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Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for Samsung. Throw all their execs in jail.

very cool. shows where your priorities are. risk taking bankers are let off the hook who are responsible for bigger problems. dun think anyones life was ruined because of some bouncing affect on a phone. thx
 
It amazes me how mis-informed people like you are. Let me paint you a simple picture.......

You own a small business and one day you have a brilliant idea for a new product that nobody else has.......

1) You design the new product and have it patented ( to protect your new idea ).

2) You sell this new product and make billions of dollars

3) Another company comes along and steals your design by almost copying it identically. Ultimately costing your company billions of dollars in lost sales

4) You take this company to court to defend your product, patent and billions in lost sales.

5) You win becuase the patents of said product belongs to YOU.

ITS ILLEGAL TO COPY PATENTED PRODUCTS OR DESIGNS !!!!!!!!!!!

Get it now?

+1 Very well said.
 
This doesn't make sense to me. Because companies like Samsung and Google cannot use these patents, will it not lead to more innovation, and more choices?

Not when the patents that apple is using are crapents. WHich means they weak patents and overly broad.
Sorry but you should not be able to patent a flash slab retangle.
 
Think outside the box. There is more than one way to make a phone. Before the iPhone would you have said the same about cell phones? Would you have said is there is no other way to make a smart phone without a full keyboard and directional pad? Apple found a way to, and someone else can find another?




...what?

You may have bought your car legally, but that doesn't mean it should be your.

I forgot the "not" between "does" and "mean". I was trying to point out that just because the law says one thing it does not mean it is the right thing.
 
If Samsung are such innovators..... make something that doesn't exist yet. Something doesn't already have a proven market. They seem to be a company that puts out various products that are similar to what is already available and successful in the marketplace. Maybe with added features here or there but nothing risky.

Consumers, who's well being Samsung seems to be very worried about, don't need another phone that's kinda like what's already available. F- the iPhone and Android phones. Invent something completely different and new.Take a chance for a change.

Like Apple made many things that didn't exist. Like a smartphone. Oh, wait, someone else did it before them. Well Apple made the first tablet. Oh, wait, tablets existed long before the iPad. Apple made the first, super-thin computer, the Macbook Air. Oh wait, the Sony Vaio Z was around long before the MBA. Well Apple invented the iPod, the first portable music player. Oh, wait.........

Is this the kind of innovation you are talking about?
 
How is that different than blindly buying an iPhone as millions of consumers do, just because it was made by Apple. Most don't much about it at all.

I don't understand these comments made by people who do not only have Apple in their user name, but more than likely own Apple products themselves. These people must hate themselves.


Like Apple made many things that didn't exist. Like a smartphone. Oh, wait, someone else did it before them. Well Apple made the first tablet. Oh, wait, tablets existed long before the iPad. Apple made the first, super-thin computer, the Macbook Air. Oh wait, the Sony Vaio Z was around long before the MBA. Well Apple invented the iPod, the first portable music player. Oh, wait.........

Is this the kind of innovation you are talking about?

Innovation in this sense does not simply mean the first to come out it. In this sense it means the first to get it "right".


Innovative
adj
using or showing new methods, ideas, etc.
-thefreedictionary.com
 
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Like Apple made many things that didn't exist. Like a smartphone. Oh, wait, someone else did it before them. Well Apple made the first tablet. Oh, wait, tablets existed long before the iPad. Apple made the first, super-thin computer, the Macbook Air. Oh wait, the Sony Vaio Z was around long before the MBA. Well Apple invented the iPod, the first portable music player. Oh, wait.........

Is this the kind of innovation you are talking about?

I never mentioned Apple. But since you brought them up, those were industry changing products. What Samsung product has had those effects on an industry?
 
Like Apple made many things that didn't exist. Like a smartphone. Oh, wait, someone else did it before them. Well Apple made the first tablet. Oh, wait, tablets existed long before the iPad. Apple made the first, super-thin computer, the Macbook Air. Oh wait, the Sony Vaio Z was around long before the MBA. Well Apple invented the iPod, the first portable music player. Oh, wait.........

Is this the kind of innovation you are talking about?

While your examples are hyperbole, I nonetheless see that the individuals who proclaim Apple innovates never really say what those exact innovations are. This is not to say that Apple does not innovate, however.
 
