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Apple Again Bucks Trend With Sales Growth in Shrinking PC Market
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Toshiba currently builds Superior computers then apple. The reason apple gets away with its inflated price is the idea of running Mac OS being worth more.
Macs are decent PCs but I tend to stick with the KING of computers. ASUS. Their sells are not on that less but its in those computers wink wink.
Can you rephrase that sentence? I have no clue what you just said (I suspect you meant sales rather than sells... sells = verb, sales = plural noun).
And for some reason it is bugging me and I want to know what you meant, but I really can't parse your grammar there.
Should the first part be "Their sales are not on that much"? and what is in those computers and what has that got to do with their sales not being on that much?
As I said, I'm really completely confused by that sentence.
I really wish Android Spambots would keep to Android forums. 
Anyway, not unexpected. At least 5 of my immediate friends have switched from Windows to Mac after seeing my setup and how reliable and stable Mac's with OS X are.
Anyway, not unexpected. At least 5 of my immediate friends have switched from Windows to Mac after seeing my setup and how reliable and stable Mac's with OS X are.
The difference is that a $50K Lexus costs more than forty times more than a 13" MacBook Pro. This discussion was about whether Apple is limited by being "affordable". There are lots of people who _cannot_ buy the Lexus. But everyone who buys the $20K GM can easily buy a 13" MBP which costs just 6 percent of the GM.
Yes, there will always be people who decide to buy a cheaper computer. What I am saying is that there are very few people who _cannot_ buy a Macintosh, as is claimed so often. And those who decide to buy cheap, they should think about how you get the best value for your money: You buy something of quality, without any unneeded luxuries that just waste money, and then you look after it.
Blame my English professor...I do. And M$ Word
Asus produces 30% of consumer motherboards. Apple buys asus motherboards. Many apple PCs run ASUS hardware. So while ASUS doesn't sale the most completed PCs they get their product out their. And they currently have the best Completed PCs in terms of reliability.
Ok you keep bring up quality. You are aware that Apple does not Produce the highest quality computers. In fact apple of the top 8 producers is ranked forth behind Sony, (some of the more expensive PC.) Toshiba (they now use more solder then anyone else.) and the industry leader ASUS (They produce many of their own parts.)
When purchasing a MAC over any other PC you are not buying a better "Engine" because they get theirs from the same people. When you buy a mac you buy the ability to use MAC OS. That is the ONLY real difference between a mac and a "PC"(Windows based computer).
I do not own a mac Computer not because I can't afford it. Not because I wanted to buy cheap but rather I don't really like their only selling point MAC OS. I use my PC for gaming and I would have to use windows so i purchased a Windows PC rather then buying a mac just to install windows and completely ignore MAC OS. I was able to build my own PC and save money buy buying a PC.
Being a new "switcher" I can see why Apple continues to grow. My co-worker got me hooked, and I in turn, got my friend hooked.
The average buyer today is less tech-savvy. 10 years ago, soccer moms and hipsters didn't own laptops. Those who actually had email accounts or myspace pages would use the family desktop computer or a machine in a computer lab.
Today, your grandmother has a facebook page and a yahoo/hotmail/gmail account and probably has her own laptop.
Actually, Apple does skimp on components. They charge more for the same hardware that PC manufacturers use, and Macs are never at the bleeding edge of hardware tech (probably because their profit margins would disappear due to price pressures)[/quote]
More attractive? Maybe not anymore... Windows 7 has made pretty big strides in terms of UI. There isn't much wrong with Mac as a computing platform, but lets be honest here.... Mac's strength as a computing platform is *not* what is propping up their sales. PC's still do it cheaper and just as easily (if not easier) for 90% of the tasks a typical user undertakes.
Are you serious? Maybe you're new here? Apple fans are 2 steps shy of being brainwashed cult members and its no secret to anyone that Apple's hype/marketing department is probably the strongest weapon in their arsenal. They are very adept at pushing their products.
Really? I'd tell you about the pained expressions on one switcher's face I know after asking me (again) to salvage whatever data I could off of the 3rd hard drive that her macbook ate, but it is beside the point.
Are macs decent computers? Yes. Are people buying them en mass because it is 'cool'? Definitely.
This is exactly how I got into the Mac market.
After getting an iPhone 3G, when it came time for a new laptop, I decided to give Mac a go. I absolutely loved the hardware.
A few months ago, when it was time for a new desktop, iMac 27 inch was the machine of choice. I still prefer Windows 7 over Mac OS and Bootcamp/Win 7 is the first thing I install on new Mac hardware.
I like having both options available to me.
You are aware you just paid extra for only one think and that is MAC os. By placing windows on it you kind of defeat the purpose of buying a MAC. You wasted a lot of money in fact. Never buy a mac for hardware...Because they do not have the best.
ROFLMAO!
That's as funny as the RIM CEO defending the PlayBook by saying email "really isn't a core element."
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/...aybook-says-email-really-isnt-a-core-element/
Also, it's nice to know that us iOS users are unaffected by the latest Flash exploit for Android.
http://macdailynews.com/2011/04/12/..._campaign=Feed:+wordpress/xhfA+(MacDailyNews)
Not bad for not being the "best" because Windows and Android is better right?
