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In the US store there are no unlocked phones, only ones connected to T-Mobile as "contract free."

Would a T-Mobile phone that is "Contract Free" be unlocked and fully usable (i.e. all frequencies) on AT&T?

My wife's corporate discount makes AT&T a better deal for data plans.
 
Good to see the point of the protruding lens was for additional stick on lenses... Oh, nope. But it has optical stabilisation... Nope, not on one model. At least the phone is waterproof? Shockproof? Nope. Sapphire screen? Nope. Longer lasting battery? Nope, not on the 4.7. So the 4.7 is essentially a 5S with a bigger screen? ...yup. Oh, it's thinner, great, everyone was desperate for thinner!

Lucky those leaks and hideous antenna bands were all wrong... "But they'll serve a purpose, wait and see!"...

Nope.
 
That's still pretty crappy battery life. Not sure why apple can't put larger batteries in their devices...

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Typical apple move


So sick of ********* commentary from people who just like to throw negativity over anything they don't understand. If there's some way you're having trouble with this, you need to maybe seek some help. It's a PHONE.
 
I think they should fire Johnny Ive.

I mean a Fisher Price Watch

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and THIS

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Really?

Please let this be a bad dream.
 
...the 4.7-inch iPhone 6 features a 1334 x 750 display at 326 pixels-per-inch while the iPhone 6 Plus features a 1920 x 1080 display at 401 ppi. The iPhone 6 is said to have more than 1 million pixels, while the iPhone 6 Plus is said to have 2 million pixels.

"Is said to"? No, if you trust the resolution specs Apple is giving you, you can literally calculate it from that. The iPhone 6 does have slightly over 1 million pixels, and the 6 Plus slightly over 2 million.
 
This was revolutionary for apple. Tying the watch to the phone, and the phone to the computer. means they will own those who buy into their ecosystem. To really enjoy IOS8, you need a mac computer for the handoff features. To use the watch, you need the phone. Who would want an iPhone with a windows computer now?;)

And I will be buying the phone, but not the watch....yet.
 
I think it's the excitement only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain.

Get busy living or get busy dying....

The former happens when you stop making tech & the web the center of your life.
 
I am buying the iPhone 6 Plus 128GB no contract version for t-mobile.

The thing I am worried about is I dont need it at all but I am still going to buy it. My iPhone 5S works great and looks like new.

How do I control this or am I forever hypnotized?

When the apple watch comes out again I will buy that too.

5S on T-Mobile here. If I graduate from the 5S anytime soon, I'm more likely to get the HTC One M8 with Windows than I am the iPhone 6. It's coming to us in the fall.
 
Show me so I can be corrected

You are reading the chart wrong. What you see is not comparing the carriers.. it's saying those carriers carry these phones but the feature list is comparing between the 6, 6+, 5S, 5C.
 
In the US store there are no unlocked phones, only ones connected to T-Mobile as "contract free."

Would a T-Mobile phone that is "Contract Free" be unlocked and fully usable (i.e. all frequencies) on AT&T?

My wife's corporate discount makes AT&T a better deal for data plans.

Well that sucks. Is there any way to purchase one from AT&T that doesn't involve enrolling in their NEXT plan or further extending the contract?
 
... hideous antenna bands ... they'll serve a purpose, wait and see!...Nope.

YUP, those hideous bands are actually an activated flotation device for when you drop your 6 in the toilet. The 6 will always hit the sludge face side up - hence waterproof.
 
It's not the be all and end all, but it does matter. You could argue that apple could have gone with a 5MP amazing camera with 1.8 aperture, but ultimately as good as the pictures would be, it'd still be small.

And it's not quite the same as the mhz myth, that just seems to be something that's quoted a lot. I'm not even arguing for a 20MP phone camera, but an improvement would be appreciated.

Case in point - Cook said that you rarely see point and shoot cameras out there. That's more out of convenience than anything else. When I go on holiday in about a month's time I'll be taking a camera too.

MP is not the be all and end all, especially with such a small lens.

It's like the MHz myth of old - just because a CPU has a higher clock speed doesn't necessarily mean it's actually faster (compare, AMD vs Intel CPUs, clock for clock).

As you increase the number of pixels in the the camera's sensors you eventually reach a limit where going higher just gets you more noise. Without the lens in front to back it up it's pretty pointless. What you can do, however, is improve the sensor itself, which is what has been happening steadily as these sorts of cameras have become the dominant way we all take pictures (non-professionally).

That's not to say there's no market for increasing the sensor elements, but you need the rest of the device to take advantage of it - primarily the optical components.
 
So the decision is: Do I go with the inferior crippled iPhone 6 or the too expensive iPhone 6 Plus? hmmm, didn't this guy learn from the 5C disaster? One of the keys to the iPhone success was the simplicity of one device. Good thing Steve left Tim Cook a powerhouse of a company and it can survive **** like this. ******* YOU Tim Cook.

The 5c still outsold pretty much all android handsets in the us.

But I guess reality should not get in your way.
 
Chasing the potential Android/Windows converts and iPhoners wanting a larger screen would be the most prudent avenue to those profits. 4" phoners, just like 17" laptoppers, are not really Apple's focus. But I truly do hope you find something that satisfies you. I do feel bad for the small phone people getting left behind.

Way more people want/currently own reasonably sized iPhones, than want 17" laptops, that isn't a fair comparison. Apple are removing the upgrade option from millions of customers, this isn't a smart move.

When you combine this with minuscule unusable storage in the standard model, Apple seem to be making some odd choices lately.

I am a big Apple fan and I recommend iPhones to everyone I know, but this is getting increasingly difficult, they just don't offer enough for the price.
 
Somebody knows whether they ship unlocked phone on launch day?

I don't think Apple has shipped the unlocked iPhones on launch day, at least not in the US. You have to buy one with a SIM for one of the 4 cell-phone operators.

If you go to the Apple store right now at look at the iPhone 6, it only offers "contract or carrier financing" for AT&T, Verizon, or Sprint, or "Contract Free" for T-Mobile.

If you look at the same page for an iPhone 5S, you can buy a SIM-free phone. It is right next to the T-Mobile phone, and it says that both are "unlocked".

So, perhaps you can just buy a T-mobile phone and never activate it on T-mobile. You'll have to put the old SIM into the new phone, and it will have to be compatible. Otherwise, you'll have to buy a SIM from the carrier.
 
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The building outside

yes, I'll be buying the 6 for the technology and the 6 plus is just to big for my purposes.
Does anyone have any info about the white wrapped building? I might have missed the story.
 
I want a bigger screen, I want more pixels to fill that screen, I want a bigger battery, I want a faster processor, I'm okay with it doing Pay stuff...but why is it still only 8MP??

I don't need the 40+ from Nokia, or even the 20 from Sony, but even 12 would have been a nice improvement. But thank goodness the front camera now lets in more light. Oh and extra slo-mo. Other phones can do 4K.

It's not a deal breaker - I need a new phone, but still disappointed that the only practical change to the camera is that it sticks out more.

That isn't the only change to the camera. Plus megapixels mean little. You should not be comparing cameras based on megapixels.
 
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