Like Apple made many things that didn't exist. Like a smartphone. Oh, wait, someone else did it before them. Well Apple made the first tablet. Oh, wait, tablets existed long before the iPad. Apple made the first, super-thin computer, the Macbook Air. Oh wait, the Sony Vaio Z was around long before the MBA. Well Apple invented the iPod, the first portable music player. Oh, wait.........

Is this the kind of innovation you are talking about?

LMAO. Yea Apple is pretty much known for their total lack of innovation. Well said. Well thought out.
 
Man, I hate reading the PR quotes. They always make me ill...

Apples statement struck me as disingenuous until I read Samsung's and the bar on disingenuous jumped up. "Clearly nobody else in this space has any good ideas, so if we can't keep copying Apple, Apple will have no motivation to innovate any further."

I find it interesting that the payout here is 5 orders of magnitude higher than what Korea thought made sense.
 
Kids may blindly follow Apple for Apple's sake, but I buy their products because they are made to a higher quality than other manufacturers - simple really.the who the what now?

What's funny is that many of the parts that Apple uses are made by Samsung.
 
It may be theirs legally, but that does not mean it should be.

My god, people like you are why this country if failing in every way.



I guess by your logic, everything you own is LEGALLY yours, but I should be able to steal it from you with no worry of reprocusions right? You shouldnt be allowed to own anything right ?



You = massive fail
 
I don't understand these comments made by people who do not only have Apple in their user name, but more than likely own Apple products themselves. These people must hate themselves.

That is by far the most logically disconnected statement I have read all day. You can like their products, hate the company, and disagree with the trial's outcome.
 
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I never mentioned Apple. But since you brought them up, those were industry changing products. What Samsung product has had those effects on an industry?

Apple didn't invent any of the products I posted. They copied the idea from someone else. But that's ok, right?
 
Everyone copies each other. There patents for some things are unwarranted. This case should have been dismissed entirely.

This is what Samsung phones looked like before the iPhone came out:

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And after:

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Don't tell me that this case should be dismissed. Imagine if you invented and patented something and everybody ripped you off, cutting into your profits that you rightly deserve?
 
I have to agree with both sides actually. All this insane patenting has gotten out of control. I wish patents would expire perhaps after a year or two. This would literally force innovation.
 
Team Samsung for the sake of consumers. I could care less who copied who. I don't want these lawsuits to go out of control!

Apple Wins - Apple's Lawyers Win, More Lawsuits, Consumers will eventually lose with less smartphone choices in the market.
Samsung Wins - Apple's Lawyers Lose, Consumers can continue to have the status quo, Apple still is wining regardless.

Everyone copies each other. There patents for some things are unwarranted. This case should have been dismissed entirely.

A blatant copy doesn't help anyone and let's face it, some of those phones were blatant copies. One could even argue that Android is a copy. See Windows Phone 7 (now Windows Phone 8) for a radically different smart phone OS that isn't a copy at all.

You complain about less innovation, but where is the innovation? Side-stepping patents as you copy your way to a product?

Stopping crappy replicas only prevents users from receiving an inferior product, which is a good thing.

This just forces Samsung to come up with something truly innovative and that's good for consumers.
 
How is that different than blindly buying an iPhone as millions of consumers do, just because it was made by Apple. Most don't much about it at all.

If Apple products suck so much, why are even the cheap knock-offs selling like hotcakes?
 
This is what Samsung phones looked like before the iPhone came out:

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And after:

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Don't tell me that this case should be dismissed. Imagine if you invented and patented something and everybody ripped you off, cutting into your profits that you rightly deserve?

No way dude!! F apple. They copied everything and innovated nothing!! They suck!! Samsung would have made those last 2 phones just like that even if Apple had not beaten them to it! :p
 
I have to agree with both sides actually. All this insane patenting has gotten out of control. I wish patents would expire perhaps after a year or two. This would literally force innovation.

actually it woud not force innovation. Think about what you just said. If the patent expires after a year or two, then all the copying would begin. Keep patents in place for 5+ years and companies would be forced to innovate beacuse the would not be allowed to copy........hense the current patent laws that are in place.
 
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