Pretty much can be said about Windows fans, Android fans or RIM fans. I love it when someone throws out the brainwashing argument.
People I know switched to using Macs because they used the product and felt that it was easier to live with then Windows. Just last night my wife was telling me about how one of her co-wokers had bought a first generation iPad for their spouse. They loved it so much they ended up buying the second generation iPad. I guess they were brainwashed into buying the second iPad. User experience had nothing to do with it. The co-worker must have been lying about liking the product, they simply wanted to waste their hard earned money on another iPad because the Apple marketing machine told them to do so. Yes, advertising works thats why it exists. Present your product in an appealing way so that people will know about it, go check it out and possibily but it. There is a reason why Apple has a 14 day return/no stocking fee policy. Ever wondered why the Apple stores are always packed with people trying out the products before they buy it. It is more then wanting to own a "cool" product as you put it.
Are Macs perfect, NO. I switched over to using Macs in 2001 because I felt Apple offered me a better user experience then the alternative. Part of that user experience is how the computers are put together, not looking like some chimp did the work. The other part was how I could unbox he computer, plug it in and I was up and running in a matter of minutes, network setup and all. There are other parts of the user experience like the customer support and how seamless the hardware and software work together. Not to mention the included software at no extra cost. Best of all is not having to worry about the *possibility* of getting a virus or spyware. Notice how I used the word possibility.
And lest I forget, there is the added benefit of how Mac products hold there value over time.
Plenty of people buy Macs for the hardware. If I needed a laptop right now to run Windows and nothing else, then obviously I would have to check whether I am mentally capable of using Windows for any length of time without throwing the laptop out of the window, but once I've found the strength to do that, the 13" MBP or one of the MBAs are probably the least miserable way to run Windows.
Of course, if you are praying every day that your laptop breaks down because you have to use Windows, then a MacBook is not for you.
Actually, no. I'm not aware of that.
I really wish Android Spambots would keep to Android forums.
Windows spambots included as well.
Even the reviewers have acknowledge that Windows runs better on Mac hardware due to the tight coupling between the hardware and the device drivers that Apple includes.
ROFLMAO!
That's as funny as the RIM CEO defending the PlayBook by saying email "really isn't a core element."
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/...aybook-says-email-really-isnt-a-core-element/
Also, it's nice to know that us iOS users are unaffected by the latest Flash exploit for Android.
http://macdailynews.com/2011/04/12/..._campaign=Feed:+wordpress/xhfA+(MacDailyNews)
Not bad for not being the "best" because Windows and Android is better right?
You are comparing software to hardware. Simply put in terms off hardware mac does not have the best. Neither Google or Microsoft produce their own computers. I think you missed the comment completely
ROFLMAO!
That's as funny as the RIM CEO defending the PlayBook by saying email "really isn't a core element."
http://www.loopinsight.com/2011/04/...aybook-says-email-really-isnt-a-core-element/
Also, it's nice to know that us iOS users are unaffected by the latest Flash exploit for Android.
http://macdailynews.com/2011/04/12/..._campaign=Feed:+wordpress/xhfA+(MacDailyNews)
Not bad for not being the "best" because Windows and Android is better right?
Alongside today's release of iOS 4.3.2, Apple has also pushed out Safari 5.0.5 and Security Update 2011-002 for Mac OS X. The updates are available through Apple's download pages and through Software Update.
Doesn't mean facts are not alowed here. I simply stated facts. Apple does not have the best hardware you can not say they do. They make great computers but there are always companies who will make a better product then them. Unlike software witch is a mater of Opinion hardware is a mater of Fact and Fact is apple does not have the best hardware. They purchase their hardware from the same places as everyone else.
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Your statement makes no since. Windows is a hardware dependent OS. If you have the hardware it will run. Buying a 400 dollar Hp is different then running it on a 800 ASUS. You are use to using low grade windows computers. I use Both macs and Highgrade windows based PCs (ASUS & Sony) I see no issues with any of them. Some one game me an HP and it was a piece of ****. I am using an ASUS board right now and I am in LOVE with it.
Not surprising really. Anyone I know who was 'curious' about switching changes their mind once they have bought into the eco system with an iDevice and get used to the combination of UI, solid build and design.
I kind of went the other way 5 months ago, being a Mac user for the last 15 years as a student and then professionally in the graphic design field I decided to give one of these PCs a try..
As I couldn't make up my mind whether to replace my iBook G3 with a Macbook/Macbook Pro/iPad, I decided to go for a cheap and cheerful HP G62 dual core laptop as a 'stop gap' solution for £350 just to see if PCs are as bad as some people make them out to be.
I have to say my experience in the last 5 months has been ok-ish, yes it is mildly annoying that the constant update requests, long bootups, occasional crash happy nature (and fragile) of Windows 7 has made me think about chucking the laptop out of the window (no pun intended). The fan can get bloody loud and gets quite hot and battery life is poor. But I accept that you get what you pay for and I guess that encapsulates the experience of the average Windows user who is willing to pay a substandard price for a substandard user experience.
