [...]
f you believe your new iPad Pro does not meet the specifications described in this article, please contact Apple Support. Apple offers a 14-day return policy for products purchased directly from Apple. Apple also provides up to a one-year warranty on our products and will cover damage if it has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209403
 
And yet, punctuation still escaped you? I thought my OCD was weird. (Kidding.)

What the heck are you talking about lol?. OCD is weird and makes you less happy don't get confused, always take your meds always....
 
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If it was within tolerance then BMW or Tesla would state such. Your local dealer might have mercy and repair something if it's possible, but they're not replacing vehicles for such things.

The Apple quality fail thing has been stated over and over for as long as I've been on this forum. The MacRumors sky is often falling when a new product launches.

The analogy with car manufacturing is apt. Volkswagen, Skoda, and Audi can be made in the same factory, but with different quality, as can cars from different companies. This means machines will be more or less frequently calibrated, and higher or lower fails on stress tests are accepted. If you pay for a more expensive car, the bar will therefore be set higher, and it will not bend. If there would appear to be critical issues, car manufacturers have been taking back tens of thousands of cars to replace car parts in order to ensure safety and quality.

You will probably not die from using a bent iPad, but you can expect that it is tough enough to withstand normal use, which includes having it in your backpack, next to two books and a pen case, and it should be better than cheaper competitors.

Lately, Apple has not lived up to the expectations, sales are dropping, and someone needs to make a bow to regain the consumers confidence. And even if they don't, and keep targeting the market for snobbery, the quality will have to be very good, even if disproportionately priced, because you can't brag with a bent tablet.
 
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