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Nah....

This argument has been around for quite a while. I first heard it when people started carrying cellphones and pagers.

In reality, the technology is only as "good" or "restraining" as you choose to apply it. Take Twitter, for example. Sure, there are people who become addicted to monitoring a bunch of people's pointless status messages, and sending out "updates" about things of little importance to anyone else. But that's not because Twitter is a useless concept, or was *designed* to waste people's time and get them addicted to reading and regurgitating nonsense. I recently saw an excellent use of Twitter by a recruiter. You subscribe to her Twitter feed, and then you're instantly notified if she has a new I.T. related job opening you might want to apply for. Other companies have used it to shoot out special "electronic coupon" offers for specific products or services you already use or have an interest in. (I like that idea better than the SMS messaging version of the same thing some of them have been doing. Why use up my limited number of monthly text messages for that stuff when a service like Twitter is free?)



Just a question, not trying to stir anything up. I have an iPhone and am checking my email and sports scores and lots of other things when I am out and about. But instead of more free, I am in a way more bound. Those things would still be there when I returned home. Sure, using my iPhone to look up numbers, map something, etc, is great when I am out, but for a lot of people it turns into an obsession with being connected. Look at the success of twitter, which IMHO is just ridiculous. Are we more free, or more enslaved by having the internet wherever we go.

The only two reasons I can see for having a 3G model is if you take it to a friend or family members house who does not have internet or wifi and you can't get on there but want to use it or likewise for traveling.

The other would be so my wife or I could use it in the car while driving somewhere.

In either instance an iPhone, though less fun on a smaller screen would suffice, so I'm not sure I can really see a need for the 3G model and it's data costs. Unless you don't already have an iPhone or you simply have that much cash to toss around.
 
I agree with this. Not that I'm saying some people won't genuinely enjoy the iPad. But I know that if HP or Dell or Microsoft had released this EXACT product, it would flop. But because it has an :apple: on it, it will be more successful. Somehow Apple has managed to create this incredible "can do no wrong" image. Jobs could take a crap and stick an :apple: on it and sell it and people would believe it's solid gold right now. It's a sheep mentality, but I guess kudos to Apple and their marketing team for creating such a strong brand.

this guy works for Google ;)
 
Why is it every time that something new is available something has to be changed because it's ''so overwhelming''? Like seriously, could they just be ready for the worst?

It's been pretty well disclosed that supplies would be somewhat limited early on. The only way for Apple to have enough is if the launch turns out to be a bust because people just don't want the thing.
 
this guy works for Google ;)

Actually not haha, though I do prefer Google services/products in general.

It's funny you mention Google though, because Google also has been pretty effective at developing its brand. If Google released an iPad it'd probably sell pretty well too. Right now, the way I see it, brand worship follows this pecking order.

1) Apple
2) Google
3) Everyone else (who don't have a chance in hell)

It's strange to me that a lot of people don't really evaluate the product as much as the label attached to it.
 
Actually not haha, though I do prefer Google services/products in general.

It's funny you mention Google though, because Google also has been pretty effective at developing its brand. If Google released an iPad it'd probably sell pretty well too. Right now, the way I see it, brand worship follows this pecking order.

1) Apple
2) Google
3) Everyone else (who don't have a chance in hell)

It's strange to me that a lot of people don't really evaluate the product as much as the label attached to it.

Google is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Despite Tough Talk, Google Still Censoring in China

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_still_censoring_in_china.php


Google's been censoring search results in China for FOUR years.
 
i just smile at these netbook owners who either feel jealous of the iPad or feel dumb that they bought a netbook.
:D

Yeah, those "dumb" netbook owners with built-in webcams, USB ports, double the memory. The ability to run flash and multiple apps including Microsoft Office. That can output HDMI. That has Bluetooth. A full OS (even if it isn't your beloved OSX).

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-eee-pc-seashell/4505-3121_7-33893147.html?tag=mncol;lst

Feel foolish enough, or shall I countinue? :rolleyes:

I guess PT Barnum said it best when he said: "There's an iLemming born every minute." lol Oh, but, no... you go ahead w/ your obese iPod Touch and have fun there, skippy. :D
 
Why is it every time that something new is available something has to be changed because it's ''so overwhelming''? Like seriously, could they just be ready for the worst?

Sounds like a voice speaking from extensive business experience?

Apple really should have just made 6 billion ipads just in case.
 
I never would have thunk this... eva.
I thought people bought apple products because they were awesome.
Apparently not.
The iPad is 'meh' not 'awesome'.
The iPhone is awesome, the mac pro is awesome, the 27inch imac is awesome, the 17" MBP is awesome and the (cracked)apple tv+airport extreme is awesome .
Everything else is 'meh'. That includes the ipad, ipods, small screen imac, mac mini and the magic mouse (i get some severe RSI from using it it's such a painful thing. I wonder how painful the ipad would be to use while laying down to type/read/multitouch ).

I can't stand people like you. Those who like to believe their opinions are pure fact.

What is "meh" to you might be "awesome" to someone else. The world doesn't revolve around you. Just because you don't want or see a need for one, doesn't mean that's the case for everyone else, and that certainly doesn't mean the product is complete junk.
 
If an Apple Store had only secured a 100 reservations by now, either the iPad is a stinking failure or that is all they will have on opening day. 100 is hardly a number to crow about.

Not someone who is good with numbers eh?

It was reported for a non-flagship store, and this is the first half day they have even been able to take reservations?

