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Apple Addresses iPhone Signal Strength Display in iOS 4.0.1, iPad Wi-Fi in iOS 3.2.1
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I always find people writing something that is really not related to the topic here. Now we have hundreds of threads to read through and at least 1/3 of them are useless and wasting our time to scroll through.
There WILL NOT be VERIZON iphone 4 announcement tomorrow period!!
There WILL NOT be VERIZON iphone 4 announcement tomorrow period!!
There's no way you've dropped 20 "business calls" and are still using the phone. Any normal sane person would have returned it long ago.
Well, my iPhone 4 is now bricked. I've never had a bricked iPhone before, but this is now stuck in restore mode, and iTunes keeps error'ing out the restore.
This update just makes me realize how bad AT&T is at my house. 4.0 with no bumper 4-5 bars unless I hold it wrong. 4.0.1 with bumper no matter what doesn't go above 3.
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4.01 fixed my iPhone. Death grip before I would drop calls at around 45 seconds. Held a call for 4 minutes and iPhone never dropped lower than 2 bars and never lost call.
Thanks Apple!
4.01 fixed my iPhone. Death grip before I would drop calls at around 45 seconds. Held a call for 4 minutes and iPhone never dropped lower than 2 bars and never lost call.
Thanks Apple!
This is the 3rd time i am trying to upgrade to 4.0.1. The 2 first times i had error messages and the third time it was so bad that my iPhone was totally erased and i was asked to do a full restore...
Great update...so far...lets see if it gets worse.
Great update...so far...lets see if it gets worse.
Bloody weather is preventing a download, every time it starts to rain heavily outside my ADSL drops!
Just noticed on photos it gives you the option to view photos, videos or both as well. Little minor thing and haven't seen it there before
I love all the replies complaining how it now shows less bars.
All this nonsense regarding bars must've started some time ago when a brilliant marketing person figured that if the phone was programmed to show 5 bars all the time, people would think the service was better. People compared that phone to other phones, even phones on other carriers, and came to the conclusion that their phone must be better because it had more bars. The saying goes one bad apple spoils the bushel, and now every phone on the market has the fudged bar system that shows 50% of signal range in that one bar. Even Android handsets do this, if you don't believe me check out the Anandtech article released today. The problem for Apple is that people now use these bars to compare different phones and different phones on different carriers. Unfortunately for them, this antenna issue has brought this system out in the open, and many seem to think that this issue is Apple only.
Apple has changed the fudged system with this update to have a more linear mapping to the bars so that each bar is roughly equal to 20% of the range of acceptable signal strength. Now ignorant people are flaming them because their phone has less bars that it used to and they think that that is bad. Anandtech showed that data and voice works just fine all the way from the best-case signal at -51 dBm all the way down to worst-case -121dBm. The only thing that a user can learn from looking at the bars on their phone is how close their phone is to losing a signal. The TWiT from two weeks ago with Jerry Pournelle and Spencer from antennasys really explained this well. Jerry even went as far to say that bars should be removed and be replaced with a
for having a signal and a for not, as digital as it relates to cell phones is very binary; it either works or it doesn't.
It seems most tech people follow the spec sheet mentality. By this I mean that they assume that if the phone doesn't have a perfect signal it somehow is impaired. OMG MY PHONE DOESN'T show 5 bars!!1 There must be something wrong with it or the network! AT&T suxors! Wake up people, cell phones don't need to have a PERFECT signal in order to function properly! The 4.0 system may be fudged, but EVERY other phone uses a similar systme. The top 50% of the range of signal strength is all the same to the phone, why should it matter to the end user? Show them five bars, as the signal is just fine. Once it dips below 50% it tapers off, showing me that I am starting to get out of range of a tower, and may lose service. Thats fine. I know what it does, and it shows the end user that the signal is in the range in which the phone runs at 100%. Now with the 4.0.1 system many people will be confused for the sake of showing what the signal strength actually is because people were so outraged that Apple wasn't telling them EXACTLY what the signal strength is.
I feel bad for Apple that they had to do this, as now people ignorant of what bars really mean will think their phone is worse than it previously was, and they will think there is something wrong with their phone when they compare it to any of the other phones on the market that have this misleading system of bars. You can bet your bottom dollar no one else will switch to this more honest approach.
All this nonsense regarding bars must've started some time ago when a brilliant marketing person figured that if the phone was programmed to show 5 bars all the time, people would think the service was better. People compared that phone to other phones, even phones on other carriers, and came to the conclusion that their phone must be better because it had more bars. The saying goes one bad apple spoils the bushel, and now every phone on the market has the fudged bar system that shows 50% of signal range in that one bar. Even Android handsets do this, if you don't believe me check out the Anandtech article released today. The problem for Apple is that people now use these bars to compare different phones and different phones on different carriers. Unfortunately for them, this antenna issue has brought this system out in the open, and many seem to think that this issue is Apple only.
