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I'm glad you think so. I hated having to poke the screen as I used two hands to stabilise the phone and I found it much harder. As did everyone that I've spoken to... they all want a dedicated button.

At least it works for you, nice one.

I'm not saying a dedicated button wouldn't be useful but did you know that the camera app shoots upon release of the onscreen button? That is a great feature to minimize shaking the phone at the crucial moment. No-one should be poking at the screen.
 
Two things. I think iOS piracy is more prevalent than you think. But also, release an app with small ad and make much more. Just look at Rovio and Angry Birds. 30 million Android downloads, ALL with paid ads. Or 12 million 99 cent iOS apps? I think the 30 million is much more profitable in the long run.
Without knowing the advertising rate for Rovio, I don't think you can make that claim.
 
Multitasking, you saying I'm gonna have to manually close it each time?

Simple - when the camera app is active, it takes control. when it is not active (stored state) it releases control.

For the most part - the iPhone isn't really multitasking except for a handful of APIs. Apps get "frozen" and then quick launch

So the only "real" conflict is that by remapping volume controls - you would lose control over music which is most likely not being played while taking photos anyway.
 
I think I'm just going to hang on to my old version with the volume snap enabled. Not sure how long I can look at that badge without updating though....

Annoys me too. I have a number of apps that have upgraded to downgraded functionality. There really should be an ignore update button that removes the badge icon.
 
So, they knew it was wrong right from the beginning, they did it anyway, they got told off, then they did it again more quietly, and they get told off again.

A four year old learns faster than that.

There are many adults walking around whose social/emotional development is equivalent to the average 3 year old. It just gets different labels because it's not quite as cute. And you shouldn't have to look too far in your life to find them. So don't be too surprised.
 
Without knowing the advertising rate for Rovio, I don't think you can make that claim.

I said I think, not 100% positive. I don't know much about ad rates, I just know that if 30 million people (free w/ads) have your app vs 12 million people (paid), I think the 30 million people would be more profitable.
 
It says in the article that it was $1.99. $1.39*10,000 = $13,900!

Now you know why Lisa Bettany, one of the app's developers and photographer, was able to move from Canada down to one of the most expensive cities to live. Not only that, but to an apartment with this view:

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Yes, that's right from the window in her apartment.
 
I just bought Camera+ last night after reading some reviews, plus it was onsale for .99. I tried the remap and it didn't work for me, is this because it's a new version?
 
Consider for a moment why cameras have a physical button rather than requiring you to tap the viewfinder.

Consider you don't have to tap the viewfinder but rather press the vf, aim your shot, then release your finger.

Not that difficult.
 
Consider you don't have to tap the viewfinder but rather press the vf, aim your shot, then release your finger.

Not that difficult.

you're right, it's not that difficult. I understand complaints, but really? If you don't like it, switch to android. Apple clearly isn't in the game of allowing users to do whatever they want to do with their phones. It's been this way for 3.5 years, it ain't gonna change. Switch to android, I did.
 
Simple - when the camera app is active, it takes control. when it is not active (stored state) it releases control.

For the most part - the iPhone isn't really multitasking except for a handful of APIs. Apps get "frozen" and then quick launch

So the only "real" conflict is that by remapping volume controls - you would lose control over music which is most likely not being played while taking photos anyway.

For this one app maybe, when you add in the other thousands of apps that could take advantage of this it's not so clear cut.
 
It might be that they felt setting a precedent like this of allowing a developer to break this rule would be a bad thing.

Sure, this feature is nice, but its not essential. I tried it and it wasn't that great, I mean the button is too hard to press and you still get camera shake when you try to take pictures. I don't think the advantages are as clear-cut as they are being made out to be.

Just imagine if every developer could remap buttons as they saw fit, then submit their apps, have them either approved, or have them rejected then make a big stink about how the Camera+ dev is getting special treatment. It would be a PR problem on top of all the existing PR problems Apple seems to have re: the app store.

Plus, it is a non-issue because you can always Jailbreak your device if you are so dead-set on non-stock features like this (and the jailbreak solution is even better implemented). This is EXACTLY the type of thing that jailbreaking is for. And lately, Apple seems to care less and less about jailbreakers.
 
