Yeah why are there so many hates towards this machine? It’s possibly the last non-notch MacBook ever! And I know there are many notch-haters here too.
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Apple Announces 13-Inch MacBook Pro With M2 Chip Available to Order Worldwide Starting June 17
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Who's gonna buy this? There's nothing good about this machine, it's an odd duck. Old design, old screen, fewer ports, not really "Pro" by any measure.
You forgot not Magsafe 3 Charging meaning you have only one TB3 port while charging. The M2 Air has 2 x TB3 ports available while charging.
Computing hasn't been the same since the revolutionary Touch Bar was invented.
I think you mean Touch Bar, but yeah, I do see a small segment of people who would be happy with this, despite what these forums claim.
Apple's got the supply lines and manufacturing down to a tee with this by now, so I'm guessing their margins are tight as can be - why not offer this and make a few more schmeckles?
My guess is this is primarily for institutional or governmental buyers that have already qualified and approved the older model, so getting this updated revision approved for buying is an easy processes. Whereas putting a totally new model through qualification and approval will take some time. Most likely Apple signed supply agreements stating they will keep some version of the 13" MBP around for X years, and they figure might as well sell it publicly too because why not?
Observations like this amuse me. Just because something wasn't good or great in the past, somehow that's a reason not to improve upon it going forward? Apple looks forward. TouchBar does have a purpose and usefulness, and as you said, it just needs to be realized. The only way to have that happen is for it to exist.
But I'm surprised this laptop doesn't come with MagSafe. Did they keep that just on the Air purely for marketing reasons?
No one should buy this machine. If you want a small, light machine, wait for the Air. If you want more power, get the 14" Pro. This is a 2016 laptop with a 2022 chip. It doesn't need to exist.
Aka shed load of M1 versions they realised they wouldn’t be able to shift. Unbox, take apart, stick new M2 board in. Rebox. Et voila!
The bigger screen of the Air goes up and around the notch, you can have the display never show the notch if you'd prefer the smaller screen. The battery and Touch Bar are real reasons to choose the Pro. I personally liked the Touch Bar.
This machine makes no sense! Update the design, put MagSafe and HDMI in it, drop the Touch Bar and call it the 'MacBook'.
I do think they should have retained the Touch Bar as an option for the MacBook Pros, I personally hate it but know people who do like it.
I do think they should have retained the Touch Bar as an option for the MacBook Pros, I personally hate it but know people who do like it.
I am looking forward to more RAM but the cost is way over the board if I want to get the M2 one. So I think I'll just wait. Btw why so many people hate it just because?
I am waiting for Apple to implement virtual notch on newer designs to get full menubar and TouchBar is neat sometimes.
I am waiting for Apple to implement virtual notch on newer designs to get full menubar and TouchBar is neat sometimes.
At that point Apple might as well just discontinue it altogether. Why bother updating the design?
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Because I think there is a market for a machine more capable than the Air, but cheaper than the Pro.
Same price in the US if you match the chip and specs. The MBP is cheaper than the equivalent MBA in some countries.
I believe Apple had this practice before so no stranger.
However lazy it is, Apple updated internals of iPod Touch for 2 generations before discontinuing it. So I am hopeful they will update this design with M3 in it.
Lower 14" Pro price to fill that section of the market or offer more SKU in the Air.
TBH, this 13" MacBook Pro production cost for Apple prolly low enough that even if the margin is not great, it is still acceptable. And it is just so much easier to order a few thousands more than trying to redesign a new chassy just for that product.
Haha sometimes, I wonder how many Apple products you own and use. I always find you almost ordering every product Apple releases hehe. Although how do you use multiple laptops?
Secondly, I placed an order for MBP 14 today and it will be delivered somewhere in August. So, I wonder what would be the timeline for MBP Pro M2...although I did do CTO.
Jason Snell (I believe) mentioned that while he doesn't understand why Apple still offers it, he thinks it might be because it is the laptop of choice for business/enterprise/institutional purchasers and they buy millions of them every year so Apple keeps offering it.
And I think this makes sense. The 4-port 13" Intel model was very popular with software developers at a former company I worked for and we bought thousands of them every year. These folks needed sustained CPU performance (which the fan could help with) and they used the TouchBar in their daily workloads. And considering it is still far cheaper than the 14" MacBook Pro, I could see this being a very popular model with corporate IT departments.
So yes, this is a very poor choice for consumers, prosumers and many professionals, who are better served with an Air or the 14"/16" MacBook Pro.
But it seems to be a very smart choice for certain classes of professionals that are large enough to keep the model relevant in Apple's product line.