Given previous lines for the iPhone and the 3G iPhone I would say that many reservations this soon is pretty astounding. But I actually have some context and understanding of the numbers.
 
Jobs could take a crap and stick an :apple: on it and sell it and people would believe it's solid gold right now. It's a sheep mentality, but I guess kudos to Apple and their marketing team for creating such a strong brand.

How many times have we heard that? I swear I think someone says that exact same thing every single time an iPad is mentioned. You internet trolls are like parrots, and you have the nerve to call someone else a sheep? Give me a break, all you trolls do is regurgitate things other trolls say.

Is it really so hard to believe that Apple makes products that average consumers want to buy? Yes, believe it or not, the majority of Apples products get sold to average joes, NOT just tech blog fanboys.
 
I suppose I should have mentioned that I want the iPad to do well before taking a hit from you about my math skills. I ordered my 2 as soon as the store opened this morning. A non-flagship store means almost all of them -- how many are flagships anyway? 100 reservations after all this time to create demand seems like not so much from the perspective of someone with zero context and understanding.

Not someone who is good with numbers eh?

It was reported for a non-flagship store, and this is the first half day they have even been able to take reservations?

Given previous lines for the iPhone and the 3G iPhone I would say that many reservations this soon is pretty astounding. But I actually have some context and understanding of the numbers.
 
Despite Tough Talk, Google Still Censoring in China

Google's been censoring search results in China for FOUR years.

Because that is the law there in China. It is a Communist run country. You folks act like as if it was some sort of democratic nirvana. The government has firewalled the entire country's internet. Your servers are either going to be in the country; where subject to local law. Or outside the country; where they can cut you off with firewall block update and declare you illegal to access.


Apple kisses the Communist government's butt just as much as Google does *and* pumps millions more into the government bank accounts the government uses to maintain control ! Apple has offloaded practically all of the their manufacturing to the country. Bent over backwards to give them a custom iPhone. Apple never mentions advocates or overly mentions Taiwan. Doesn't premote a "Think different" poster of the Dalai Lama. Nor anything else that might red-flag. Heck they don't even call the government out on allowing slave labor contractors to operate or all kinds of labor vioations. Instead Apple spends its own money to enforce decent labor conditions for the contractor's workers. If some US company was doing the job of the government they'd be bitching and moaning till the cows came home about having to spend money to do what the government was suppose to do.
 
How many times have we heard that? I swear I think someone says that exact same thing every single time an iPad is mentioned. You internet trolls are like parrots, and you have the nerve to call someone else a sheep? Give me a break, all you trolls do is regurgitate things other trolls say.

Is it really so hard to believe that Apple makes products that average consumers want to buy? Yes, believe it or not, the majority of Apples products get sold to average joes, NOT just tech blog fanboys.

They create hype first and foremost and you know it. Remember the "oooh, wicked cool!" MacBook Air-in-an-manila-envelope ad? Yeah. How did that turn out for them? The MBA is an ignored dud.

Creating products people actually want to use... HA! People want a built-in webcam and is that there in the final product? A full OSX? Nope.

Amazing what fanboys will put up w/ in the way of shoddy treatment just because it IS stuck w/ an "Apple" logo.
 
Because that is the law there in China. It is a Communist run country. You folks act like as if it was some sort of democratic nirvana. The government has firewalled the entire country's internet. Your servers are either going to be in the country; where subject to local law. Or outside the country; where they can cut you off with firewall block update and declare you illegal to access.


Apple kisses the Communist government's butt just as much as Google does *and* pumps millions more into the government bank accounts the government uses to maintain control ! Apple has offloaded practically all of the their manufacturing to the country. Bent over backwards to give them a custom iPhone. Apple never mentions advocates or overly mentions Taiwan. Doesn't premote a "Think different" poster of the Dalai Lama. Nor anything else that might red-flag. Heck they don't even call the government out on allowing slave labor contractors to operate or all kinds of labor vioations. Instead Apple spends its own money to enforce decent labor conditions for the contractor's workers. If some US company was doing the job of the government they'd be bitching and moaning till the cows came home about having to spend money to do what the government was suppose to do.


Google

--- "do no evil. unless there's money involved."
 
How many times have we heard that? I swear I think someone says that exact same thing every single time an iPad is mentioned. You internet trolls are like parrots, and you have the nerve to call someone else a sheep? Give me a break, all you trolls do is regurgitate things other trolls say.

Is it really so hard to believe that Apple makes products that average consumers want to buy? Yes, believe it or not, the majority of Apples products get sold to average joes, NOT just tech blog fanboys.

Exactly...there are tons of apple products that I have absolutely no interest in. Might Mouse - No, Apple TV - NO, Macbook Pro less firewire - HELL NO, Apple BT Keyboard without numberic pad - NO? Iphone on ATT - NO.

And I am an Apple Lover!

The Ipad appeals to me on so many levels. It is the right product at the right time, for me, being on the road visiting clients everyday.
 
Exactly...there are tons of apple products that I have absolutely no interest in. Might Mouse - No, Apple TV - NO, Macbook Pro less firewire - HELL NO, Apple BT Keyboard without numberic pad - NO? Iphone on ATT - NO.

And I am an Apple Lover!

The Ipad appeals to me on so many levels. It is the right product at the right time, for me, being on the road visiting clients everyday.

Exactly. The iPad is the perfect product for A LOT of people. My mom was never interested in an iPod Touch but now wants an iPad because it is almost perfect for her.

People seem to think for some reason that everyone else in the world should have the same preferences as them.
 
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