3.2 billion was the number the media put out to the public. We all know the media doesnt exaggerate.Your post to which I replied was overwhelmingly loaded with support for this deal based on financials… as if answering the "why?" question for shareholders. I acknowledged seeing your points but- if it's about those points- then Beats is a fit for any other company that wants those same financial-driven benefits and the most likely suitors beyond Apple are among those I named (because the other benefits beyond shareholder glee would have some application at a Google, Amazon and maybe Samsung & Sony too).
And I doubt that Google "does not worry much about" maximizing profits. As a public company they are legally obligated to maximize shareholder value. If one can buy such a statement, the same might be said for Apple. So if the Beats financials made great sense for a "not worry much about" company like Apple, it made sense for a "not worry much about" company like Google (or Microsoft or Samsung or Sony, etc).
As soon as the rumor was out- and probably long before- it was in play. And in the time between when the rumor first hatched and when the deal got done (which was probably long before a few weeks ago), there was plenty of time for other "bargain" hunting companies to step in and show some interest. If it was mostly a financials play- as you yourself mostly spun it- then Beats ownership could pad their own financials by entertaining bidders beyond just one.
In the last couple of days, it sounded like the deal was nearly derailed. If Beats wanted to sell- and they obviously did- their ONE buyer potentially backing out would point toward no sale. Best way to avoid such a scenario? Court more than one buyer. AND, whatever happened there (to nearly derail it), ended up apparently costing $200M which is not chump change for Beats. Perhaps another buyer would have coughed up that extra… or more?
Is it me, or is that picture *really* weird. Must be the wide angle or something but Tim Cook's head looks too small for his regular body and x-large shoulder, and Eddie Cue's shirt is two sizes too small.
/photographer
//can't help it
Dre made the best deal of his life, Apple one of their worst.
Can you explain how beats music is trash?
Just no beats logos on my apple stuffs, please!
Dre made the best deal of his life, Apple one of their worst.
I guess the premature acknowledgement cost them about $200m.
This is just stuff you made up. In reality you have no clue of the corporate culture or like mindedness of any of their previous acquisitions.
It is pretty hard to swallow your like mindedness argument as it simply sounds like more coded racism. From everything we know at this point they seem extremely like minded.
And to think that I thought my sarcasm too obvious.
So as a stockholder, if Apple told you they could invest a chunk of their available cash and get an 8%-12% return annually on it, would that make you happy or sad? Realize money sitting around for money's sake is not getting you more than 1% a year.
The whatsapp deal is unjustifiable and stupid. This deal is not only fiscally responsible and a money maker, it is a great value. This deal adds MORE value to your already undervalued apple stock. If you were analyzing this all correctly you would be buying as much apple stock as you could afford right now.
Whatsapp has a few hundred million in revenue a year, if that. Beats is on pace for 1.5 billion dollars in revenue this year. Nest, which sold for almost the same price as beats does about 300-350 million dollars in revenue. It is possible Beats could generate nearly as much profit this year as Nest generates revenue, and they sold for the same price.
There are other reasons to buy a business than profitability, but through time that has been the best and most successful reason. Buying companies that don't make money are huge risks. This Beats deal is the antithesis of that. The profits beats makes will recoup the price of the acquisition in ten to fifteen years with no additional growth and no synergy. The streaming service, Iovine, Dre, they all essentially were gotten for free because Beats headphones will pay for all of it on its own.
There is no way for whatsapp to recoup nineteen billion dollars, ever.
Idk just ask yourself what type of person beats headphones are marketed to and ask yourself if that fits with Apple's classy brand. Do a lot of highly educated people wear beats headphones?
Beats electronics has 60% of the headphone market. 60%!!!
Am I to believe that 60% of the people who buy headphones are ghetto? Or is it more likely you are just a misinformed, narrow minded person who will overlook actual facts to your own beliefs?
Or they can learn from Apple's mistakes...
Because so many kids visit this page.
http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/
It was obvious. Unfortunately for you though, your "sarcasm" was in fact, something you really should be doing.![]()
Yeah, but that's only in U.S. In Europe that is not the case.
Europeans are not also so into Hip Hop music and so bass oriented Beats are horrible for more dynamic sounding traditonal music.
Beats electronics has 60% of the headphone market. 60%!!!
Am I to believe that 60% of the people who buy headphones are ghetto? Or is it more likely you are just a misinformed, narrow minded person who will overlook actual facts to your own beliefs?
check out this girl from london using a macbook and beats while making eminem covers:
... and i'm not from europe- only been there once.. but if you're saying europeans aren't into hip hop or especially bass oriented music then i think you're out of touch.
MacRumors is now MacRacists. I mean stormfront has less hate for black people than MacRumors.
It does make sense for Apple. As I've said before, they need a streaming solution that has room for growth and influential industry personnel to secure rights and deals. That they've acquired a popular (note I didn't say good) high-margin headphone and dock manufacturer is by the by, but ultimately will bring its own fruits in time and is a great fit for Apple's own high-margin and high-design products.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the main problem with streaming is the low royalty payments. If they can be the first to properly compensate artists, they'll flock to Beats Audio. It's a huge deal if they can do that. We covered it at university and the MU in the UK are forever beating the drum about insufficient royalties from streams. That has to be their aim and competitive edge. It'd shake the industry up anew.
Yeah, but that's only in U.S. In Europe that is not the case.
Europeans are not also so into Hip Hop music and so bass oriented Beats are horrible for more dynamic sounding traditonal music.
What are the doctorates doing vs the high school grads? Steve jobs was a high school grad from the US. Dont knock it.
Steve Jobs doesn't have a doctorate and his tech company makes more than any German tech company. So maybe they should start hiring high school grads in your country ehh?