Apple has changed the fudged system with this update to have a more linear mapping to the bars so that each bar is roughly equal to 20% of the range of acceptable signal strength. Now ignorant people are flaming them because their phone has less bars that it used to and they think that that is bad. Anandtech showed that data and voice works just fine all the way from the best-case signal at -51 dBm all the way down to worst-case -121dBm. The only thing that a user can learn from looking at the bars on their phone is how close their phone is to losing a signal. The TWiT from two weeks ago with Jerry Pournelle and Spencer from antennasys really explained this well. Jerry even went as far to say that bars should be removed and be replaced with a
for having a signal and a for not, as digital as it relates to cell phones is very binary; it either works or it doesn't.It seems most tech people follow the spec sheet mentality. By this I mean that they assume that if the phone doesn't have a perfect signal it somehow is impaired. OMG MY PHONE DOESN'T show 5 bars!!1 There must be something wrong with it or the network! AT&T suxors! Wake up people, cell phones don't need to have a PERFECT signal in order to function properly! The 4.0 system may be fudged, but EVERY other phone uses a similar systme. The top 50% of the range of signal strength is all the same to the phone, why should it matter to the end user? Show them five bars, as the signal is just fine. Once it dips below 50% it tapers off, showing me that I am starting to get out of range of a tower, and may lose service. Thats fine. I know what it does, and it shows the end user that the signal is in the range in which the phone runs at 100%. Now with the 4.0.1 system many people will be confused for the sake of showing what the signal strength actually is because people were so outraged that Apple wasn't telling them EXACTLY what the signal strength is.
I feel bad for Apple that they had to do this, as now people ignorant of what bars really mean will think their phone is worse than it previously was, and they will think there is something wrong with their phone when they compare it to any of the other phones on the market that have this misleading system of bars. You can bet your bottom dollar no one else will switch to this more honest approach.
No. Apple released a very straight forward statement saying that, while investigating the reports of signal loss, they discovered that they had a significant bug in their signal calculation software, and told people to expect a fix for *that* shortly. This is that fix.
Apple has *not* said it was only a software issue. Nor have they said the aren't going to fix any hardware issue, like some people seem to think.
I wouldn't have made it through the 9 months I owned a MyTouch 3G if I couldn't of rooted it and ran CyanogenMod on it. CyanogenMod is the only thing I miss about Android. But when that happens, I look at my iPhone's display and that feeling goes away immediately.
Huh? I've installed the update but I've still got seams on the side of my iPhone
HAHAHA! honestly, I'm not sure if it would be a bad thing for apple to lose some customers over this. Just look at the drama on these forums, it has been taken to a PC level.
Crud same thing with me. Any suggestion on what to do next?
I'm making sure iTunes is up to date now
I'll restart my Mac
And cross my fingers the 4th time works
Update only...
It will ask you if you have anything purchased that you want to transfer. If it does you say yes and it transfers it. Then syncs it (all your personal data, game stats etc). And installs a new OS. Nothing will be deleted. All your personal info will remain... Photos, mails, sms etc.
I've installed the update on my iPhone 4:
I can see Better reception, not only bigger bars but more bars (more signal), that might be just a cosmetic fix but the result is I made several calls with only one bar of reception on the worst place to make calls in my house and had NO DROPS, no decreased upload or download speeds on data transfer.... So far it seems to be working fine!
Same here at first blush. I was in my grocery store tonight where I've never had reception on iPhone 2g or 4. It was always frustrating to have to call my wife and never having connectivity.
After the update I looked down and had 3 bars, plus I was able to make a call where I've never been able to connect.
Spooky. Or maybe ATT put up a tower last night.
Aside from the bars I have heavy distortions in my photo application with 4.0.1! I made two screenshots and now it looks like this:
The same after another reboot of my iPhone 3G… Anyway, the photos are not affected and I can send them via email.
Please, Apple, don't screw up our devices because of this poor media hype!
The same after another reboot of my iPhone 3G… Anyway, the photos are not affected and I can send them via email.
Please, Apple, don't screw up our devices because of this poor media hype!
You only proved my point...
She may have bought it a couple months ago, but I can still buy an imac 8,1. Are you getting the analogy? The 3G, though still used by some, is OLD. Its Q4, 2008, not Q1 or Q2 2010. Since the iP4 is the newest hardware, then yes, it is supported. Thus my previous comments; Apple only SUPPORTS 1 (READ THAT, ONE) MODEL PRIOR. New iP4 = 3G unsupported. Hence, this is why the 3GS is the new "cheap" phone. Therefore iP3G = Old. Is this hard to understand?
Sometimes I wonder...
There's nothing wrong with the poster trying to make the best of what equipment is available to him/her. Not only can it be a sensible decision depending on one's financial position but it would generate less waste for the environment. Let it go mate, and please stop with the condescending attitude