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Now see I am debating on whether to order from Amazon.com or Apple.com. Apple ships by Fed-Ex and they always come in the afternoon and I would miss the delivery. So I have a chance of missing it and having it delivered Monday. That is not good for me. If I choose Amazon.com they use UPS and I get it at 10:30 am like clockwork, but the sad thing is Amazon.com has not caught up with the news yet. Will they deliver on Friday as well?

Decisions decisions... oh what to do?
 
I thought it was 6GB in the Keynote also....

I will do screen shot before and after friday.

I thought it was 6GB also,
I think I heard that SL will count bits different (1000 = 1MB rather than 1024)
maybe this is to reflect that change so that people don't freak out after they install and do a free space check. (and it makes it look better in their ads I guess)
 
Just looking over the wonderful SL pages and came across this. Didn't it use to say 6GB ?

Yes I remember it did, I guess the final figure is 7GB - the difference might not be that big of course, could be a rounding to nearest GB thing. Of course, what is on the site now is no longer speculative - it represents what we are actually going to receive.

Hope it's good.
 
Looks like UTD orders will not ship until September :mad:

Apple: How may I help you today?
Me: Hi there, When will my Snow Leopard Up-To-Date disk be shipped?
Apple: Thank you for asking.
Apple: Have you already checked the order status page of your account to view this information?
Me: It says September, but the main Apple store says 28 August.
Apple: Yes orders placed before today will keep there original ship date. So your order will ship in September. You may contact our Customer Service team for further assistance as well with your shipping.

Keep in mind that the sale people that answer the phones at Apple are just that sales people. They are usually the last to know anything and probably are in a two story building in the middle of Kansas. I highly doubt UTD orders placed today will go out any sooner than ones placed last month. Typically the UTD discs are mailed out by an separate fulfillment company, not the Apple warehouse (which is really Ingram Micro, not Apple).

If Apple history is anything the UTD disks will not ship until NEXT Monday or later. There is only a small window between the time s/w goes GM to shipping. Apple's priority is getting the retail and "slip-in" copies reproduced first. Then the UTD are made and shipped.
 
Well, I went through with the order for the Up To Date program and have just checked my online banking ... and £7.95 has been debited, so it's gone through fine.

Obviously the Serial Number qualified it. Sorted.
 
If I can't do a clean install from my SL disk, I guess I'll just do a clean install with my Leopard disk and then immediately do a SL upgrade. It's an extra step but I like to do clean installs every once in a while.
 
I fail to understand why does Apple not offer an standalone SL install.

Not everybody needs and wants their iLive stuff. :mad:

Let me help you to understand better. Apple is running a business and wants to build marketshare for ALL their products. Giving you the option to buy SL without iWork results in lost sale of iWork.
 
Stuffradio -- Crashing that often is Most likely Hardware

Was the boot time sped up even more in Snow Leopard? One thing, if anything that blew me away from using Mac for the first time (10.5 and I think 10.4.11 which was the first version I used on a personal Mac computer) was that it started really quickly.

If there is anything that would make me recommend a Mac to anyone, that would be it. I haven't noticed tons of stability that everyone boasts, all I do is browse the web with Safari and use XCode 3.1 for coding iPhone apps. I use my Mac almost every day for those things, so it's not that I'm just not using it enough.

So yeah, my Mac crashes a lot more than my Windows computer, but the speed of the boot time is really good. I'm not sure if Safari 4 is what's causing the crashes, but it's possible... it's just like on Windows. The third party software decreases peoples perception of an OS because it's usually third party people that cause the crashing and not the OS developer themselves.

Stuffradio: Crashing often is not normal. I own two macs one is a laptop and I run it very hard from Graphics design, Web Dev, Video editing and playing world of Warcraft and sooo much more and have not had a crash for at least 6 months or longer. I really do not keep track but I know I am NOT having them.

