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I'm starting to actually get sick of reading this stuff on Mac Rumors. Technically speaking this "background" stuff has absolutely nothing to do with the Mac and the tech that comes out of Apple. The editors, moderators and administrators of Mac Rumors obviously have an agenda to ram this stuff down our throats. Engadget is doing this crap as well and it's getting real old. Many come here to read and discuss our favorite Apple products. Instead we are treated to a constant barrage of political and social commentary.

I stopped reading engadget when they started adding autoplay videos. I find that more offensive than someone wanting to use my bathroom.
 
I am really, really, sick of reading all this transgender/bathroom/etc. crap. The human species is male and female. If someone makes a CHOICE to live a deviant lifestyle, I don't see why they should get special attention and privileges.
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Don't be another liberal robot spouting what hear other people saying. Trump did not take away anyone's rights. His decision was to leave these policies to the state level.


Are you a biologist or a psychologist?
 
Will this make people boycott Apple products?
Only in the bathroom. No more reading the iPad Iphones on the toilet! (Joke--and sorry if it's already been made. I read only up to page four and got tired of the vitriol).

I personally will pee and poo in the shrubbery where it's more sanitary.
 
To say "white people are privileged" is plain racist to begin with. White privilege is to say anybody who is not of color is racist. Its reverse racism. If you accuse somebody of something because of their color of skin without any evidence that's called racism.
Privilege is when you don't have to worry about being fired from your job because of the color of your skin or being beat up because of who you sleep with. It's having a benefit because of who you are.
 
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lol. I simply cannot. Feigned outrage and Non-Issues.
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If the transgender male is the slightly overweight person with the blue "ACLU" then I as a male have no objection for him using the male toilet, and I think many females would be surprised / worried / weirded out if he followed Trump's instructions and used the female toilets.


That's a deeply un-christian attitude. There's no deviant life style. God in his infinite wisdom gives some people the wrong body, and many affected fix their problem. Even in Iran, the religious leaders accept transgender people and _encourage_ them to make changes to live in the right body. Do you really want to show yourself as being more backward than these people?

What you say is like saying "members of the human species have two arms and two legs". Well, some don't. That doesn't make them deviant.

Wrong body or wrong brain? That's the issue here. It's slowly coming out that this is a mental disorder.
 
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With due respect to those that are transgender, I have a few questions, and these are to learn, as well as provoke thought...

1. Why is it that I only hear about men wanting to use women's restrooms, and not the other way around?
2. Is this really an issue? I mean, the purpose of these rooms is to be able to relieve yourself, and get going, and to make it more sanitary, we have these rooms to take the waste, rather than just doing it in the middle of the grocery store aisles. I don't mean to minimize the issues that transgender people are going through when using the restroom of their birth certificate gender, but it seems that we're doing cartwheels to placate the worries of a very small percentage of the population (a subset of transgender people that are bathroom averse - this isn't an issue for all transgender people)

For the other social maladies in our past, such as sexual discrimination, that directly affects a subset of 50% of the population, and racial discrimination affects a subset of 45% of the population, so I can see us mobilizing on this. I will always use a "a subset of" as not all people that are in that group are affected, or really care about the issue.

3. What is the next issue coming down the pike? This one became the cause de celeb right after the gay marriage debate was over. I mean, after we have a restroom, built at business owner's expense, for every type of personal choice, drive, reason for not wanting to tinkle around others, what's next?

NOTE: 80% of the statistics in this post are made up, not researched, but are good approximations, like 50% may be the population of women in the US is 51% or 49%, but if that's your argument against this post, you really need to get a life, and a better argument.
 
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I am really, really, sick of reading all this transgender/bathroom/etc. crap. The human species is male and female. If someone makes a CHOICE to live a deviant lifestyle, I don't see why they should get special attention and privileges.

So going to the bathroom is a privilege. I'm waiting for conservatives to say life itself is a privilege.

1. Why is it that I only hear about men wanting to use women's restrooms, and not the other way around?

I'm not a scientist, but all human embryos start out as female. Maybe that has something to do with it.
 
