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How does the math work if Apple releases a new phone in Sept. 2018? We will have to make two extra payments to get caught up, so is it still worth it financially rather than buying outright and reselling? (I understand that reselling is more inconvenient)

I am upgrading from (Product)Red iPhone 7 Plus. As long as you managed to pay first 6 month, you can pay the next 6 month worth of payment upfront and go for an upgrade. This is my second upgrade of the year, since I joined iUP last Sept.
 
Just say you will trade in. people change minds. My email confirmation from the 8 says that if I do not bring my phone for trade at the time of pickup, payments will continue.

I think you're exactly right here, thanks!!!

From the Upgrade Program terms & conditions page (https://www.apple.com/legal/sales-support/iphoneupgrade_us/):

Prompt Return of Financed iPhone. If you exercise your Upgrade Option and do not return your original Financed iPhone as directed by Apple within 14 days, your original Installment Loan will be reinstated and you will be responsible for any missed and/or remaining installment payments, as well as any installment payments under your New Installment Loan.
 
I'm already an Upgrade Program member -- used it last September to get my wife's iPhone 7. Is there a way (via app or website) to get pre approved for a SECOND phone on the UP? This one would be an iPhone X for me, not trading her phone in towards it.

The Apple Store app (thus far) doesn't seem to give me an option to NOT trade in the existing phone.

You would just start a new IUP which is a new loan. There isn’t an option to have more than one phone on a single IUP plan. If that makes sense.
 
I think all the posts saying that the IUP is for people who can’t afford the phones are people with bad credit that can only by outright. IUP is a no brainer. Zero % and only 12 payments (if u upgrade yearly). Why the heck would u do it any other way??
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Says the guy who has been checking the app all morning.
Yup, but that's the OCD part of wanting to knock it off the list before I get up at 3AM on the 27th. No part of me thinks I have advantage.
 
I'm already an Upgrade Program member -- used it last September to get my wife's iPhone 7. Is there a way (via app or website) to get pre approved for a SECOND phone on the UP? This one would be an iPhone X for me, not trading her phone in towards it.

The Apple Store app (thus far) doesn't seem to give me an option to NOT trade in the existing phone.
No, You have to pay off the first one in full and then apply for a brand new loan.
 
I just got off the phone with apple support as well, and she was told there's an update to the apple store app that hasn't happened yet...I believe she is referring to an update of iPhone upgrade program refresh, not the app itself...
 
Doesn't look like this program is live yet... anybody? I still get the "starting 10.23" message in the apple store app on my phone, and can't accomplish whatever this pre-pre-order process is yet.
 
Just a few general comments. It appears there are people in this thread that are thinking that if they do the pre-work, presumably today, and are the first in that they will get a higher priority Friday. It doesn't work that way. You certainly will skip the credit check step though, but that has nothing to do with how quick you do the pre-check today, tomorrow or even Thursday.

Still nothing. I am guessing Apple will open it up when they open up - 10:00 PST/1:00 EST.

Not saying I disagree with you, but unless you work for Apple and have intimate knowledge of the processes in place... I wouldn’t assume a thing. First at everything, like most things in life... is best.
 
I don't *need to*, but it's a 0% interest loan with effectively a guaranteed "buy back" after a year for half the original purchase price of the phone (upgrade after a year / restart the loan).
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Leasing makes a lot of sense for a quickly depreciating purchase. An iPhone is *not* an investment. Not to mention it's 0% for two years with an option to upgrade after 1 year (effectively a guaranteed buy-back at half the original purchase price).

An iPhone is not a quickly depreciating purchase in relation to similar types of items. You should be able to get well more than half of what you paid 1 year in. The iphone 7 came out at 750 for the 128GB, and is now 550 for the same model but used 1 year later. (Mind you this doesn't account for tax on the original price)

If you want to lease go ahead and lease, but its not for financial reasons if you are upgrading every year.
 
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I dont see it that way (and Im not an IUP person).

My understanding is that IUP requires a credit check us carrier/cash people do not have, which put them behind the pack the last year or 2 in getting in line to checkout.


Determining eligibility early would merely put them on the same footing with us hitting chekout the way I understand it.

I think what you have stated is true except I do think it gives a small leg up even during the ordering process on 10.27. I think this actually adds the phones to the checkout cart so on 10.27 all the IUP customer has to do is Apple Pay their cart and bam, ordered. I’m sure some data needs to be entered even for a cash customer that could put them further back in the line for wave 1 shipments. I could be totally wrong however.
 