I feel your problem could be related to bad RAM as this type of behavior is quite common with bad RAM. Apps generally do not crash your whole system so it tells me that something is seriously. Take it in get it checked! Good luck! :)
 
Let me help you to understand better. Apple is running a business and wants to build marketshare for ALL their products. Giving you the option to buy SL without iWork results in lost sale of iWork.
The value added of iLife and iWork doesn't guarantee they will be used though. I haven't used iPhoto since May and even then it was an accidental opening.

Though it'll make it easy as pie for them to claim insane marketshare from those poor Tiger users.

My MacBook still has that waking issue too under 10.5.8.
 
Sorry, friend. Did you read the thumbnail? Delivers ON Aug. 28. Apple ships via FedEx Priority overnight. Meaning Apple will ship Pre-Orders on Aug. 27th for delivery on the release date of Aug. 28th. It has always been like this. iLife forever, and Mac OS X forever. I remember when I order my Macbook Pro April 2008, took 3 days. It was a build to order, but as soon as it was ready to ship, I had it the next morning.

Do you know if this is the case for the Up-To-Date orders too? Mine still says "September"...
 
I think I heard that SL will count bits different (1000 = 1MB rather than 1024)

I heard this also. No ones mentioned it so i thoguht i was dreaming. I really hope this is true. So many people ask me "WHYZ IZ MY HARD DRIVE SAYZ 242 GB INSTEADZ OF 250 GB"
 
Has this really been confirmed? Is the only way for clean install [to a fresh hard drive] to first install Leopard and then install SL after wiping HD after booting from the DVD?

Apple doesn't need to announce this. They've made it quite clear that it requires Leopard to use the $29 SL disc. That's on YOU if you want to install a new hard drive on your computer. In this situation you must buy the boxed set. If you think that's wrong then buy the $29 disc and find out yourself and then try to take back open software to Apple.
 
Just a quick question if anyone knows the answer. Does the pre-order option include the discount that Apple mentioned for people who bought their machines after June 8, 2009?

I can't seem to find it.
 
If I can't do a clean install from my SL disk, I guess I'll just do a clean install with my Leopard disk and then immediately do a SL upgrade. It's an extra step but I like to do clean installs every once in a while.

You might be able to load off the disc, have it recognize you have Leopard, and then erase your HDD. It should see that you had Leopard.
 
Up-To-Date version question.

Will I be able to use the UTD version to upgrade my other Mac Systems? or just that particular model?

If so, I still need to buy a regular copy to install on my other machine and it would not make sense to buy the UTD for $10, right?
 
Will I be able to use the UTD version to upgrade my other Mac Systems? or just that particular model?

If so, I still need to buy a regular copy to install on my other machine and it would not make sense to buy the UTD for $10, right?

Legally, no, you should buy a UTD and a copy for each other system you own.
 
oh...

Legally, no, you should buy a UTD and a copy for each other system you own.

That's right, you are supposed to buy a copy for each system you install it on, unless you buy the Family-Pack Upgrade. forgot about that.

You know how the system install disks that ship with your computer do not install on other system models, I'm guessing that the UTD will have those same limitations and will be a different build than the general upgrade $29 version. right?
 
Will I be able to use the UTD version to upgrade my other Mac Systems? or just that particular model?

If so, I still need to buy a regular copy to install on my other machine and it would not make sense to buy the UTD for $10, right?

The UTD version is for the machine you ordered, which was new enough to qualify for the free+shipping update. To install that on another Mac would be wrong. It might not even work... though I have not read anywhere if the UTD discs will be version specific...

So yes, order another one at $29 for your other Mac. Either way, if you have 2 Macs, order 2 copies. If you have more than that, look at a Family Pack.

I ordered one UTD, and one at $29. I have two Macs, so it all works out.
 
That's right, you are supposed to buy a copy for each system you install it on. forgot about that.

You know how the system install disks that ship with your computer do not install on other system models, I'm guessing that the UTD will have those same limitations and will be a different build than the general upgrade $29 version. right?

I'm guessing UTD will be retail, I can't imagine them taking the time to ship each person a DVD for the type of system they have. Then again, who really knows?
 
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