All people should be treated with respect, except women who don't want men in the bathroom with them? Right

Fathers who don't want men in the bathrooms with their daughters should have no say in the matter as well, right?

Look at the picture in the article. Do you want the big bloke with the blue "ACLU" writing on his top in the women's bathroom? Because THAT is what Trump wants.

Nobody wants men in the lady's bathroom. Nobody. That young man in the picture is in his view and in my view a man who should go to the men's. According to Trump he's a woman who should go to the lady's.
 
Privilege is when you don't have to worry about being fired from your job because of the color of your skin or being beat up because of who you sleep with. It's having a benefit because of who you are.
or being sprayed with mace because you wear a hat that the people setting fire to a place where someone that you disagree with is giving a talk because you believe in free speech, as long as a gay libertarian isn't doing it.
 
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Seeing people being against transgender-ness blows my mind and instantly fills me with rage. Let people live how they want to live. It's none of random Joe's business. I don't understand why it matters at all. The world is a much different place from when the Bible was written 2000~ years ago.

People aren't against "transgender-ness", they are against fake outrage like this for a non-issue. This is a MSM/Leftist crafted scheme to pit sides against one another. It has nothing to do with the .0000000001% of supposed trasgenders in America. If you need to use a restroom, you know which one to use. It's very simple. And they have been doing from their birth until now.
 
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Did he change his gender to male on his birth certificate? He should be able to use the bathroom if so.

Edit: Just looked into it, he did have his gender changed. He should absolutely be able to use the men's bathroom.
Who in this audiance is going to check their actual gender (what's under the hood) in the bathroom? I actually care more about the large group that seems to forget to wash their hands afterwords.
 
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Privilege is when you don't have to worry about being fired from your job because of the color of your skin or being beat up because of who you sleep with. It's having a benefit because of who you are.
Mmm, no. Actually Ive seen more whites at my job get fired vs. any other group. Try again. How about the whites that marry blacks and the whites get beat up or made fun of?
 
I am really, really, sick of reading all this transgender/bathroom/etc. crap. The human species is male and female. If someone makes a CHOICE to live a deviant lifestyle, I don't see why they should get special attention and privileges.
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Don't be another liberal robot spouting what hear other people saying. Trump did not take away anyone's rights. His decision was to leave these policies to the state level.

So many thing are wrong with this statement, but I will only stick to one.

The human species has produced through birth, people with both sex organs, no sex organs, and several combination in between. As we become more advance in understanding the human genetic code, we are finding out that sexual orientation is not as simple as male or female. Society will change to reflect this new understanding whether you personally like it or not.
 
I'm starting to actually get sick of reading this stuff on Mac Rumors. Technically speaking this "background" stuff has absolutely nothing to do with the Mac and the tech that comes out of Apple. The editors, moderators and administrators of Mac Rumors obviously have an agenda to ram this stuff down our throats. Engadget is doing this crap as well and it's getting real old. Many come here to read and discuss our favorite Apple products. Instead we are treated to a constant barrage of political and social commentary.

Verge (which used to be awesome) is now a Trump bashing site as well, following the fake (very fake) narrative of the MSM. Sad.
 

One, you are confusing being homosexual and being transgender. To them, a man is a man and should behave like a man, and a woman is a woman and should behave like a woman, and a man or woman who was born in the wrong body is and should be allowed to fix that problem.

And the point is: Even though they are absolutely medieval in certain attitudes, they _are_ more accepting of transgender people than Trump. Don't you think the US government should behave better than the Iranian government _in every respect_?
 
"It is the greatest good to the greatest number of people which is the measure of right and wrong." -- Jeremy Bentham

or... The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Swallow that one and let it stew for a while.
 
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I would be mentally ill, so probably what I say would have to be peer reviewed.
Well, I wasn't raised in the USA, but in Germany. Even 30 years ago the consensus in medical circles in Germany was that with a transgender person, the problem is not the mind, but the body. Now if you tell me that the USA is 30 years or more behind, I'll accept that.

Verge (which used to be awesome) is now a Trump bashing site as well, following the fake (very fake) narrative of the MSM. Sad.
Nobody is bashing Trump. There is such a thing as "personal responsibility". If you talk rubbish, you are personally responsible for that rubbish. Being president of the USA doesn't mean you are not responsible for the rubbish you talk. Quite the opposite.
 
