Apple Announces 13-Inch MacBook Pro With M2 Chip Available to Order Worldwide Starting June 17

[oldmacs]

Lower 14" Pro price to fill that section of the market or offer more SKU in the Air.

Personally I think a 'MacBook' between the Air and the Pro would be:
- Lighter and more compact than the Pro
- Have a longer battery life than the Air (enabled by a thicker design than the Air, but smaller than the Pro)
- More ports/connectivity than the Air

A lowered price 14 Pro wouldn't fill this and neither would a specced up Air.

 

[Mr. Dee]

I think they should have just waited until October to release these with Ventura preinstalled. It would also given them more time build up more inventory. The fact that they are taking pre-orders for the old chassis model shows the new Air is gonna be delayed for many who choose it.

Anyway, still on the M1 and I’m gonna stick with it until 2025.

 

[Tagbert]

Funny that this is the one they ship first.

Not really a surprise. They already have a production line to assemble it and all the parts ready to go. the only changes are in the SOC (M2) and the circuitry that goes with it. This model is almost unchanged from the previous, M1, model which was also very little changed from the Intel model before that. If they had planned for this to exist for very long, they would have redesigned it. This is clearly a transition design and a placeholder for something between the 13.3” MBA and the 14” MBP that they haven’t launched yet.

 

[jav6454]

I think they should have just waited until October to release these with Ventura preinstalled. It would also given them more time build up more inventory. The fact that they are taking pre-orders for the old chassis model shows the new Air is gonna be delayed for many who choose it.

Anyway, still on the M1 and I’m gonna stick with it until 2025.

That new Air will see delays into the 2-month range.

 

[UltimateSyn]

Jason Snell (I believe) mentioned that while he doesn't understand why Apple still offers it, he thinks it might be because it is the laptop of choice for business/enterprise/institutional purchasers and they buy millions of them every year so Apple keeps offering it.

And I think this makes sense. The 4-port 13" Intel model was very popular with software developers at a former company I worked for and we bought thousands of them every year. These folks needed sustained CPU performance (which the fan could help with) and they used the TouchBar in their daily workloads. And considering it is still far cheaper than the 14" MacBook Pro, I could see this being a very popular model with corporate IT departments.

So yes, this is a very poor choice for consumers, prosumers and many professionals, who are better served with an Air or the 14"/16" MacBook Pro.

But it seems to be a very smart choice for certain classes of professionals that are large enough to keep the model relevant in Apple's product line.

That’s a very fair argument, but I still think they should’ve ‘phoned it in’ just a little bit less.

At least slap a MagSafe port on there, remove the ‘MacBook Pro’ text to make the design more consistent with its brethren, and update the webcam to 1080p to match the lower-priced Air. There shouldn’t be anything the Air does objectively better than the Pro, save for size/weight, because it convolutes the decision-making process for consumers and introduces unnecessary trade offs (even if it’s true that consumers aren’t this product’s largest audience).

 

[anshuvorty]

Hmm...I wonder why this laptop could be ordered so soon, yet the redesigned MBA doesn't have a solid pre-order date....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

Obviously, it has to do with the new chassis.

 

[FasterQuieter]

The only reason I can think of for the existence of this product is that they have a warehouse full of Touch Bars and somebody at Apple can't bring themself to throw them all in the trash where they belong.

 

[UltimateSyn]

You so good you had to come in and place 2-3 posts bashing a product you won't purchase because it won't suit you? Got it.

It'll sell, Apple has done their research and the numbers talk. The whole "rung" has been that way since the 14/16 were announced and it still sold.

It was two posts… the same number of posts you’re already deep in trying to discourage me from posting my opinion. Oh, well!

 

[MTD's Mac]

I just rewatched the section of the keynote and saw that this Mac, like the Air, was announced as "available next month" so early availability may bode well for the supply chain in general.

Friday preorder/next Friday availability mirrors many other recent Apple preorder cycles. So we can probably expect the same for the Air, but not until this cycle is complete. So, earliest Air availability seems like order on July 1, available July 8? Latest to make the "next month" claim would be orders on July 22, available July 29. We'll see...

 

[jav6454]

It was two posts… the same number of posts you’re already deep in trying to discourage me from posting my opinion. Oh, well!

You can post your opinion, I am not limiting that nor will I ever. But just general bashing a product because you don't like it is undesirable. People have a like for the machine, otherwise it wouldn't sell.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

That new Air will see delays into the 2-month range.

