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The 10.5.8 requirement for OS X on all these new devices is quite disappointing. Why are they supporting XP (released in 2001), but not OS X Tiger (Released in 2005)?



Yea, that is b.s. I'm having to use my 2005 Powerbook running Leopard to sync my iPhone 4. My 2007 MPB still runs Tiger and can't really be updated due to my dependency on certain applications that won't run on the newer OS X versions.
 
Does the new Nano even have coverflow? And why do we have to pinch-rotate the screen instead of having it does it automatically? The whole thing turns very archaic just for the sake of a touch screen.

-Clip, depending on where you clip it + need of a lock screen button.
-No space for accelerometer or a lock screen button.
 
Yeah, I suspect if I were to buy the new nano I'd actually be annoyed it didn't have a accelerometer or whatever my nano and iphone use to know they're being rotated. What's even wierder is that I don't like it on my nano (cause I don't want to use coverflow and I hate it automatically going to that anytime I move it) but I think on this device it would be a lot more important (with size and shape of it I am betting it will be hard to keep it one side up and would be nice if it just kept up with you on which way you were holding it at the moment).

In my opinion, this is the largest drawback of the new nano and something I'd like to see them put back in.

Well, with an accelerometer, Apple would need to add a screen lock switch (given the menu system, a screen lock button on the home page makes no sense) so I can understand why Apple has the nano use pinch-rotation. EDIT: It's still got shake to shuffle, so it most likely has an accelerometer.

At any rate, the death of the click wheel in the nano disappoints me; it's my favorite navigation means for an MP3 player. After 8 years, I've gotten to the point where I can navigate the menus on the blind.
 
At any rate, the death of the click wheel in the nano disappoints me; it's my favorite navigation means for an MP3 player. After 8 years, I've gotten to the point where I can navigate the menus on the blind.

Ah, I never got into the clickwheel. It was definitely nice having physical buttons (over a touch screen) when walking but I always found it annoyign cause I never got to the point of being able to navigate it without feeling around to figure out what orientation my ipod was in my pocket.

I was so in love with the remote when I got my iphone. Even more so when it started supporting rewinding too (The one advantage my nano had control wise over the iphone). Just easier to reach up to the remote (and easier to figure out what button is what) than to feel around in my pocket to find my ipod and then figure out what orientation it is to figure out which one is fast forward/rewind. And I was ecstatic when I found my new ipod (Fifth gen) supported the same thing.
 
I was so in love with the remote when I got my iphone. Even more so when it started supporting rewinding too (The one advantage my nano had control wise over the iphone). Just easier to reach up to the remote (and easier to figure out what button is what) than to feel around in my pocket to find my ipod and then figure out what orientation it is to figure out which one is fast forward/rewind. And I was ecstatic when I found my new ipod (Fifth gen) supported the same thing.

The remote is almost a solution to the lack of tactile buttons for me, but whenever I lost the damn headphones, I lost damn tactile buttons, and that really irritated me. >.>"
 
I was interested in the shuffle for the gym, but the USB connector really bums me out. Why couldn't they just have added a regular mini or micro usb connection to the shuffle?

I've got lots of mini/micro usb cables. I'd be able to keep them at work, in my backpack, and connected to my mac mini at home. This way, if I ever forget to charge the shuffle, I can just charge it at work or home w/ a $1 usb cable.

I've got no idea how much this 3.5mm/usb cable costs (or where to get it.) However, I bet it's not nearly as inexpensive or ubiquitous as the micro and mini usb cables.
 
Dock Connector?

My only potential complaint is whether my Sony CDX-GT630UI car stereo with the USB iPod connection will properly recognize the device and use the car stereo's controls to navigate around the player. I know that it works with my 3G and 4G iPod nanos and 120 GB 6.5G iPod classic....

Are you talking about the compatibility of your AUX to the iPod's 30-pin dock connector?
I was wondering if the new iPod Touch's 30-pin dock connector would still be compatible with my BOSE sound dock. I recently had the sound dock repaired so the pin connector on the sound dock would charge the more recent iPods like the 4th generation iPod Nano and later as well as the iPod Touch 2nd generation and later. Is the new iPod Touch still the same as previous iPod Touch 2nd and 3rd generation dock connectors?
 
no, you can only surf the internet as fast the internet connection. The higher speeds only help if you have that fast of an internet connection. for example, most people have a 3-20mbps connection. for these people, wireless G is more than enough. you won't get any faster speeds with N because your internet is still the same speed. the only thing that might improve is range. but for the better range, you need a N router too.

