Apple and Samsung Push Back Against Xiaomi's Bold India Ads

[Rychiar]

Gaudy. The Pad looks alright though

Ive thought apples camera system has looked hideous since they started this style ages ago. I thought it was a joke in the first renderings. Can’t believe it still looks like this today. But at this point I don’t care what phones look like anymore as long as they function well

 

[wonderings]

educate yourself before you post

I believe the post was tongue in cheek, maybe get a funny bone?

 

[Selena Agna]

There was a time when Apple simply made better products than everyone else, and any ad by the competition was just water off a duck's back.

Tim Cook has different priorities.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

How many units of the flagship model does Xiaomi actually sell? There's your answer as to why the specs can be higher. It wouldn't be feasible to do if Xiaomi had to sell at high volume like Apple.

What does your response have to do with another's persons accusation of Xiaomi copying everything from Apple?

 

[coreyweberling]

Ads like that are lame in general......Samsung does the same thing though. They rag on Apple all the time. And Apple's done it to Microsoft.

Who cares....

Frankly though.....Apple does need to step it up! Especially on the camera front. Some of these other companies are really upping the game with larger sensors, etc.

I don't trust them to actually be good because I don't see very many examples of things actually being produced with them.

But I want to see Apple innovate! If they can get the ultra-wide and the tele to match the quality of the main then we'll have something special.

Apple Log still is the best addition I've seen in a smartphone.

I saw a rumor that they were making their own camera sensor. So maybe once they put that in like the iPhone 20 we'll see some real advancements or upgrades.....not just 8k. (who actually cares about 8k....I mean come on).

 

[WinstonSmyth]

I can't believe this trend is now a trend again. Like how much of a camera do you really need to take a photo of your cat.

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Why not just buy a real camera. No serious photographer would do their work with a phone camera.

 

[Peitjah Puck]

Boohoohoo Apple 😂

 

[thiscatisfat]

Why not just buy a real camera. No serious photographer would do their work with a phone camera.

Like I have a 48MP camera on my 14 Pro and I swear to you I can’t notice a difference in quality between an iPhone SE 1st gen and my 14 Pro. Side by side it’s almost impossible to tell, maybe I’m just blind but like how many giga lenses do people really need?

I took this photo with an iPhone 4S. I don’t know how much compression does the forum apply to photos posted here, but if you told me you took this photo with some giga lense 16 Pro Max Ultra, I’d probably believe you. Do we really need 2 protruding lenses on a standard iPhone? I don’t.

This will be interesting: which one of these was taken with 14 Pro and which one 1st gen SE? I tapped to focus on my dog.

Cameras on phones are marketing, and I don’t really like the trend of how camera is the main selling point of a phone. There’s nothing more a phone can do, so they use camera improvement as marketing again and again. I for sure haven’t upgraded to a newer iPhone because of a camera. I personally think my Canon M50 is unbeatable compared to smartphone cameras, so why spend 1500-2000€ on a smartphone, just imagine how much of a real camera you could buy for that kind of money 😄 Yeah, no, I’m not a fan of massive cameras on phones. An iPhone shouldn’t be a camera, it should be a phone with a good camera. Apple is really botching the whole iPhone design for camera marketing, and it’s sad. The 17 lineup looks like it has a massive forehead in the back, it looks so weird! That’s the only thing I like about the 16e.

 

[mashdots]

I daily drive an iPhone (shocker) but I also develop on Android, so I regularly am in that OS. The thing is that phone hardware is so good these days that I personally don't find the differences all that compelling, so ads like these fall flat. The OS, ecosystem, and user experience is what is more important to me. I guess you could say the ecosystem is partly hardware based. But it boils down the the UX and I'm not convinced switching to Android will offer the same experience I get on iOS.

 

[SpanishAppleNerd]

Apple would never mock a competitor. In fact, they would never run a series of ads for several years doing so.

"I'm a PC" thinks otherwise

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

"I'm a PC" thinks otherwise

It was sarcasm. The poster clearly knows about the ads that ran for a couple years.

 

[jlc1978]

The reality: The market doesn't care about who is on first, and what is on second. They care about what they have right now and the best price.

I don't know, but I guess that would be the third answer when asked about specs. Why you posted that is unclear but it clearly came from left field.

Why not just buy a real camera. No serious photographer would do their work with a phone camera.

A camera is merely a tool to capture a photographers vision, as long as it meet their needs then it is fine and the choice of toll does not make them any less of a professional.

 

[cjsuk]

As someone who owns a full frame mirrorless camera with many high quality lenses, I both agree and disagree. Smartphones are a lot more capable than what they're given credit for, and they make great substitutes for the point and shoot cameras of yesteryear. If I'm traveling somewhere that I know I'm going to want great shots I will absolutely pack my full gear, but it's also handy to have a high quality camera that I have on me at all times. But I also enjoy spending hours doing editing in post to get things just to my liking, which is not everyone's cup of tea.

I literally started a large thread on here about why that isn't true.