Rules are there for a reason. Apple doesn't want to make the volume button do two things because then more app developers would want to use various buttons of the iPhone to do different things in their app rather than all touchscreen.

It would become a mess.

I believe maybe Apple will include a shutter button on the new iPhones once they find that the camera is getting more advance to be more of a stand alone camera for most people.

If you want the updated Camera+ app but loved how useful the volumesnap was, here are ways to still take those portrait photos of yourself without having your finger searching for the onscreen camera button.

- Use the timer feature, press the onscreen camera button and you will have 5 seconds to adjust the camera on yourself and just wait for the photo to be taken.

- Hold the onscreen camera button, turn the iphone camera on you and release the button. (The onscreen button takes the photo once you release the button not when you press it).

- Leave a review to the app asking the developer to add the feature of having the whole screen as a camera button. (That way you don't have to search for the button and just press anywhere on the screen).

Those who are staying with the old version of Camera+ just because of the volumesnap, well here are you solutions for not needing the volumesnap as much.

Get the updated app and make the money you spent on this app more worth it with the extra features and improvements that the app has now.

Don't forget even more updates to come. They will be adding stability, speed, and feature updates in the near future so don't stay behind because of one feature that is not necessarily needed.

Just use my tips which would come out with the same results.
 
Yeah....

But there's nothing "new" about this. Increasingly blinded?? Apple, since the very early days, has ALWAYS been about how Steve Jobs envisions a product should look and function. Remember the pain in the butt it was for anyone to work on an original Macintosh or SE? You had to have the special "Apple cracker" tool -- a super long torx driver that could reach WAY down into recessed holes to access the bolts that held it together. It served no useful purpose to sink the bolts way down in the case like that. It was simply an Apple "design decision" because Steve #1, thought it looked ugly when you could see any screws or fasteners that held a product together, and #2, because Apple wanted to discourage people from opening up or servicing their products themselves.

Apple only makes a change when APPLE deems it worth doing. It just so happens Apple, S. Jobs and assistants are actually pretty darn good at coming up with designs that beat out the competition and ARE pretty nice, overall. So their formula consistently works, giving the consumer products they want to buy. But that doesn't mean they don't screw up now and then! I think Apple makes great stuff, but it could be even BETTER if they would start listening to customers more closely than they do.

The one-button mouse? Simply a bad idea they clung to for over a decade, because they'd rather do what Jobs preferred than what the majority of the marketplace asked for. (Oh well ... look at all the revenue Apple gave away to companies like Logitech or Microsoft with that arrogance? Everyone I knew with a Mac was buying a 3rd. party replacement mouse, for YEARS.)


Apple, you listening to this?? It makes sense for the shutter button to be one of the volume buttons. It makes for a more stable photo when shooting. just because you tits didnt incorporate this feature into the phone in the first place doesnt mean you should penalise other developers who come with a solution to a rather annoying problem that is having the shutter function on the screen.

Just goes to show that Apple couldnt give a fat rats a$$ about what its customers want or ironically give them something that 'just works'.

This bully boy tactic only shows that Apple are becoming increasingly blinded by dollar signs and long gone the days of satisfying customers and giving them the option on how they choose to use their devices!!!! Bah humbug
 
All Apple needs to do now is open up the HDR API and I bet taptaptap will add that functionality. A movie mode would make this take the place of the default Camera app on my iPhone.


Jailbreak your phone and you can with SnapTap.

thank you

What's so difficult about "tap the camera icon"? :rolleyes:

Consider for a moment why cameras have a physical button rather than requiring you to tap the viewfinder.

thank you
 
So if I already own Camera+, can I just buy the new one as a new separate app and keep the original? Or will an update remove the version I have and kill my "VolumeSnap" feature?

See this is why the AppStore/MacStore model sucks. Issues like this aren't a problem on the Mac when you download the app from the developers site. Just keep your old version and download the new one and keep them separate. The store model just overwrites what you have regardless.

I've already had two app "updates" that ruined the app. Luckily I had only updated the iPhone. Once I saw I didn't like the update, I deleted the app and re-synced the iPhone to the Mac and got the old version back on the iPhone.

I just don't like this whole being locked in and not being able to downgrade an app if I don't like the update.
 
There's nothing difficult, but for some people it's just uncomfortable if compared to the physical shutter.