Mmm, no. Actually Ive seen more whites at my job get fired vs. any other group. Try again. How about the whites that marry blacks and the whites get beat up or made fun of?
That is laughable. I bet there are more whites at your job than any other group too.

Where do you live that interracial couples are beat up or made fun of? That seems like a ridiculously intolerable area.
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Well, I wasn't raised in the USA, but in Germany. Even 30 years ago the consensus in medical circles in Germany was that with a transgender person, the problem is not the mind, but the body. Now if you tell me that the USA is 30 years or more behind, I'll accept that.
Not all of the US, just parts are behind the times.
 
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That is laughable. I bet there are more whites at your job than any other group too.

Where do you live that interracial couples the beat up or made fun of? That seems like a ridiculously intolerable area.
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Not all of the US, just parts are behind the times.

Not really. There's a 60 40 split. And no black person has been fired or let go. It could be intolerance but it exists; therefore, there is a fallacy in the whole "white privilege" phenomenon.
 
Same neanderthal responses from uninformed and biased folks.
People worried about transgenders when they have a President who thinks nothing of grabbing a woman, any woman by the *****.
For the religious zealots, you all lost any moral high ground you falsely claim when you supported a misogynist, cheating, lying, privileged, racist for President. Jesus would be tempted to bitch slap the lot of you for failing to be good stewards or the earth and failing to address social injustice.

You are a horrible troll. In 72 years of Trump being on this planet, their biggest, BIGGEST SHOCKER was that he COMMENTED blowing smoke up a guys arse in private about grabbing his groupies by the cooter. lol! Not that he actually did it, not that there's proof, he made some locker room guy talk in PRIVATE. Oh, and let's not forget in the audio clip he actually says: "AND THEY LET YOU" which is NOT sexual assault. Have you heard of Wikileaks?

It's why your schmuck lost the Election. And this feigned, fake outrage right here is why you'll guarantee a Trump 2020 victory, and a Libertarian, Populist, Republican (if it's still around) Victory for eons to come.
 
With due respect to those that are transgender, I have a few questions, and these are to learn, as well as provoke thought...

1. Why is it that I only hear about men wanting to use women's restrooms, and not the other way around?
Actually, the article is about a transgender man who wants to use the men's bathroom...

Now seriously, take that young man on the front page and imagine him going to the lady's room. The ladies would be upset. He would be upset. But some people think just because of his birth certificate, that's what he should do. And there are plenty of transgender women, who look like women, behave like women, and some people want them to go to the men's room which could be risky. (Let's say this is not in an office building or in a school, but in a bar with lots of drunk patrons).

What you are supposed to believe is that some dirty old man will declare that he feels like a woman to be allowed to enter the lady's bathroom and that his "rights" will be protected. ********. He'll either be escorted out by the police, or end up with a high heel in his skull.
 
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The fact that you think it's a choice shows just how poorly informed and ignorant you are. Have some tolerance and compassion. Besides, how does this impact you in the first place? Why do you care? Trump is a con artist and a criminal with deep ties to Russia, white supremacy and troublesome special interests. He is a disgrace.

You have proof it's not a choice?

The American college of pediatrics recently affirmed the medical opinion that gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and that parents encouraging children to identify with whatever gender they "like" more causes more harm than good.

You might not like this because it doesn't fit your liberal utopia model of identity politics and "worth" being valued by how many boxes for social grievance someone can tick on a federal form but it doesn't really matter.... because there are two genders in mammals, male and female.
 
People aren't against "transgender-ness", they are against fake outrage like this for a non-issue. This is a MSM/Leftist crafted scheme to pit sides against one another. It has nothing to do with the .0000000001% of supposed trasgenders in America. If you need to use a restroom, you know which one to use. It's very simple. And they have been doing from their birth until now.
Someone can keep it simple in their mind to make it easy for them, and it should be simple, but it's very far from it. And it's not the fault of transgender people.

This forum wouldn't be an absolute mess right now if it was simple.
 
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