This thread is hilarious. 0% interest is the ONLY time you should make monthly payments on this type of purchase, be it from IUP, carrier financing, or 0% interest CC offer.

The only place where is makes more sense to go a different route is if you have a Rewards CC where you get points/miles towards a benefit, such as hotel stays or frequent flyer miles. Then use that card, collect your points, pay off the card before the end of the month (if there’s interest), and then thank Apple for contributing to your next free plane ticket/hotel stay.

It’s a shame that people shame others for their financial decisions, but then give bad information on top of it. Just stop and mind your own wallets!
 
I think what you have stated is true except I do think it gives a small leg up even during the ordering process on 10.27. I think this actually adds the phones to the checkout cart so on 10.27 all the IUP customer has to do is Apple Pay their cart and bam, ordered. I’m sure some data needs to be entered even for a cash customer that could put them further back in the line for wave 1 shipments. I could be totally wrong however.
That makes sense. I saw an interview with the retail head (Ahernt?) who said that as soon as they open the preorders for iPhones, those with the purchase all queued up only have to tap one button at midnight to make their purchase. Being able to have your IUP purchase to that one-tap state will certainly level the playing field. I was stressing about having to go through the IUP process at 3AM as all the Xs disappear and even considered buying one outright simultaneously in case the IUP is a clusterfu@k.
 
I think the meaning of the IUP is lost on some people.

Its called the "iPhone Upgrade Program" - not the "BAIWISYCKIFP" (Buy An iPhone With Installments So You Can Keep It Forever Program).
Of course you can choose to pay it off and keep it but the point behind the IUP is "UPGRADE", and to upgrade annually.
Effectively for half the price of buying a new phone each year, you get to trade up to the latest model via Apple, with Apple Care added.
At least that is how I approach it.
I don't look at phones as 'investments' or try to scenario-ize how much I'm going to be able to get for it in a year if I want to upgrade, along with the chore trying to sell it and then the hassle of swapping phones over etc.

Paying a monthly fee (after the upfront lump sum for taxes) for the knowledge I can upgrade easily, the assurance of Apple Care and the advantage of not having to deal with the foibles of a phone carrier to get the device is totally worth it to me.
 
This thread is hilarious. 0% interest is the ONLY time you should make monthly payments on this type of purchase, be it from IUP, carrier financing, or 0% interest CC offer.

Such statements are almost always false. There are many kinds of situations and people, and what makes the most sense for them...is that choice that is best for them.
 
I would like to know the same. How is this process working for T-mobile customers: If you are currently on the Apple Upgrade programs and eligible to upgrade.... can you fill out the paper work on 10/23 or you will need to do it at the store.

I just had a chat with and Apple sales person on their site, and if you are already part of the program it is no different. If you aren't part of it, that's the "in store enrollments only" part.
 
If you need a loan to get a phone, maybe you shouldn't be getting it in the first place. I know I sound like an elitist or something, but still....
[doublepost=1508775372][/doublepost]Maybe? But most people have never bought their phones upfront. They would get them through their carrier and then pay indirectly through their coverage each month. With the iPhone upgrade program, there is no interest. So even if you have the money, you're better off with the payments as you don't have to pay for it upfront. After inflation and interest if you have your own money in an interest bearing account, you end up ahead. I don't really see a downside to this.
 
I think the meaning of the IUP is lost on some people.

Its called the "iPhone Upgrade Program" - not the "BAIWISYCKIFP" (Buy An iPhone With Installments So You Can Keep It Forever Program).
Of course you can choose to pay it off and keep it but the point behind the IUP is "UPGRADE", and to upgrade annually.
Effectively for half the price of buying a new phone each year, you get to trade up to the latest model via Apple, with Apple Care added.
At least that is how I approach it.
I don't look at phones as 'investments' or try to scenario-ize how much I'm going to be able to get for it in a year if I want to upgrade, along with the chore trying to sell it and then the hassle of swapping phones over etc.

Paying a monthly fee (after the upfront lump sum for taxes) for the knowledge I can upgrade easily, the assurance of Apple Care and the advantage of not having to deal with the foibles of a phone carrier to get the device is totally worth it to me.

yeah that sorta sounds like my own approach, others seem to have different approaches
 
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I’m with ya. Nothing to do with guaranteeing or locking in a phone for launch day. But everything to do with just making pre-ordering a little quicker 3am Friday.

Exactly what I am doing. The approval of loan/bank and carrier at 2 AM CDT in midwest can sometimes not go for hours good to have this all done and just the final hit that button the app. And then we see how the wheel rolls for us LOL
 
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