The EU should have enforced this globally. We deserve better,
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Apple Again Changes EU App Store Rules and Fees to Comply With DMA
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ketchup is an item for sale in the store. so analogy still doesn't quite work. if anything, it should be "Target isn't part of the de facto duopoly for department stores"
there's many stores available on android. developers just prefer to deploy to play store.
If they keep this up, the EU is going to force them to allow outright sideloading. Malicious compliance is going to destroy the App Store business.
if you didn't research the product which would have told you that you can't do what you want on a device that you're going to pay for, that's not Apple's fault.
I don't want more ads on my TV, so I'm not going to buy a Samsung Smart TV for example.
...only for a limited set of "reader apps".
They made up new restrictions on the spot for game streaming apps, when they feared they might impact their lucrative gaming commissions.
Also, apps are prohibited from unlocking functionality through external sales according to Apple's developer terms.
But there aren't.
And the European Union would be free to designate them as non-gatekeepers.
The law allows for such flexibility to account for different market conditions.
Classic. Users who aren't good with technology are "stupid."
A few reasons: 1) it's Apple's platform, and intellectual property that allows the software to function 2) Apple made the rules incredibly clear 3) an open platform exists, with 72% marketshare in the EU, for users who feel strongly about being able to install software from anywhere 4) the government shouldn't be interfering in the free market without very good reason and "I want to sideload but not use Android" isn't a good reason.
...and so do many consumers.
Which is why you can get a "closed" experience on Android and the Play Store.
Cause all of the important commercial apps are there.
The developer have zero requirement to stay in the store for you. It’s their freedom to have the option to move to alternate stores.
If they leave it’s apples fault because they didn’t provide a good enough service to stay.
Forcing them to stay is a Wilde thing to want.
Agree. As you may have guessed from my signature, I don't subscribe to the idea that mobile app/digital content transactions are very apt comparisons to ketchup. 😉 (...but that's what the cocky Jeremy posited as an analogy)
Apple pulled out of Russia in 2022 because it was too onerous to do business there. Google pulled out of China because it decided it would not comply with the CCP’s regulations.
Apple should seriously consider pulling out of the EU. Let them wallow in a single source mobile operating system with no competition at all. Let them tell their citizens they have a single choice, Android or nothing.
Apple should seriously consider pulling out of the EU. Let them wallow in a single source mobile operating system with no competition at all. Let them tell their citizens they have a single choice, Android or nothing.
Developers have great incentive to stay in Apple's store though (causes it's bundled with iOS and is the biggest store).
Provided that that store offers competitive fees, commission rates and terms and conditions.
Has not existed for over a decade. You have full access to a vertically integrated system. This hasn’t changed
Warning signs are fine if they are neutral.
You're underestimating Tim Apple's lust for
And their appetite for lucrative hardware sales.
They're making many billions in revenue and earnings in the EU. And they will continued to do that - even when eventually complying with the DMA in good faith.
Apple are not in the business of sticking the fingers to EU's customers and forgo all the money that can be made from them.
Well, you are the consumer, and vote with your wallet, when developers make products that are inferior to you.
The the EU actually wrote straightforward rules instead of vague language and then enforced and clarified through regulatory and the courts, this wouldn't need to happen.
I've always been able to buy Fornite vbucks outside of the iOS. Literally bought vbucks from Target with 5% off because I had a Target debit card.
How do you make a “third party app stores may scam you” warning neutral? You can’t.
You have to say something like “Apple takes no responsibility for the content of apps on the third-party store.” Hardly a warning or discouragement at all.
I'd rather say the publicity would have been too negative.
That said, they're still making good money from parallel imports.
...whereas Apple decided to comply with the CCP.
Which is also why "iCloud in China mainland is operated by GCBD (AIPO Cloud (Guizhou) Technology Co. Ltd)". Not Apple.
that's not really a platform owner issue. even amazon was able to deploy an android fire tablet with zero play store installed.
👉 Exactly as it should be.
And you teach your mother in law to not buy anything from anyone else than Apple on her iPhone. Very simple.
Doesn't she use Uber or some kind of transit app though?
exactly my point. I bought my iPhone enjoying the walled garden. I bought apps knowing that these apps are in the walled garden. I expect to continue paying for these apps via App Store. but because of the law, this changes. there was data from when I began investing into iOS and App Store that what I've been doing can suddenly change. apple required developers to stay in store as long as you sell native apps
meanwhile you've always had the data that you can't install or pay for digital goods/services outside the app.
I turned off signatures so I don't really see that. oh well.
They did! You can read the DMA requirement.
1: read the DMA requirements DMA_100109 from a month ago
2:CASE AT.40437 from 2024
Or, let her and others who prefer it have a closed ecosystem and those who care can use Android with 72% share and everyone gets what works for them.
But no, strengstens verboten. Big Brother EU knows better. What Apple and its customers want is wrong because nerds want to have their cake and eat it too, and Brussels is ideologically opposed to it.