Don't forget that streaming music, video, or whatever to other computers on the local network will be faster irregardless of what the internet connection is doing or even being used.
 
my 2¢

Shuffle - what the shuffle should have been the last time around
Nano - what the shuffle should be this time around
Touch - awesome update with the notable exception of the 1990s cell phone quality camera and the scratch attracting shiny metal back that just won't die.

Missing - a real successor to the nano and an update to the classic

There are some other gaps in Apple's lineup, as well:

Apple offers the Shuffle, 2GB @ $49 and the Nano, 8GB @ $149, but nothing in between anymore. What about a 4GB offering?

And what is with the jump from 8GB @ $229 to 32GB @ $299 on the iPod Touch? Why not 16GB as the base model? Who wouldn't save to spend an extra $70 to upgrade from 8GB to 32GB? Either Apple should have price the 8GB entry model lower ($199 max) or else bumped the capacity to 16GB.
 
Agreed. I've got my 16GB 4th gen nano, which IMO is slightly better than the 5th gen, and is leagues above the 6th for my usage.

Ditto. Now all I need to decide before December is whether to pay for AppleCare for my Nano.
 
The 10.5.8 requirement for OS X on all these new devices is quite disappointing. Why are they supporting XP (released in 2001), but not OS X Tiger (Released in 2005)?

I'm guessing because there are more XP users than Tiger [and below.]

Apple has a cheap price for upgrading operating systems, so people just go straight for the update.

Windows on the other hand... :\
 
Contacts?

One question: where is the Contacts app? I don't see it! The iPhone doesn't have one too right? Well, forgive my noobishness, but where do you see/edit contacts on an iphone?
 
I think a lot of people are missing the point of the changes.

Nano: I have a nano with video and I never use it. Never. I don't record video with it. I don't watch movies on it. Why not, well...I've an iphone for that. My Nano is for the gym. And that, my friends, is likely the whole big point. Why bother keeping video on the Nano if it's almost never used? If recording video/watching movies and such is done on phones and iPod touches?

Essentially, Apple cleared the slate with the nano and shuffle, making them dedicated music (and anything else you can listen to) players. Let's face it. Most people want either/or. Either a phone/tablet that they can watch movies on, surf the internet on, play games on (while maybe listening to music) OR a little device they can clip to their pocket and listen to music (or whatever) while walking, exercising, etc. The Shuffle is the cheap and simple one that those on a tight budget can afford. The Nano is the fancy one that offers radio, help with your workout, etc.

This, I think, is Apple's logic for the changes in the Nano. It really is a fancy shuffle, the right size and ease for those using it to exercise vs. a Touch, for those who want to do other things.

I do not know if this is a wise or smart move. But it does make both Shuffle and Nano perfect for people exercising or on the go, or doing something else with hands and eyes. People who just want to listen to music, radio or podcasts. :cool:

IMO, Apple should have just discontinued the shuffle and lowered the price point on the new Nano, if they want to pursue all touch-based iPods. The price difference between the two is too large and [the Nano is too expensive. T]hey both seem to target the same consumers. Not a smart move. The shuffle just seems out of place now (even though I like it better than the new Nano for its general purpose).
 
As a watch, the Nano looks pretty fugly.

One man's ugly is a teenager's favorite new accessory. Just ask skinny jeans, hollister, DC Shoes, silly bandz, and lip rings.

Just ask Penny Gadget…

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Hers even had Face Time!
 
Weak Camera

The rear camera is the biggest thing I was hoping for and I am somewhat disappointed. I guess A camera is better than NO camera, but I was hoping to lose the pocket camera and use the iPod Touch for some decent photos.

I don't have the money for an iPhone 4 though, so I will probably end up buying the new touch anyways. Hey at least it has a mic now and you can make calls over wifi.

You're killing me Steve!!!!
 
This is more about the keynote in general, and if what I am about to say has been mentioned, I apologize.

Did anyone notice that Steve Jobs said that the HDR feature would be coming to iPad? Hint at future iPad camera I believe. ;)

7" iPad with webcam and perhaps rear-facing camera, coming in November?.;)
 
Added Microphone Makes iPod Touch a "wifi only" iPhone

Wow! I'm really craving a new iPod Touch. According to Apple's tech specs, it now has a microphone:

Input and output

30-pin dock connector
3.5-mm stereo headphone minijack
Built-in speaker
Microphone


Which is expected to go along with the video. Take a look at some of the pictures on the gallery page and you'll see the hole for the microphone on the edge that has the doc connector, just to the left of the doc connector. (The other side of the doc connector than the head phone jack.)

Now it is truly is a wifi only iPhone. With a MiFi mobile hotspot and Skype (or a similar service), this might also be an alternative to a cell phone.
 
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