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So many complaints until 2-3 years later, Apple reports a huge uptick in card users and thus revenue from their Services segment. Same with everything else they announced today.
 
Word! I put every single purchase I can on different credit cards to maximize my point earning. I never carry a balance.



Plus it's my bank account that would get drained if there's fraudulent activity on the debit card. Even if it gets restored eventually what a hassle that would be. No thank you.
Indeed. Credit cards are all upside if used responsibly. Obviously, they can be financially crushing if used irresponsibly.
 
Pretty sad that some need credit cards explained to them and how to use them. It’s not a bad 2 percent card but it’s limited with the one percent for the physical card and doesn’t stand out.

Amex or chase is still way better than this. Surprised Apple didn’t go up to 5 percent on Apple store purchases and 4 percent Apple Pay. I’d probably bite then or at least try to use Apple Pay once in awhile.
 
Apple’s sales outside the US continue to stall. Wonder how much of that is influenced by the fact pretty much every service Apple announces these days to compliement it’s premium/over priced hardware is exclusive to the US for months/years.

Oh FFS. Have you used Apple Pay in Europe? Works well, doesn't it? Pretty much every business (many more than in the US) you can just wave your Apple Watch over a sensor and pay.

The physical card is NOT NECESSARY outside the US. It's launching in the US as a stopgap until the US gets its act together as much as the rest of the world.

And if it takes a year to move from the US onward, so what? In five years what difference will it make? You have to be a particularly shortsighted and dimwitted human being to imagine that the entirety of human life will be encompassed by 2019. Apple has to start somewhere, and once that start has some data behind it, it's that much easier to negotiate with Swedish magazines and Thai TV providers and so on.
 
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Just saying, the citi doublecash card is no annual fee and 2% everywhere, regardless of if you pay with apple pay (2% on this apple card) or without apple pay (only 1% on this apple card). It really is a bad credit card and to make it even worse, no sign up bonus. But we all know everyone will get it 'cuz apple'. Apple and goldman sachs aren't going to keep your data any more private and secure than citibank or bofa or any of the other credit card companies.
 
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What always blows my mind is why Americans use credit card. Its much easier to use debit. Why would you ever want to pay banks fees?

Many people pay the balance each month and don't carry credit card balances, but they prefer to get points or cash back by using the credit card. You get nothing if you pay by debit.
 
Awesome. Can’t wait to get it. I’m sure many places will still take the physical card, even without a signature on it. Just have ID with you and make sure the names match.
Most credit card companies are phasing out the signature requirement anyway, and having ID has never been a part of most credit card end user agreements. Merchants can ask for your ID, but if you refuse they still have to accept the card.
 
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US only. Can‘t wait for it to launch in Germany in 2025.
You can imagine my excitement when I started. However, within me something was telling me, “not going to happen in Germany yet”, and truly I was disappointed...NOT! Much as I enjoyed having something to write about (Germany’s financial system) in my Innovation Economics research paper I absolutely abhor this!
 
I am still a little confused with the Goldman choice... Not so much because people think they are evil, but because they don't really have much experience in the commercial bank space. Before they started that loan service this past year they were all Investment bank for institutional investors and asset management for high wealth individuals.... I wonder why Apple didn't go with someone like Citi, or Chase, etc... that have been doing credit cards and commercial banking for ages.. or with Barclays who they already had a relationship with.
 
What always blows my mind is why Americans use credit card. Its much easier to use debit. Why would you ever want to pay banks fees?

I'm an American who exclusively uses credit cards. I don't pay fees; instead I get paid to use my cards through rewards. Balances are always paid in full every month unless I'm on a 0% APR promo. I buy what I can afford but use a credit card for the rewards, extended warranties, and purchase protection.
 
This I like, for the additional security. However, now Apple's into the financial services business, making them look more and more like a big conglomerate, and less like a tech company. Too much diversification is never a good thing.
 
This is the most exciting announcement today. In Europe, every card is chipped with NFC, and has been for years. It's about time that we stop printing the credit card numbers, so that everyone can see it and steal it. Everything should be chip only, no magnetic stripe, and if there's a fixed number, it should be kept secret. This is the first Apple product I'm going to buy this year, perhaps even before the new iMac. I'm tired that every single year my cards get compromised, and a criminal investigation is launched, and I receive a new card, which is inevitably hacked again.
 
It is precisely the signature requirement for purchases that was dropped a year ago in the US (and it was not replaced by a PIN like everywhere else), and as a result so will the signature on cards be eventually I guess.


That info -- i.e. removal of signature requirement -- clearly has not filtered down to the folks behind their point of sales systems. In fact, I've yet to find ONE yet that did not require signature. Even in cases where I have used a "real" chip-and-pin credit card -- i.e. PIN-priority, not signature -- some merchants *still* insisted that I sign (sigh). Most don't require the signature after successful PIN authentication, but some do, and even for paltry amounts.
 
This I like, for the additional security. However, now Apple's into the financial services business, making them look more and more like a big conglomerate, and less like a tech company. Too much diversification is never a good thing.

They need to do something to offset slumping phone sales... Because god forbid they were to innovate or lower prices.
 
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Or never! I’m still waiting for iTunes Radio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes_Radio

"On January 15, 2016, Apple announced that effective January 28, 2016, iTunes Radio stations, barring Beats 1, will only be accessible by Apple Music subscribers. On January 29, 2016, the iTunes Radio channel was automatically removed from Apple TV devices (3rd Generation and earlier)."
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US Only availability. Worldwide acceptance since it’s a mastercard.

Ah, easy. I just move to the US for the Card and then move back.
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I thought Europe has already stuff like this figured out.

Don't know about the rest of Europe but Germany is definitely lacking far behind the US when it comes to banking!
 
This card actually sounds pretty good. 3% cash back on purchases from Apple and 2% everywhere else assuming I’m understanding correctly. No annual fees or international fees. This could be my new go to instead of my Citi DoubleCash Card.

Edit: post below mine says it’s 2% if using Apple Pay and 1% if using the physical card.

I was hoping this will be an alternative option to my Citi DoubleCash credit card but once they said it's just 1% for using the physical card, that eliminated that prospect for sure. Plus, it doesn't look like you can even use it for making purchases online where you have to input your credit card number, CCV, and expiration date.
 
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Everything wrong with the current direction of Apple is perfectly encapsulated in this product - an Apple credit card.

Hear that sound? It’s the sound of Steve Jobs rolling in his grave.

Oh please. You have no idea what Steve would / wouldn’t do.

People change. Things change. They probably thought a cell phone was a weird idea too at 1 point.
 
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