As a result, my experience will not make me want to buy any PC products again. I've bought it just for browsing the web and syncing the iPod Touch to iTunes (which is doesn't seem to work aswell in Win7), somehow I can't run iTunes 10.2 which is another bloody annoying issue..
I cannot wait to get the new SandyBridge iMac later this year and maybe iPad 3 next year so until then will put up with my substandard PC product to gather dust / or smash it with a hammer / simply get rid of on eBay.
It will be Macs only for me going forward
I'm definately not a PC And Windows 7 sucks compared to OSX. Actually bag of sh_te is a better description!
I kind of went the other way 5 months ago, being a Mac user for the last 15 years as a student and then professionally in the graphic design field I decided to give one of these PCs a try..
As I couldn't make up my mind whether to replace my iBook G3 with a Macbook/Macbook Pro/iPad, I decided to go for a cheap and cheerful HP G62 dual core laptop as a 'stop gap' solution for £350 just to see if PCs are as bad as some people make them out to be.
I have to say my experience in the last 5 months has been ok-ish, yes it is mildly annoying that the constant update requests, long bootups, occasional crash happy nature (and fragile) of Windows 7 has made me think about chucking the laptop out of the window (no pun intended). The fan can get bloody loud and gets quite hot and battery life is poor. But I accept that you get what you pay for and I guess that encapsulates the experience of the average Windows user who is willing to pay a substandard price for a substandard user experience.
As a result, my experience will not make me want to buy any PC products again. I've bought it just for browsing the web and syncing the iPod Touch to iTunes (which is doesn't seem to work aswell in Win7), somehow I can't run iTunes 10.2 which is another bloody annoying issue..
I cannot wait to get the new SandyBridge iMac later this year and maybe iPad 3 next year so until then will put up with my substandard PC product to gather dust / or smash it with a hammer / simply get rid of on eBay.
It will be Macs only for me going forward
I'm definately not a PC
And Windows 7 sucks compared to OSX. Actually bag of sh_te is a better description!
Not surprising really. Anyone I know who was 'curious' about switching changes their mind once they have bought into the eco system with an iDevice and get used to the combination of UI, solid build and design.
I kind of went the other way 5 months ago, being a Mac user for the last 15 years as a student and then professionally in the graphic design field I decided to give one of these PCs a try..
As I couldn't make up my mind whether to replace my iBook G3 with a Macbook/Macbook Pro/iPad, I decided to go for a cheap and cheerful HP G62 dual core laptop as a 'stop gap' solution for £350 just to see if PCs are as bad as some people make them out to be.
I have to say my experience in the last 5 months has been ok-ish, yes it is mildly annoying that the constant update requests, long bootups, occasional crash happy nature (and fragile) of Windows 7 has made me think about chucking the laptop out of the window (no pun intended). The fan can get bloody loud and gets quite hot and battery life is poor. But I accept that you get what you pay for and I guess that encapsulates the experience of the average Windows user who is willing to pay a substandard price for a substandard user experience.
As a result, my experience will not make me want to buy any PC products again. I've bought it just for browsing the web and syncing the iPod Touch to iTunes (which is doesn't seem to work aswell in Win7), somehow I can't run iTunes 10.2 which is another bloody annoying issue..
I cannot wait to get the new SandyBridge iMac later this year and maybe iPad 3 next year so until then will put up with my substandard PC product to gather dust / or smash it with a hammer / simply get rid of on eBay.
It will be Macs only for me going forward
I'm definately not a PC
Switched to Mac in 2009 (Linux in 2007) after using Windows for almost two decades. Couldn't be happier.
I always wonder what people do to their Windows 7 installs to make them crash.
On my desktop: I've put my windows 7 install through a lot but had to reinstall it around two months ago when my tweaking of WMP went awry. No biggie, boots up REALLY quickly thanks to 2 SSDs in RAID0. Nothing strange to report... also uses an ASUS motherboard, which has.. been through a lot to say the least. All of it was my own doing (overclocking-related...), but it hangs in there.
My laptop: ASUS U43J, revision X. Best laptop I've ever owned. 10 hour battery life (with wifi on), NVidia 310m, Optimus technology, 4 GB ram, windows 7 64 bit. Absolutely a wonderful experience.
I wonder if Apple would ever consider using ASUS motherboards.
On my desktop: I've put my windows 7 install through a lot but had to reinstall it around two months ago when my tweaking of WMP went awry. No biggie, boots up REALLY quickly thanks to 2 SSDs in RAID0. Nothing strange to report... also uses an ASUS motherboard, which has.. been through a lot to say the least. All of it was my own doing (overclocking-related...), but it hangs in there.
My laptop: ASUS U43J, revision X. Best laptop I've ever owned. 10 hour battery life (with wifi on), NVidia 310m, Optimus technology, 4 GB ram, windows 7 64 bit. Absolutely a wonderful experience.
I wonder if Apple would ever consider using ASUS motherboards.