There's far less force required (really, none), so can you please explain the mode where it's less comfortable?

There's a reason all cameras still have a button; and I know the iPhone is not a camera, but it is necessary IMO.

What is that reason again? Saying there is a reason isn't stating it. That's more or less an appeal to tradition, not an explanation. Very few cameras have a touch screen, so I don't think that's much of a statement. Buttons are cheap, touch screens are not.

I'm glad you think so. I hated having to poke the screen as I used two hands to stabilise the phone and I found it much harder. As did everyone that I've spoken to... they all want a dedicated button.

I don't think that argument is so clear-cut, I can see it going the other way. Pressing a physical button can have the same issues too, when you have one hand trying to generate the force the button requires, it can make the holding less stable. A lot of cell phone buttons are needlessly stiff, it probably has to be to prevent accidental presses, the only finger press buttons that might be stiffer are those on industrial machine controls, and those don't have to worry about camera shaking. Exerting that force while also trying to stabilize the phone can cause extra shaking too. No force is need with a touch screen "button".

That said, having it as a hidden easter egg that the unwashed masses are unlikely to uncover accidentally, would have been a good compromise, it's unfortunate to have this four month punishment for that fact.
 
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You're a "Customer" not "Customers". What you want isn't going to be what everyone else wants, and I can tell you right now, I don't care that much where the button is, even when I take photos. A physical button would be nice, but lets analyze that for a second.

Lets say the volume buttons are remapped, and I'm listening to Pandora in the background. I would have no way of changing the volume, without leaving the App, which would be extremely annoying, and would pretty much defeat the purpose of multi-tasking.

Lets say the Sleep/wake button is remapped. I would have no way of turning the phone off without waiting for it to do it itself, which is inconvenient.

Lets say the home button is remapped. Well, anyone who doesn't understand why this would be problematic has never used an iPhone.

No matter how you look at it, remapping the buttons is a problem and not a solution. Apple could add a programmable button that does nothing but let itself be mapped, I had a palm phone that had that, but remapping an existing button is bad news.

The option was buried as an easter egg. It's one thing to prevent this sort of behavior by default, but to ban someone from jumping through the hoops to unlock the functionality they clearly value more than the volume control is absurd.
 
Apple, you listening to this?? It makes sense for the shutter button to be one of the volume buttons. It makes for a more stable photo when shooting. just because you tits didnt incorporate this feature into the phone in the first place doesnt mean you should penalise other developers who come with a solution to a rather annoying problem that is having the shutter function on the screen.

Just goes to show that Apple couldnt give a fat rats a$$ about what its customers want or ironically give them something that 'just works'.

This bully boy tactic only shows that Apple are becoming increasingly blinded by dollar signs and long gone the days of satisfying customers and giving them the option on how they choose to use their devices!!!! Bah humbug

Haha! You are funny bro...but we all know apple is all about the user experience than any other company...so they do listen to us on somethings...They can't give you everything you want. IOS is still better overall experience than Android, Blackberry and WP7.

You can always Jailbreak to get whatever else you really need.
 
What is that reason again? Saying there is a reason isn't stating it. That's more or less an appeal to tradition, not an explanation. Very few cameras have a touch screen, so I don't think that's much of a statement. Buttons are cheap, touch screens are not.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Look, you obviously think that Apple can do no wrong, so good for you and Apple. I think they need a camera button on the iPhone. "Forum in difference of opinion shocker".
 
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

That is an appeal to tradition. Saying it "ain't" broke doesn't mean there isn't room for alternatives, it's up to the maker to decide what alternatives they want to provide, and up to the customer to decide if they like the maker's offerings. Blackberries were working fine before, so why fix it by offering a multitouch screen? RIM eventually relented and offered several new products that operate much like Apple's "fix", which Apple did that way despite an industry that didn't feel it was a "broken" problem.

Look, you obviously think that Apple can do no wrong, so good for you and Apple. I think they need a camera button on the iPhone. "Forum in difference of opinion shocker".

If you don't want to discuss my questions, fine, but don't pretend you're in it to have a real discussion, vs. hyperbolic trolling. You don't know me, nor apparently, my overall posting history, so reflexively painting someone as an Apple sycophant does you no good.
 
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