 

[cjsuk]

It's not an affront, it's gatekeeping by you. Why concern yourself with what other people want to buy and use?

I have a DSLR and my phone, so it's not for me, but it's a nice looking device, and the ergonomics for photo-taking are light years better than anything Apple has. A full camera grip vs Apple's finicky-as-hell camera "button"? Not even close.

Xiaomi 14 Ultra Review: The Best Camera Phone I've Ever Used

I'm a professional photographer and this phone has blown me away.

www.cnet.com

My camera has a full camera grip!

 

[cjsuk]

This is you, apparently:

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Hahahaha.

No just a Z50ii and the 18-140mm.

Good luck with your phones...

 

[cjsuk]

Saying it's an "affront" is a bit much. I mean, I wouldn't buy it myself, but it doesn't offend, outrage or upset me.

Even if I don't like a piece of consumer tech, it's not an "affront". Consumer tech really doesn't fall into the "atrocity" category, no matter how bad it is.

This is indeed an affront. Google's absolutely mental digital post-processing.

 

[cjsuk]

I don't disagree a DSLR is better. The nice thing about getting something like this is I have a choice whether I want to carry 20lbs of camera and lenses and batteries everywhere I go or carry a phone and get the best possible pictures I can.

You seem pretty worked up over this. Why?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/off-on-holiday-but-not-sure-i-can-be-bothered-to-take-my-camera.2447112/

Particularly my last comment:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/off-on-holiday-but-not-sure-i-can-be-bothered-to-take-my-camera.2447112/page-3?post=33794664#post-33794664

 

[Happy_John]

This is indeed an affront. Google's absolutely mental digital post-processing.

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This not an „affront”, this is a photo of a farm. Looks like a chilly day too.

 

[coolfactor]

They are doing better stuff actually... That we don't care to try it doesn't mean their tech is not better.
Apple hasn't been innovative since Steve died...

You know that's not true, right? First off, "better" is always subjective. Bigger specs don't make something better. It's the whole package, the end result, that matters. iPhone defined the current age of mobile phones.

As for a lack of innovation, this is always amusing to hear. Apple takes a very cautious approach, an incremental approach, to innovating their products. It has worked well for them, and the success of their business speaks for itself.

The M-series upgrade to Macs was an exception... that was monumental and lit a fire under the industry.

But you're right... Apple could be more creative on the outward appearance of their products, but that's not innovation, just surface-level appearance. Their true value is what's underneath.

 

[WarmWinterHat]

My camera has a full camera grip!

Mine too...I'm still using a D800 that I bought in 2012.

 

[cjsuk]

Mine too...I'm still using a D800 that I bought in 2012.

Yeah my old 2010 D3100 takes better photos than ANY smartphone today...

Good luck getting that out of a phone - ZERO post processing...

 

[cjsuk]

This not an „affront”, this is a photo of a farm. Looks like a chilly day too.

It's in the middle of Iceland so yes.

 

[5px]

Apple and Samsung have reportedly issued cease-and-desist notices to Xiaomi in India for an ad campaign that directly compares the rivals' devices to Xiaomi's products. The two companies have threatened the Chinese vendor with legal action, calling the ads "disparaging."

Ads have appeared in local print media and on social media that take pot shots at the competitors' premium offerings. One full-page print ad published in April wished readers a "Happy April Fools' Day" if they believed the iPhone 16 Pro Max's cameras could match those on Xiaomi's recently launched 15 Ultra.

In March, another print ad described the triple lens array on the iPhone 16 Pro Max as "cute" and questioned whether it was "really the best," while touting the Ultra's higher camera specifications and more affordable price. Xiaomi has launched similar ad campaigns against Samsung.

Apple and Samsung contend that the tone of Xiaomi's promotions went beyond fair competition, and portrayed the global market leaders in a negative light. Comparative advertising in India is not prohibited provided they are fact-based and fair, but lawyers can legitimately get involved if the tone and language is perceived as mocking.

Samsung's promotional jabs at Apple have recently taken a more understated approach. Its ads typically don't call out iPhones outright, and instead spotlight features where Samsung believes it has the edge.

The tech giants' responses to this particular ad campaign indicate just how fiercely contested India's smartphone sector has become. As the country's two leading high-end vendors, both brands obviously see their reputation and market share as vital in one of the world's fastest-growing and most lucrative markets, and intend to defend them using all the legal tools at their disposal.

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can't handle competition 😂. Apple and Samsung became too comfortable with no competition in the western market. We need brands like xiaomi and vivo here

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

This is indeed an affront. Google's absolutely mental digital post-processing.

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You sure depend on cherry-picking to make your point, don't you? You know cameras also shoot RAW, right? Of course you do...you're a professional after all.

 

[thiscatisfat]

You sure depend on cherry-picking to make your point, don't you? You know cameras also shoot RAW, right? Of course you do...you're a professional after all.

Can you take a picture with your phone in this quality with the mountains in the back being this big in the photo? Like is it generally possible to do with a phone camera? I’ve tried a few times by zooming in, but the quality wasn’t great.