I have a feeling it may be released by Mid July or early August? Right before Back to School starts.

 

[jav6454]

I have a feeling it may be released by Mid July or early August? Right before Back to School starts.

Likely it'll be released within a week after the MBP and then shipping will slip to a 2 month backorder. If not, then my more inclined opinion is that it'll be released along the MBP without preorders due to limited stock.

 

[Kuckuckstein]

Funny that this is the one they ship first.

Naaaaah - quickly get people to buy it before even more reviews hit YouTube explaining the obvious: that this is a dumb choice.

 

[MrGimper]

No-one is going to buy this. They're rushing it out before the Air M2 hoping those who must have the first M2 to impress everyone on social media bite.

 

[UltimateSyn]

You can post your opinion, I am not limiting that nor will I ever. But just general bashing a product because you don't like it is undesirable. People have a like for the machine, otherwise it wouldn't sell.

I have a more thorough explanation of my thoughts and opinions on why I’m frustrated with the product a few posts up. When I criticize I generally try to give a detailed opinion, although sometimes those posts are separated out between gut reaction and deeper dive.

I’d also argue that both of the posts you’re referring to still served a purpose; one was a general criticism of its value in the lineup (ie. not just “this thing sux!!!!!”), and another was a detailed list of features the MBP lacks versus its cheaper sibling.

Also just want to say that you continuing to reference sales makes no sense. There has not been a single sale of this product with the lineup in the state that it’s in today.

 

[sirozha]

The worst value-wise purchase in Apple's Mac (laptop) lineup.

You forgot inflation?

 

[mnsportsgeek]

Guessing we won’t get pre orders for the Air till after the 4th. I’ll guess pre orders the 15th with deliveries the 22nd.

 

[jav6454]

I have a more thorough explanation of my thoughts and opinions on why I’m frustrated with the product a few posts up. When I criticize I generally try to give a detailed opinion, although sometimes those posts are separated out between gut reaction and deeper dive.

Also just want to say that you continuing to reference sales makes no sense. There has not been a single sale of this product with the lineup in the state that it’s in today.

As of right now with the new revision, yes you are right. However, under the old revision under an M1, it excelled to the point Apple mentioned it.

Back then people were also questioning the device. And yet it survived and Apple's quote on it seems to not made people realize that the device has a purpose and backing from either consumers or B2B. Either way, we know Apple is not keen on keeping devices that don't sell. Mind you this model was in between the MBA and the 14/16 MBPs.

 

[Tagbert]

Because I think there is a market for a machine more capable than the Air, but cheaper than the Pro.

Yes, but that model is not ready, yet. This 13” MBP is a placeholder.

 

[sherwinzadeh]

The worst value-wise purchase in Apple's Mac (laptop) lineup.

Apple said the entry-level MacBook Pro is their 2nd most popular notebook computer. My guess is that businesses probably buy this for their employees over the Air because it's "Pro". It still has the TouchBar so IT departments don't have to support different kind of devices.

 

[steve217]

As of right now with the new revision, yes you are right. However, under the old revision under an M1, it excelled to the point Apple mentioned it.

Back then people were also questioning the device. And yet it survived and Apple's quote on it seems to not made people realize that the device has a purpose and backing from either consumers or B2B. Either way, we know Apple is not keen on keeping devices that don't sell. Mind you this model was in between the MBA and the 14/16 MBPs.

You've been doing heroic work fighting on the "MBP 13" M2" front. I wish you all strength.

I've been fighting the "8GB M1's are worthless" battle myself.

My man Sancho says we're wasting our time.

 

[darngooddesign]

Say what you will about it, but this is the computer to get if you want to avoid long shipping times.

 

[sw1tcher]

Computing hasn't been the same since the revolutionary Touch Bar was invented.

Apple still trying to make "Fetch" happen by keeping this around 🤣

 

[DavidChoux]

So is this probably when the review embargo gets lifted too?

 

[jav6454]

You've been doing heroic work fighting on the "MBP 13" M2" front. I wish you all strength.

I've been fighting the "8GB M1's are worthless" battle myself.

My man Sancho says we're wasting our time.

Well, I won't delve too much into 8GB is worthless as there are people who keep 1 or 2 tabs open and that will serve them right.

That said, I personally believe that 8GB for memory is too little and Apple should offer 12GB as standard now with the M2 machines.