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Apple and Samsung Respond to the $1 Billion Patent Verdict

AppleScruff1 said:
If I write a song and call it Satisfaction and change it up a bit to make it a rap song so today's youth will like it, wouldn't that be copying since the Rolling Stones wrote it 50 years ago?
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royalties are duly paid.

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AppleScruff1 said:
The iPhone can't match a Motorola for RF.
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Samsung can't match Apple without copying.

nobody said iPhone was the best allrounder, it is the best quality product of a limited bunch though.
 
Melab said:
Off topic as well.

My favorite quote of hers is


I very much disagree with some of what she would consider to be the most important aspects of her philosophy, but some of the things she says are pretty friggin awesome.
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Thanks, added to my collecting. Excellent quote. And yes, I would not say I am in support of, or approve of, everything she believed in, but so many of her quotes are so appropriate to what I believe. They are also so well put to counter the direction that this world, and the mediocre majority, would take us. "Community" as a reason to enslave the individual, is scary stuff.

Cank
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Like Apple made many things that didn't exist. Like a smartphone. Oh, wait, someone else did it before them. Well Apple made the first tablet. Oh, wait, tablets existed long before the iPad. Apple made the first, super-thin computer, the Macbook Air. Oh wait, the Sony Vaio Z was around long before the MBA. Well Apple invented the iPod, the first portable music player. Oh, wait.........

Is this the kind of innovation you are talking about?
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So then it's just a coincidence that apples smart phone is the best selling smart phone on the planet,...their tablet is best selling tablet on the planet,...their ipod is the the best selling portable music player on the planet,...and the MBA is considered the best "thin" laptop on the planet. Just total luck, right? They just copied everyone and everything to produce their products. But yet somehow the companies that did the actual innovation don't have one product, in any of those categories that can even compete with apple. Apple sure is one lucky, non-innovative company.

Truth is, EVERY othe company out there is trying to figure out some way to copy apples innovation. Just take a look at ANY smart phone prior to apple launching the iPhone in 07. Then take a look at smartphones after 07. It's a complete joke. Case closed.
 
Let's face some truth. Samsung didn't innovate to be creative for the consumer, but copied to make themselves money on Apple's winning design.

Now "necessity is the mother of invention" , so Samsung and Google will be forced to be original and that will benefit them and the consumer.
 
RWinOR said:
I agree I should be able to go copy the Harry Potter series and sell it to you for half price, you benefit cause it is cheaper, I benefit cause I make money. The only person who looses is the actual person who created the material.

Maybe we should change copyright laws on CD's and movies too, that way you can buy it for cheap, then the consumer wins right..... Wrong, people will stop creating if they cannot protect there intellectual ideas.

Consumers win when companies compete on there own merit, not on coping material where someone/a company spent millions developing the idea, and someone can spend thousands copping it to under sell the creator and take market share.
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Dude, watch your filthy mouth! :p
 
viewfly said:
Let's face some truth. Samsung didn't innovate to be creative for the consumer, but copied to make themselves money on Apple's winning design.

Now "necessity is the mother if invention" , so Samsung and Google will be forced to be original and that will benefit them and the consumer.
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And Apple innovated because the consumer comes first.

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sulpfiction said:
So then it's just a coincidence that apples smart phone is the best selling smart phone on the planet,...their tablet is best selling tablet on the planet,...their ipod is the the best selling portable music player on the planet,...and the MBA is considered the best "thin" laptop on the planet. Just total luck, right? They just copied everyone and everything to produce their products. But yet somehow the companies that did the actual innovation don't have one product, in any of those categories that can even compete with apple. Apple sure is one lucky, non-innovative company.

Truth is, EVERY othe company out there is trying to figure out some way to copy apples innovation. Just take a look at ANY smart phone prior to apple launching the iPhone in 07. Then take a look at smartphones after 07. It's a complete joke. Case closed.
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So copying is ok if Apple does it? It's ok because of the sales numbers? Did Google copy Apple by releasing a 7" tablet before Apple did?
 
Apple do have very strong views when it comes to these things, but i think they went to far with this one.
 
cankster said:
Thanks, added to my collecting. Excellent quote. And yes, I would not say I am in support of, or approve of, everything she believed in, but so many of her quotes are so appropriate to what I believe. They are also so well put to counter the direction that this world, and the mediocre majority, would take us. "Community" as a reason to enslave the individual, is scary stuff.
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This from the woman who railed against Social Security and Medicare in her works, and then secretly applied for and received both, using her husband's last name? (Source)

:eek:
 
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Apple innovates? More like they buy every innovative company and use their tech, or just steal it as well.

Apple = Better lawyers and more money than everyone else
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Quite true. But what if I claim I had a patent on guitar music?

Try the voice recognition on the SIII and compare it to SIRI and get back to me.
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why would I need to pick up an SIII when my iPhone works? you don't get it ...I don't need a new phone yet! When I do I'll look at what's on the market & I'll pick what suits my needs\lifestyle, and I will absolutely NOT be asking your opinion as your viewpoint seems somewhat biased.

Had a bad experience with iPhone? it certainly seems so.
 
cankster said:
Thanks, added to my collecting. Excellent quote. And yes, I would not say I am in support of, or approve of, everything she believed in, but so many of her quotes are so appropriate to what I believe. They are also so well put to counter the direction that this world, and the mediocre majority, would take us. "Community" as a reason to enslave the individual, is scary stuff.

Cank
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No problemo. :)

And while I do not really use them to counter the current trend in politics, I agree that things like "kill one to save a thousand" are pretty f*ckin awful. I like to think of that quote in particular when people talk about "state's rights" a la "the Bill of Rights should not also apply to the states". I cannot believe the gall of politicians the likes of Rick Santorum saying that a state should be able to outlaw forms of consensual sex or that communities should be allowed to have mandatory prayer in schools.
 
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The Free and Open Source Software community proves that blatant copying still produces innovation.

I'm not sure how not having patents stifles innovation.
 
Because most of the infringement was found to be willful, the damage award could go up by as much as triple the $1.05 billion verdict.
 
John.B said:
This from the woman who railed against Social Security and Medicare in her works, and then secretly applied for and received both, using her husband's last name? (Source)

:eek:
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It doesn't lessen the profundity of that quote, my friend. And some would argue that she was merely getting back what she was forced to pay into her whole life.
 
Lets face it we all know that Asian companies in Asia duplicate everything from electronics to the Rolex to Viagara. So I would have to side with Apple on this one. At the same time I do think that both competition and innovation are extremely important, it would be nice if companies spent more time innovating rather than copying other people's products because they are simply superior and they sell like cheese burgers. One such company that could really use some innovation is Microsoft, they have no vision mostly because they outsource most of their work to India. On the other hand Apple doesn't, they use US talent to produce awesome products that companies like Microsoft in turn try to replicate in India, it not happening Microsoft, what the hell is that Windows 8 ****? I'm sure it's going to be another nightmare product to support due to all its outsourced bugs.


-Mike
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Like Apple made many things that didn't exist. Like a smartphone. Oh, wait, someone else did it before them. Well Apple made the first tablet. Oh, wait, tablets existed long before the iPad. Apple made the first, super-thin computer, the Macbook Air. Oh wait, the Sony Vaio Z was around long before the MBA. Well Apple invented the iPod, the first portable music player. Oh, wait.........

Is this the kind of innovation you are talking about?
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They didn't invent the device. They reinvented it. Innovated it and made it something nearly completely different from what it originally was.

What Samsung did here was take the device, and make a few minor changes and called it something different. It's like a 5% change from the old standard compared to apples 95% change from the old standard.
 
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